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We Can Lose This Election!
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Posted on 09/27/2004 7:43:48 AM PDT by MindBender26

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To: MindBender26
"The election of John Kerry would mean the end of the America we know today."

Just playing devils advocate here..............

With a gop controlled congress and senate, how will much, if any of kerry's agenda be passed?

We all understand that without a solid 60 votes in the senate, it is nearly impossible to even get a vote to the floor on a judicial nominee.

I was engaged in a similar conversation to this one over the weekend. Just wondering what anyone's thoughts are.

61 posted on 09/27/2004 9:31:13 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: MindBender26

No S#!t.


62 posted on 09/27/2004 9:31:45 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Skooz
We have to get out every vote we can to overcome all the dead Democrats...

Indeed. The Dims have honed their GOTV skills on several levels; to raising the dead, non voting voters(thanks motor voter), and vote multipliers(self explanatory?). Not bad.

Recall the 2000 elections: conservatives began showing up in Dim strongholds as poll watchers, the Dims countered with their army of ambulance chasers to keep an eye on us. The result, an unprecedented electoral victory in an "off" year for Pubbies. Says volumes about where the shenanigans are actually happening

Conservatives should be out in force again this year to keep an eye on the Dims. And, probably just as important, we conservatives need to make a BIG splash re poll watching before the election to put the ne'er-do-wells on notice.....again.

FGS

63 posted on 09/27/2004 9:34:09 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Salvation
So is your so-called broken glass half-full or half-empty?

No, no. I would crawl over broken glass in order to get to the poll to vote for President Bush.

64 posted on 09/27/2004 9:34:23 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (I'm just a guy sitting in my living room in my pajamas...)
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To: Prime Choice
>>>>It's not precisely pessimism.

Sure it is. It's pure pessimism.

>>>>Scare tactics? Hardly. This is reality.

Reality my arse! The one line I referred to is the same type of scare tactics that liberals use to rally their troops. In my book, conservatives and Republicans are better then that. We don't need to resort to doom and gloom rhetoric to motivate our side. You should take a cue from our optimistic and positive President and leave the scare tactics to the liberals.

>>>>We only survived the New Deal because of Reagan.

Btw, Reagan was POTUS during the 1980`s. The New Deal was FDR`s doing back during the 1930`s.

65 posted on 09/27/2004 9:34:57 AM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: MindBender26
We were also way ahead in 2000

That is true. I remember in the last two days reading a story about how all the reporters had booked hotel rooms in Texas and none in Tennesee. For me that was the final straw. I was convinced that W would be P easily and I told everyone that he would win and it would not be close.

66 posted on 09/27/2004 9:35:33 AM PDT by winodog (JFK is a double minded man, unstable in all his ways)
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To: MindBender26

US Govt : Saddam links to Bin Laden since 1998 - Kerry wrong again!

http://www.archive-news.net/Articles/SH040923.html

Summary AND Links

to US Govt and Media files

linking Osama bin Laden

and Iraq and Saddam Hussein

Since 1998

We have tried to provide a representation of the documentation
available on the Internet
that shows a link between Osama bin Laden and Iraq and Saddam
Hussein.
This is by no means an exhaustive list.
We have made an attempt to provide live links.
If you find dead links or would like more information, or to submit
comments, contact:
JHSmith@archive-news.net

E-mail the media this url
http://www.archive-news.net/Articles/SH040923.html

Locate media in all 50 states here
http://congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/


67 posted on 09/27/2004 9:37:59 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: MindBender26

I was out walking my precinct yesterday with doorhangers and reminders. What were you doing?


68 posted on 09/27/2004 9:38:41 AM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: MindBender26

9/26/04 CENTCOM Leader : War in Iraq Moving in the Right Direction,

http://www.dod.mil/news/Sep2004/n09262004_2004092602.html

American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Sept. 26, 2004 – As January elections loom in Iraq, Army Gen. John Abizaid, head of U.S. Central Command, said today the country is headed in the right direction.

"We are in fact moving in the direction that will allow Iraq to emerge as a democratic and representational state. I think that our military activities there have moved it ahead in a positive manner," Abizaid told host Tim Russert on "Meet the Press." "It's a tough fight, it's a hard fight. But we shouldn't lose heart because there are difficult times. We know that there will be fighting through the elections."

