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Oakland halts DUI checkpoints after Hispanic leaders complain
Kesq ^ | 9/26/04 | Kesq

Posted on 09/26/2004 8:01:41 PM PDT by freedom44

OAKLAND, Calif. The Oakland Police Department has halted its use of D-U-I checkpoints after the city's Hispanic leaders complained that the roadblocks were ensnaring too many illegal immigrants.

D-U-I checkpoints allow police officers to demand drivers' licenses and proof of insurance. City leaders agree the roadblocks are an effective way to get drunken drivers off the streets.

But Hispanic community leaders and City Council President Ignacio De La Fuente complained that the checkpoints were making life miserable for illegal immigrants who aren't licensed to drive but otherwise obey the law.

Police Chief Richard Word has ordered a month-long moratorium on the checkpoints while the department drafts new guidelines.

But City Councilmember Larry Reid says stopping the D-U-I checkpoints threatens public safety.


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1 posted on 09/26/2004 8:01:41 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44
ensnaring too many illegal immigrants.

I don't see the problem.

2 posted on 09/26/2004 8:03:04 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

sherrifs dept are a bunch of sissies...tell the activist group to shove it and keep doing their jobs!!!


3 posted on 09/26/2004 8:05:05 PM PDT by Casaubon (jus)
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To: freedom44

This is a joke, right?


4 posted on 09/26/2004 8:05:05 PM PDT by speedy
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To: freedom44

No brainer.


5 posted on 09/26/2004 8:05:34 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: freedom44
But Hispanic community leaders and City Council President Ignacio De La Fuente complained that the checkpoints were making life miserable for illegal immigrants who aren't licensed to drive but otherwise obey the law. Except, of course, for that other little niggling problem of them being here illegally and all.
6 posted on 09/26/2004 8:08:20 PM PDT by CalRepublican
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To: freedom44

I'm against all checkpoints unless it has to do with National security.


7 posted on 09/26/2004 8:09:48 PM PDT by byteback
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To: freedom44
...complained that the checkpoints were making life miserable for illegal immigrants who aren't licensed to drive but otherwise obey the law?!?!?!

Then therre's always the possibility they're drunk to boot. There are more contradictions in this one sentence that in a typical Kerry speech.

8 posted on 09/26/2004 8:10:09 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: freedom44
Funny that Oakland's mayor hasn't weighed in on this issue. What's his name again? Oh, yeah. Jerry Brown.

And it seems to me he's running for some state office right now. Let me think. Oh, yeah. Attorney General.

9 posted on 09/26/2004 8:10:21 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: freedom44

I just don't understand. Is there an alternate definition to illegal that I haven't came across? Wouldn't a city/county/state want to capture illegal immigrants? Especially CA where money is tight and illegal immigrants are major reason for it.

Maybe I should enroll at Berkley and let them inform about why stopping the DUI checkpoints makes sense for everyone.


10 posted on 09/26/2004 8:10:26 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: speedy
This is a joke, right?

I clicked the link and it doesn't go to the onion.

11 posted on 09/26/2004 8:11:58 PM PDT by Eddeche
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To: freedom44
But Hispanic community leaders and City Council President Ignacio De La Fuente complained that the checkpoints were making life miserable for illegal immigrants who aren't licensed to drive but otherwise obey the law.

If they're here illegally, they AREN'T obeying the law!

12 posted on 09/26/2004 8:12:03 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


13 posted on 09/26/2004 8:12:21 PM PDT by zip ((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans))
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To: freedom44

bump


14 posted on 09/26/2004 8:18:17 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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To: freedom44

i think it's time to cut off oakland and detach it from the US.


15 posted on 09/26/2004 8:23:02 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: Texas Eagle

"What's his name again? Oh, yeah. Jerry Brown."

J. Moonbeam Brown may be a left wingnut - however he is one of the few honest and trustworthy public trough feeders around.

I don't agree with him often but I do respect him.

City Council President Ignacio De La Fuente on the other hand is a classical case of "the problem". (if investigated would probably have cookie jar hands)

City Councilmember Larry Reid on the other hand seems to have his priorities right. I'm going to give his office a call in the AM and let them know he is appreciated.

Oakland resident off and on since '42 -


16 posted on 09/26/2004 8:23:33 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: CalRepublican
Except, of course, for that other little niggling problem of them being here illegally and all.

I'd be r-e-a-l careful about using that word that sounds sort of like another word that is "hate speech" unless uttered in a rap song or under similar circumstances. Remember the poor DC employee who lost his job for telling his staff that they would have to be more "niggardly" in dispensing city aid to the poor.

17 posted on 09/26/2004 8:29:11 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: freedom44

Haw, HAw HaW, hAw , haw! These illegals don't have any money to get , and they can cause the cops a world of shit. Why don't they set in amsush outside of bars and restaurants again and stop spooking the herd.


