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McDermott Co-Sponsors Legislation to Reinstate the Draft (Democrats, not Republicans!)
United States Congressman Jim McDermott, Democrat - Washington State ^ | January 2003 | Jim McDermott

Posted on 09/22/2004 1:54:46 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom

McDermott Co-Sponsors Legislation to Reinstate the Draft

January 7, 2003 - For Immediate Release

Washington, DC-- Congressman Jim McDermott (Democrat) has announced his co-sponsorship of Congressman Charles Rangel's (Democrat) legislation to reinstate the military draft and other forms of national service. The bill would require Americans between 18 and 26 to serve two years in the military or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security.

The bill, HR 163, is intended to ensure that the burden of military service is not borne disproportionately by the poor and numbers of minority groups.

Congressman McDermott commented that "I believe that if those who are pushing for war knew that their children might be required to share the burden of that war, there might be a greater willingness to work toward peace and a diplomatic solution. If, despite our best efforts, we end up in armed conflict, then fairness dictates that the sons and daughters of all classes participate."

" I am pleased to be an original co-sponsor of Congressman Rangel's bill, McDermott continued. " If we need to re-instate the draft in order to make the Administration consider the chilling consequences of war, so be it. I hope this will make them realize how important a diplomatic solution really is. "

In underscoring the need for broad public discussion about committing troops to conflict, McDermott reiterated his view that it is time to consider a period of compulsory service for every young person in our country. "The draft ended thirty years ago, and since then the sense of obligation as the price of citizenship has faded," he said. I agree with Congressman Rangel that we need to find ways to share the sacrifices associated with committing our country to war, whether it's a campaign against illiteracy, poverty, hunger, or terrorism."

Congressman McDermott served as a Lieutenant Commander in the U.S. Navy Medical Corps at the Long Beach Naval Station in California from 1968 to 1970. Congressman Rangel served in the U.S. Army in Korea from 1948 to 1952.


TOPICS: Announcements; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: baghdadjim; democrats; draft; fearmongering; kerry; liars; mcdermott; selectiveservice
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It's the DEMOCRATS who sponsored legislation for a draft. How can Kerry accuse President Bush?

The mainstream media are partisan hacks, and Kerry an outrageous and dangerous liar.

Turn this one around and make them eat it!

1 posted on 09/22/2004 1:54:47 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom
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To: Enduring Freedom

Meanwhile, the headline at Drudge reads.....

Kerry: Draft Likely to Return Under Bush


2 posted on 09/22/2004 1:56:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: Enduring Freedom
Congressman McDermott commented that "I believe that if those who are pushing for war knew that their children might be required to share the burden of that war, there might be a greater willingness to work toward peace and a diplomatic solution. If, despite our best efforts, we end up in armed conflict, then fairness dictates that the sons and daughters of all classes participate."

I think this ploy is going to jump up and bite them in the a$$.

3 posted on 09/22/2004 1:57:28 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: CyberCowboy777

ping


4 posted on 09/22/2004 1:57:34 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Enduring Freedom
It's the DEMOCRATS who sponsored legislation for a draft. How can Kerry accuse President Bush?

Because the LSM won't point that fact out, so young people will assume it's the Bush administration that's behind it. Just another low down trick the Rats are using to get the young vote out for Kerry.

5 posted on 09/22/2004 1:59:34 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: Enduring Freedom

Yep, everyone should have to give their time to the government in the name of service. Communism I think it's called.


6 posted on 09/22/2004 1:59:44 PM PDT by tbird5
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To: cripplecreek
Meanwhile, the headline at Drudge reads..... Kerry: Draft Likely to Return Under Bush

Someone SEND THIS THREAD TO DRUDGE!!!!!!!!!!!

7 posted on 09/22/2004 2:00:56 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: ladtx

I would love to know who in congress has sons and daughters in the military. Somehow it wouldn't suprise me to find republicans only.


8 posted on 09/22/2004 2:01:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Yes... that's what we need. More draft dodgers off to Canada. They will need to make their memorial BIGGER!

Geesh. This rationale is just the type if idiocy I would expect from a lunatic liberal like McDermot.


9 posted on 09/22/2004 2:01:41 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Enduring Freedom

I think this way McDermott can say he voted for the draft before he voted against it.


10 posted on 09/22/2004 2:02:03 PM PDT by baraboolaw (We're from the government and we're here to save you.)
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To: AlaskaErik

This issue has the potential to grow ugly.

