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The Home Schooled Girl
Elijah Company Newsletter ^ | September 22, 2004 | Chris Davis

Posted on 09/23/2004 7:04:45 PM PDT by SLB

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To: DanielLongo
lol Someone on this T-shirt needs to be carrying a shotgun for a little realism.



Now that got me laughing
61 posted on 09/23/2004 8:31:29 PM PDT by Boazo
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To: HairOfTheDog
"OK - I think this article is sortof depressing, but everyone else seems uplifted by it.... So maybe I am just missing something!"

I'm with you.

We homeschool and my boys have lots of friends. Isolation is something we have purposely avoided.

We are enrolled in classes outside the home, play sports, and are very active in our communities, families and church.

I can't express the happiness I felt when, a couple of months ago, my grown son (who's VERY social, very balanced, and a wonderful young man - can you tell I'm proud of him?) gave me a hug and said, "Mom, I'm really glad you homeschooled me."

I'm very pro-homeschooling, but I don't agree with isolating the kids.

62 posted on 09/23/2004 8:33:11 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Sometimes these brain cells have a mind of their own.)
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To: jude24
"But some people, by what they did to their kids, have invalidated their rights to be parents."

If someone is abusing children, turn them in and let a judge and jury decide.

The public school bureaucrats are already biased and have their own preferences concerning homeschoolers. They are not objective.

63 posted on 09/23/2004 8:33:49 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: Bob Mc
How do you catch 'em?

Teachers are designated reporters -- if they see something off, they have to report it.

If parents isolate kids from the outside community -- it does happen -- how do you catch 'em?

64 posted on 09/23/2004 8:35:54 PM PDT by jude24 (sola gratia)
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To: JenB
Um... this article is insanely depressing, IMO.

Well, I think that makes you sane, even if depressed. ;~D Sorry doll.

65 posted on 09/23/2004 8:36:12 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (John Kerry... Almost as presidential as Jane Fonda.)
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To: ibheath

BTT bookmark for printing later


66 posted on 09/23/2004 8:37:12 PM PDT by ibheath (Born again and grateful to God.)
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To: jude24
You can't catch every single crime ever committed. In America we are innocent until proven guilty. I don't believe it is anyone's responsibility to go around snooping into other peoples private lives, looking for some possible crime.

Will some children be abused? Yes.

Is it so bad we need to establish a Nanny state to prevent it? No.

67 posted on 09/23/2004 8:40:40 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: Maigret
"I was a big proponent of home schooling until I met some family members who are products of a home school. The conclusion I've come to is that home schooling is only as good as the home they are schooled in.

I met a 17 year old and a 14 year old who had the maturity of someone less than half their ages. The 17 year old failed the SAT and in my estimation will never pass it. But far worse is the fact that neither of these kids has any ability to communicate with anyone outside of their immediate family. An immediate family that is headed by two of the most arrogantly ignorant people you'd ever want to meet.

They have brought these kids up by spoon feeding them intellectual pablum and making them incapable of any initiative or independent thought or action.

What they've done to these kids is criminal, so I will never again give a blanket approval to home schoolers. I know there are lots of terrific examples out there, but it is the ones that aren't terrific and are actually doing damage to their kids you don't hear about."

You are right. The good news is that this family is very unusual.

We've homeschooled for ten years and I know of one family which is somewhat like this. However, I know at least fifty other homeschooling families, none of which are like this at all.

Anything can be abused.

68 posted on 09/23/2004 8:41:35 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Sometimes these brain cells have a mind of their own.)
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To: SLB

Homeschool ping.


69 posted on 09/23/2004 8:42:27 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: SLB

My job brings me into close contact with homeschooled kids and their parents. The kids I meet are almost without exception bright, inquisitive, polite and actually able to hold a meaningful conversation with an adult--at age 8 or 9. The home schooling movement may save this nation in spite of itself.


70 posted on 09/23/2004 8:42:49 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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To: hiredhand

That is so good,I almost stood up and saluted! Spot on.