18 posted on 09/26/2004 8:33:05 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Casaubon

"sherrifs dept are a bunch of sissies"

Yo! Watch it! Our Alameda County Sheriff (that's one r and two f's) and his troops are far from sissies.

Sheriff Plummer is an astute law enforcement officer and knows his way around politically as well.

Our local OPD cops are great troops also.

Problem is they take their marching orders from voter sensitive public trough feeders.

And no badmouthing of SF cops either. The city may be off the charts - but the cops are cool and professional.


19 posted on 09/26/2004 8:34:09 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: freedom44

If there is Racial Profiling
Could there not also be Racial Favoritism ?

I mean we all know the only human beings on earththat are racist are White Christian Males so don't that mean that any other color than white has favoritism on it's side ?

How are we supposed to veiw this Ignorance you can make all the laws you want against anything you want but scream racial profiling and your free as a bird to do it again and again but if a white man even mentions racial profiling hes laughed out of the courtroom in chains and the key is thrown away.

In fact this reply may be removed just for mentioning everything im saying because someones feeeeeeeeelings might get stepped on .

BOOOOO HOOOOOOO .

I hate racism every aspect of it is vile no matter what color you are or what youve been taught your skin color is not you your character is YOU i have freinds in a multitude of countrys and a multitude of colors and i have never judged what they do by what color they are it just makes no damn sense !


20 posted on 09/26/2004 8:35:14 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Want to know why I don't vote Democrat?" http://www.museumofleftwinglunacy.com)
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To: byteback

duh!!!National Security, what a concept!!!


21 posted on 09/26/2004 8:35:57 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: freedom44
OAKLAND, Calif. The Oakland Police Department has halted its use of D-U-I checkpoints after the city's Hispanic leaders complained that the roadblocks were ensnaring too many illegal immigrants.

I think I'm going to pretend this isn't happening
22 posted on 09/26/2004 8:39:08 PM PDT by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: Vision

This country has gone completly off the hook insane ..Nothing makes sense anymore.I have ot go to bed I think ..I've had it


23 posted on 09/26/2004 8:42:23 PM PDT by omstrat (NJ/NYC republican)
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To: byteback

gee, don't you think having ILLEGALS running around freely is against our "NATIONAL SECURITY"?---WHAT A DEETZ


24 posted on 09/26/2004 8:44:03 PM PDT by cmotormac44
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To: omstrat
This country has gone completly off the hook insane ..Nothing makes sense anymore.I have ot go to bed I think ..I've had it

I think I'm gonna go have a bourbon
25 posted on 09/26/2004 8:45:31 PM PDT by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: Vision

get another glass I'll join you ..


26 posted on 09/26/2004 8:46:00 PM PDT by omstrat (NJ/NYC republican)
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To: freedom44; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp
after the city's Hispanic leaders complained that the roadblocks were ensnaring too many illegal immigrants.

Get me out of here. The inmates have taken over the asylum..

27 posted on 09/26/2004 8:49:52 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: freedom44
"illegal immigrants who aren't licensed to drive but otherwise obey the law"??????????

What exactly is Fuentes point?

28 posted on 09/26/2004 8:52:11 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: cmotormac44
gee, don't you think having ILLEGALS running around freely is against our "NATIONAL SECURITY"?---WHAT A DEETZ

A Geography lesson is in order for you. The border is a few miles south. (Find a friend with a map).

29 posted on 09/26/2004 8:55:33 PM PDT by byteback
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To: freedom44

I agree that it is insane to stop this because the illegals have complained. However, I am real leary of giving the police the power to stop and arrest people without cause.


30 posted on 09/26/2004 9:02:26 PM PDT by sharkhawk (I want to go to St. Somewhere)
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So if I get pulled over for boozin' and cruisin', BUT I HAVE a license, citizenship, proof of insurance, and my car is up to date on inspections, then they should just let me go. I may be driving drunk, but I'm otherwise obeying the law.


31 posted on 09/26/2004 9:03:21 PM PDT by gringo_in_Akita
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To: sharkhawk

By the way, Amen, Sharkhawk.


32 posted on 09/26/2004 9:04:34 PM PDT by gringo_in_Akita
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To: freedom44

This is not just PC law enforcement run a mock, this is far more sinister as these Hispanic activists are being coached by the Mexican government, and they must they we have nothing but a bunch of keystone cops !

Exerpt from
The Gazette.com

Consulate sends message on rumors
http://www.gazette.com/display.php?sid=1089062

TheThe Mexican Consulate in Denver began receiving reports about citywide raids during the Fourth of July weekend. That was the same time the Colorado Springs Police Department set up DUI checkpoints.

The Mexican Consulate in Denver sent out letters in an attempt to quell rumors and calm Hispanics worried that immigration officials are rounding up illegal immigrants in Colorado Springs.

In the letter, the consulate asked the public to inform the office of concrete examples of any immigration roundup so they can investigate.