Perhaps we can kill it now with a 527 ad that stuffs it right back at the 'Rats.

On the record, and still on McDermott's website, the fact is that Democrats sponsored legislation, not Republicans.


11 posted on 09/22/2004 2:02:16 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Congressman Rangel served in the U.S. Army in Korea from 1948 to 1952.

Something is wrong with these dates No one seved 4 years in Korea unless he was captured befor the War started and was exchanged before it ended.


12 posted on 09/22/2004 2:02:54 PM PDT by snakeoil (A+Bert)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Sure. While they're at it, why don't they introduce legislation to require everyone over 65 be painted bright blue? Both would have the same chance of passage. *ssh*les.


13 posted on 09/22/2004 2:03:22 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Enduring Freedom

Rangel has been pushing for a draft since before the Iraq invasion.


14 posted on 09/22/2004 2:04:20 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: CyberCowboy777

Ping, please.


15 posted on 09/22/2004 2:04:20 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (God bless Senator Zell Miller.)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Bills HR 163 and S 89 have been introduced, prior to the War in Iraq by Charles Rangel (D-NY) and Ernest
Hollings (D-SC)respectively.
CO-Sponsors of HR 163:
ABERCROMBIE, NEIL - D, HI
BROWN, CORRINE - D FL
CHRISTENSEN, DONNA - D, VI
CLAY, WM. - D MO
CONYERS, JOHN - D, MI
CUMMINGS, ELIJAH - D, MD
HASTINGS, ALCIE - D, FL
JACKSON LEE, SHEILA - D, TX
LEWIS, JOHN - D, GA
MC DERMOTT, JIM - D, WA
MORAN, JAMES - D,VA
NORTON, ELEANOR HOLMES - D, DC
STARK, FORTNEY - D, CA
VALEZQUEZ, NYDIA D, NY

Maybe we need a good letter wrting campaign to media (national and local) and see if they will report the truth!
Rumsfeld has been against a draft from the beginning.


16 posted on 09/22/2004 2:04:31 PM PDT by pieces of time
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To: Enduring Freedom
It's the DEMOCRATS who sponsored legislation for a draft.

Recall that is primarily the dems who are blocking drilling in ANWR and “screaming” about dependence on foreign oil at the same time. It is the dems who were (some the more radical ones still are) trying sell the “bill of goods” that the war in Iraq was “for oil.”

Should anyone be surprised at the above facts?
17 posted on 09/22/2004 2:05:13 PM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: Enduring Freedom

Just sent this to Hannity!!!!!!


18 posted on 09/22/2004 2:05:46 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: pollywog

I sent it to him this morning after it was first on freerepublic. Around 12.


19 posted on 09/22/2004 2:05:48 PM PDT by Spackidagoosh
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To: pieces of time

Good research.

McDermott is PROUDLY displaying his sponsorship of this bill on his website.

The hypocrisy and shamelessness of the Democrats is absolutely breathtaking!


20 posted on 09/22/2004 2:06:05 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: pieces of time
BROWN, CORRINE - D FL
21 posted on 09/22/2004 2:07:12 PM PDT by Spackidagoosh
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To: Libertina

My sympathies.


22 posted on 09/22/2004 2:07:16 PM PDT by In veno, veritas
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To: snakeoil
Congressman Rangel served in the U.S. Army in Korea from 1948 to 1952.

He served in the US Army from 48-52 doesnt say when he was in Korea or what he actually did while there..

And even if it did...I would want to see actually records...& not done in MS fonts either

23 posted on 09/22/2004 2:07:56 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Enduring Freedom

This is a carefully calculated move on their part. They know that the MSM will carry it on their front pages and make it sound like it's Bush's idea, and the dummies will buy into it. It's all been scripted and is now being executed as part of their "October Surprise."


24 posted on 09/22/2004 2:08:30 PM PDT by SamiGirl
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To: pieces of time
Maybe we need a good letter wrting campaign to media (national and local) and see if they will report the truth!

Send it to dan blather and I'm sure he will do a full 60 Minutes program on this. < /sarcasm>

25 posted on 09/22/2004 2:09:44 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Charter member of the VRWC - and proud of it. - - - Hear BS on See BS.)
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To: pollywog
You might want to send this along with it...