71 posted on 09/23/2004 8:44:37 PM PDT by Boazo
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To: jude24
Also, there is plenty of child abuse even with public schools kids. Teachers are trained to recognize such, catch some now and then, but still much goes unnoticed.

I really don't believe public schools are a significant factor for reducing child abuse. Family members, friends, and neighbors stop most child abuse.

72 posted on 09/23/2004 8:48:33 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: hiredhand

We are of the fortunate ones, I guess. We obviously made the right choice in where we moved, because the school district was the number one priority for us.

We have yet to meet a teacher or administrator that does not believe in God or in education in the traditional definition of it.

No one has ever told me I wasn't "smart enough" to home school, and they best not. I chose not to do so after my daughter turned 4. I had been doing much prior to that but realized that my temperment was not conducive for the task. We chose what we felt to be best for our child.

We do much at home in addition to what she learns in school and the teachers love us for it. And encourage us to do more. I guess we are lucky, we have a public school district/system that actually EXPECTS parental participation. And they achieve it.


73 posted on 09/23/2004 8:51:07 PM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: jude24
But there are mechanisms in place, in most cases, to catch 'em.

Darn feeble compared with their efforts to shut down homeschools, in most cases without even a scintilla of merit (hey I can speak attorney talk too).

74 posted on 09/23/2004 9:08:52 PM PDT by The Red Zone (The reason they're trying to starve her isn't because she's dying, but because she isn't. [Supercat])
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To: GOPrincess
I'm curious, do you give blanket approval to public schoolers?

I think if you read my post and the fact that I had been a proponent of home schools that you will find it difficult to extrapolate that I would be someone who approves of public schools.

Odds are, however, you'll find far fewer problems in the homeschool environment; as time goes on this is increasingly backed by hard data.

I can't think of 'hard data' when I look at two individuals who are going to have more than a difficult time in life because of their upbringing, their faces erase any thought of 'data'.

I can tell you this that the brother of one of the parents is going to send his kids to public school simply because of their example. I don't applaud that, he should use their example to do it better himself. The whole point I'm making is that being 'home schooled' is not synonymous with quality education.

I'm also more than turned off by the bumptious self righteous attitude that is often part of the whole home school movement.

75 posted on 09/23/2004 9:09:36 PM PDT by Maigret
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To: Bob Mc
And of course, this has never happened to a public school kid.

Of course it does, frequently, but we aren't talking about public schooling here, we're talking about home schooling and those who put it on a level where it must be unquestionably praised are not doing it any favors.

76 posted on 09/23/2004 9:15:23 PM PDT by Maigret
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To: Maigret
I can tell you this that the brother of one of the parents is going to send his kids to public school simply because of their example.

Holding my sides trying not to fall down laughing!

It's obvious the parents are dunces in that, thankfully rare, case. Does Bro deem himself to be a dunce? Does he think some evil magic descends from the skies upon home schools and turns everyone there into dunces?

77 posted on 09/23/2004 9:15:35 PM PDT by The Red Zone (The reason they're trying to starve her isn't because she's dying, but because she isn't. [Supercat])
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To: Maigret

The race is not always to the swift or the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet.


78 posted on 09/23/2004 9:16:03 PM PDT by The Red Zone (The reason they're trying to starve her isn't because she's dying, but because she isn't. [Supercat])
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To: Maigret
I'm also more than turned off by the bumptious self righteous attitude that is often part of the whole home school movement.

Bumpt, bumpt, bumpt

79 posted on 09/23/2004 9:17:00 PM PDT by The Red Zone (The reason they're trying to starve her isn't because she's dying, but because she isn't. [Supercat])
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To: SLB

I am the mother of a very intelligent 3 year old. I am planning on home schooling him as long as I can. I have already started with the basics. My question is if any of you participate in home school coops and what is a good way to find other home schooling christian famlies in my area.


80 posted on 09/23/2004 9:18:44 PM PDT by spotbust1 (Gun control is when you use both hands.)
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