33 posted on 09/26/2004 9:04:54 PM PDT by seastay
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To: freedom44

LOL !

Oh that's a keeper.
You know these sobriety checks make life miserable for drunk drivers, too. LOL.


34 posted on 09/26/2004 9:10:17 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: byteback

The border is a few miles south of OAKLAND? You must be refering to the Taco Bell your friend works at.


35 posted on 09/26/2004 9:10:34 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: speedy

A joke. No, they're here to be a burden on our society, to take jobs from Americans, to depress wages locally and on and on. But The Corporate types want them here as a substitute for slaves. So, the Politicians and cops bend over. Shadowrun.


36 posted on 09/26/2004 9:10:51 PM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Valin; AdmSmith

PoNgO


37 posted on 09/26/2004 9:14:38 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: freedom44

City Council President Ignacio De La Fuente and Police Chief Richard Word must be the girlie men that Arnold has been talking about lately. This Police Chief is a sissy. I feel sorry for the police officers that have to work for him. They can't even do their job because of the political cowardness of the Chief Richard Word.


38 posted on 09/26/2004 9:17:30 PM PDT by Texan For Truth ("The struggle to get the truth has created the success of the new media")
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To: freedom44
Hispanderers!

39 posted on 09/26/2004 9:39:31 PM PDT by upchuck (You do know that the Tasmanians, who never committed adultery, are now extinct, don't you?)
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To: freedom44

Seems to me the easist thing for the Police Chief of Oakland to do is to continue the DUI checkpoints but issue a directive to his officers that no drunk Mexicans are to be detained.

That should solve the problem.


40 posted on 09/26/2004 9:48:11 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Not Fonda Kerry in '04 // Vets Against Kerry)
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To: tubebender

>>Get me out of here. The inmates have taken over the asylum..


Where ya goin'? Can I come too?


41 posted on 09/27/2004 2:10:02 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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KESQ ^ | 9/26/2004
Oakland, Calif. - The Oakland Police Department has halted its use of D-U-I checkpoints after the city's Hispanic leaders complained that the roadblocks were ensnaring too many illegal immigrants.D-U-I checkpoints allow police officers to demand drivers' licenses and proof of insurance. City leaders agree the roadblocks are an effective way to get drunken drivers off the streets.But Hispanic community leaders and City Council President Ignacio De La Fuente complained that the checkpoints were making life miserable for illegal immigrants who aren't licensed to drive but otherwise obey the law.Police Chief Richard Word has ordered a month-long moratorium on the checkpoints...

42 posted on 09/27/2004 2:17:50 AM PDT by spodefly (A bunny-slippered operative in the Vast Right-Wing Pajama Party.)
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To: rebel_yell2
I'd be r-e-a-l careful about using that word that sounds sort of like another word that is "hate speech" unless uttered in a rap song or under similar circumstances. Remember the poor DC employee who lost his job for telling his staff that they would have to be more "niggardly" in dispensing city aid to the poor.

Your comments made me snigger.

43 posted on 09/27/2004 2:33:24 AM PDT by usadave
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To: freedom44
The Oakland Police Department has halted its use of D-U-I checkpoints after the city's Hispanic leaders complained that the roadblocks were ensnaring too many illegal immigrants lawbreakers.
44 posted on 09/27/2004 2:38:06 AM PDT by usadave
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To: freedom44
The Oakland Police Department has halted its use of D-U-I checkpoints after the city's Hispanic leaders complained that the roadblocks were ensnaring too many illegal immigrants.

Yeah, and stop posing as young girls on the internet. You're catching too many pedophiles.

45 posted on 09/27/2004 2:40:38 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: tubebender

Good ol' Mayor MoonBeam! And if he gets elected AG in '06, he'll probably free all the illegals in prison too if he had his way.

lol

Onto cabo san lucas.. woohooo!!!


46 posted on 09/27/2004 2:10:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: freedom44
But the checks also have ensnared dozens of illegal immigrants who are not licensed to drive yet otherwise obey the law.

First of all, if I lived in Oakland I'd probably be drawn to the bottle as well.

Seriously, isn't this, in fact, a reason to expand the checkpoints and dualize their purpose? If this is proven an effective tool to get illegal aliens out of the country, and California is suffering from paralyzing budget woes, why not get the INS involved and broaden and coordinate this effort?

Seems like common sense, but then what do I know?

47 posted on 09/27/2004 8:20:17 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: NormsRevenge
What happens if an illegal gets nailed by a drunk?
48 posted on 09/27/2004 8:21:15 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

It shouldn't take long to find out that answer.

What a disgusting display by MoonBeam and his city to allow this to happen. What in God's good name are they thinking?


49 posted on 09/27/2004 10:02:44 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge
And I thought I heard something about him running for Governor. Didn't he see how much voters liked illegals when they kicked Davis out?
50 posted on 09/27/2004 10:06:21 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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