Draft Fears Fueled by Inaccurate E-mails

Excerpts:

The bills are not being pushed. It's quite true that the two bills mentioned would require both men and women aged 18 through 25 to perform a two-year period of "national service," which incidentally could be either military or non-military service. But the bills are sponsored only by Democrats, and there's not the slightest evidence that the Bush administration is pushing for them, quietly or otherwise.

One bill is HR 163 , whose principle sponsor is Democratic Rep. Charles Rangel of New York. It has 14 co-sponsors, all of them Democrats in a Congress controlled by Republicans. The bill was dead on arrival: it sits in a House subcommittee with no hearings or votes scheduled and no action expected.

In fact, Rangel told FactCheck.org through his spokesman Emile Milne that even he isn't pushing for passage, let alone Bush (emphasis added):

Rep. Rangel: I'm not pushing this bill . It's up to the President to come to me when he needs it.

The identical Senate bill, S. 89 , introduced by Democratic Sen. Ernest Hollings, and also was DOA. Not one other senator has co-sponsored it. It also sits in committee with no action scheduled or expected.

Both bills in question were drawn up before the Iraq war started, mostly to make a political point. Rangel said he acted to highlight Democratic objections to use of military force against Saddam Hussein. He wrote , "I truly believe that decision-makers who support war would more readily feel the pain of conflict and appreciate the sacrifice of those on the front lines if their children were there, too."

26 posted on 09/22/2004 2:09:58 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: joesnuffy
Congressman Rangel served in the U.S. Army in Korea from 1948 to 1952.

27 posted on 09/22/2004 2:10:05 PM PDT by Spackidagoosh
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To: Enduring Freedom

Hastert should fast track this with immediate hearings and let the 'rats justify it before slam-dunking it.


28 posted on 09/22/2004 2:10:54 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Enduring Freedom

My idiot congresscritter has emerged from the sludge again!


29 posted on 09/22/2004 2:11:09 PM PDT by Clemenza (I LOVE Halliburton, SUVs and Assault Weapons. Any Questions?)
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To: Enduring Freedom
McDermott Co-Sponsors Legislation to Reinstate the Draft (Democrats, not Republicans!)

Looks like the Dems are still banking on Kerry.
Kerry, if elected, will probably need a draft for the 40,000 extra military personnel
that he's promised to deploy.
30 posted on 09/22/2004 2:12:03 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Enduring Freedom

We need to see some rapid response on this, and quick. Rove has been pretty good anticipating this kind of stuff.


31 posted on 09/22/2004 2:12:43 PM PDT by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: B Knotts

Can anyone get this to the campaign?


32 posted on 09/22/2004 2:13:49 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: Enduring Freedom

They're doing this so it looks like this is happening under Bush's watch. The Press won't report that it's two Dems...they'll just report there's legislation to restore the draft and kids will link that with Bush. That's the plan. And unfortunately, it will work.


33 posted on 09/22/2004 2:14:22 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: joesnuffy

It says in the Army ( in ) Korea from 1948 1952.
He probably served a 4 year hitch and I believe he was Artillery and might have only gotten 3 points a month. Infantry got 4. So 9 months 36 points and bug out back to the States. Artillery 3 x12 =36


34 posted on 09/22/2004 2:14:23 PM PDT by snakeoil (A+Bert)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Actually, I'll do that. Don't hold your breath to hear them report it though.


35 posted on 09/22/2004 2:14:53 PM PDT by pieces of time
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To: Enduring Freedom
Don't ask me! I haven't got any connections. :-P

I hope someone here gets them the message, and fast. This draft garbage needs to be nipped in the bud, but quick.

36 posted on 09/22/2004 2:17:10 PM PDT by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: B Knotts

Yup, there it was, all along.

McDermott - Democrat, Washington

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Campaigning for Kerry before the young Democrats, McDermott continued the anti-war and anti-George W. Bush messages he talked about in the movie.

He told the students that changes in military combat tours is "an unwritten, sneak draft." And he said an official draft could be coming soon.

"Everybody in this room who is 17 years old should know that the likelihood of a draft in a second Bush administration is almost a certainty," McDermott said.

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37 posted on 09/22/2004 2:18:18 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: pieces of time

Thank you for that list!


38 posted on 09/22/2004 2:18:24 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Enduring Freedom

Good. I think a lot of young folks would benefit by gaining the perspective of serving their country for two years instead of just getting the liberal indoctrination in the schools.


39 posted on 09/22/2004 2:19:25 PM PDT by PeterFinn ("John Kerry is a flip-flopper and a phony" - Howell Raines quoted in the Wash. Post)
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To: Enduring Freedom
Click the Graphic to View All FR 'Bump Lists'.

40 posted on 09/22/2004 2:20:37 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Enduring Freedom
This issue has the potential to grow ugly. Perhaps we can kill it now with a 527 ad that stuffs it right back at the 'Rats. On the record, and still on McDermott's website, the fact is that Democrats sponsored legislation, not Republicans.

Absolutely. I've been pleading for ads even before the Democrats started acting up lately accusing Republicans.

All these kids have to hear is the question: "Who would serve under a commander-in-chief John Kerry by choice?"

Oh they would love to blame Republicans for the need but make no mistake, they know that they would need a draft to have an army during a Kerry Presidency.

41 posted on 09/22/2004 2:20:39 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: Enduring Freedom; 007Dawg; 11B3; 123easy; 1911A1; 4woodenboats; 7mmMag@LeftCoast; A44MAGNUT; ...
Washington State Ping List

This is all known Washington State FReepers and interested parties as of 9/22/04 - 316 FReepers

If you want on or off this ping list Freepmail me.

42 posted on 09/22/2004 2:21:14 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: Spackidagoosh
I sent it to him this morning after it was first on freerepublic. Around 12.

NO excuse for him to ignore it then!! *wink*

43 posted on 09/22/2004 2:26:04 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Enduring Freedom
Hello,

My neighbors (good people, except for their politics) have sons ages 20 and 17. I guarantee that this issue will be brought up to me as yet another reason that Bush is wrong for us. I have taken the liberty of writing down the Bill #, who sponsored it and the web site that I can use to prove my point. Thank God for FR, it really makes it easy to prove the Left wrong!

Glad to be here, MOgirl
44 posted on 09/22/2004 2:26:22 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Explore this a little further. Democrats NEED to have a pool of disgruntled draftee GIs to be moaning and griping about their hopeless lot in life, and the inherent unfairness of being drafted while the kids they went to school with, are running around and exploiting all the opportunities they didn't get.

In a shooting engagement, the draftees are pushed out there as the "cannon fodder", the bodies that fall in such numbers the opponents can't even climb over them. This picture of warfare went out with the Korean War, and wasn't even much used in Viet Nam, where the enemy stepped out from between civilians, sniped off a shot, then faded back into the crowd surrounding them. This is almost entirely the type of warfare our soldiers now face.

Drafts will be totally ineffective in filling the ranks of the specialities needed for this new kind of warfare. What is needed is the technical support and the infrastructure to make these special forces operative, not ranks and ranks of obedient automatons.


45 posted on 09/22/2004 2:28:22 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Integrityrocks
My college daughter's roommate received an email about this bill from her professor last week. The roommate forwarded the email to all her friends and their parents last Thursday.

The email was intended to scare all the college kids. It claimed that "the administration" has secret plans to "reinstate the draft in June 2005, just after the November elections." Perhaps the professor's plan was to scare the students into voting for Kerry or to at least stay home and not vote for Bush (my daughter's plan). Prof's plan worked. They were scared.

My husband clarified the situation for the girls and also sent an email to Rush and Sean. This episode sounds very much like the "Cheat Factor" Sean mentioned on his show last Friday.

Other parents of college kids BEWARE!

46 posted on 09/22/2004 2:29:29 PM PDT by Prov3456
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To: PeterFinn
I think a lot of young folks would benefit by gaining the perspective of serving their country for two years instead of just getting the liberal indoctrination in the schools.

Is it just me or does this amount to...

"To keep kids from indoctination we'll indoctrinate them."

47 posted on 09/22/2004 2:29:31 PM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: MOgirl

See my post #46.


48 posted on 09/22/2004 2:33:01 PM PDT by Prov3456
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To: Enduring Freedom

And yet, John kerry and the DNC are saying the draft will be re-instated if Bush is re-elected.

I guess we now know which party will have the draft re-instated if their leader is elected. Today, the democrats have already called for the draft.


49 posted on 09/22/2004 2:33:18 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Enduring Freedom

McDermott represents a liberal mecca in Seattle peopled by druggies, hiv spreaders, and professional protestors, none of whom is eligible for the draft by reason of insanity. He has nothing to lose, at least in his own district.


50 posted on 09/22/2004 2:36:57 PM PDT by Veto! (Kerry wears a tutu, TeRAYza wears the pants)
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