Insurgent resistance continues to plague coalition and Iraqi troops, Abizaid said. He was asked about a Turkish journalist's report that all Iraqis near Mosul, including the children, are involved in or supporting the resistance. Abizaid responded that if that was true, Iraqi forces would not number 100,000, nor would that number be climbing.

"If everybody in Iraq was in the resistance, Prime Minister Allawi would not be trying to lead his nation forward to a better future. If everybody in Iraq happened to be part of the resistance, they wouldn't be volunteering for the armed forces," Abizaid aid. "There's more people that are coming forward to fight for the future of Iraq than are fighting against it."

While the resistance continues, Abizaid said he thinks there are fewer than 1,000 foreign fighters in Iraq, adding that the primary problem in Iraq is former regime elements fighting against the government. He said those elements are trying everything in their power to upend the election process.

"Yes, there is a resistance. Yes, it is hard," the general noted. "But the truth of the matter is that Iraqis and Americans and other members of the coalition will face that resistance together (and) will, through a series of political, economic and military means, figure out a way to defeat it and will move on to allow the elections to take place and a constitutional government to emerge."

Abizaid said that regardless of the insurgency situation, he and his commanders feel sure they can provide stability for the January elections. "Commanders in the field are confident about the military mission, they're confident about our ability to have an election period that is fair and relatively stable," he said.

Abizaid also commented on statements that it's possible only a portion of Iraq, maybe three-fourths of the country, would be stable enough to hold elections. He replied that no election is perfect and that to have most of the country to vote was the goal.

"That the election will be able to be held in the vast majority of the country under good circumstances is our goal. But right now, considering that 25,000 more Iraqi forces will join the effort, between now and the late-January elections, that election will be able to be held," Abizaid said. "We'll have to fight our way through the elections with a lot of violence between now and then."

He noted that Iraqi forces will most likely take the lead on securing elections in the stable areas, while U.S. troops would probably handle the hotspots.

The CENTCOM commander said Americans need to brace themselves for a long war in the Middle East and Central Asia, though not necessarily one that requires huge numbers of American troops. But the war will be long because the battle being waged is between extremists and moderates.

"It'll be a long process. It'll be a difficult process. But it'll be one that can be successfully fought not only at home, but in the international community and with the peoples of the region to set the standards for good government and the standards for a moderate lifestyle," he said.


69 posted on 09/27/2004 9:38:55 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: Reagan Man
Reality my arse!

Fine. I challenge you to dispute anything I pointed out. And use facts, not opinions.

We only survived the New Deal because of Reagan.

Btw, Reagan was POTUS during the 1980`s. The New Deal was FDR`s doing back during the 1930`s.

I know that, ya hammerhead. Are you under the impression that the New Deal leftism died with FDR?? Got news for you, sunshine.

70 posted on 09/27/2004 9:39:03 AM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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To: MindBender26

Nearly 25% 0f Troops in Iraq are Non US Troops - Kerry wrong again!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/iraq/foreigntroops.html

In addition to the United States, which has more than 130,000 troops in Iraq, many other countries have sent military personnel. The number of non-American coalition troops is more than 40,000, though numbers fluctuate.

United Kingdom: 9,000 soldiers
Italy: 3,000 soldiers, some serving as police and engineers
Poland: 2,400 soldiers
Ukraine: 1,600 soldiers
Netherlands: 1,100 soldiers plus a logistics team, a field hospital, military police and 200 engineers
Japan: 1,100 soldiers assigned to reconstruction
Australia: 800 soldiers
Romania: 700 soldiers plus 149 de-mining specialists, military police and "special intelligence" members
South Korea: 600 military engineers and medics
Bulgaria: 480 soldiers plus chemical warfare experts
Thailand: 440 soldiers assigned to humanitarian missions
Denmark: 420 soldiers including medics and military police
El Salvador: 360 soldiers
Hungary: 300 soldiers
Norway: 179 soldiers, mostly engineers and mine clearers
Mongolia: 160 soldiers involved in peacekeeping
Azerbaijan: 150 soldiers taking part in law enforcement and protection of historic monuments
Portugal: 125 soldiers functioning as police officers
Latvia: 120 soldiers
Lithuania: 115 soldiers
Slovakia: 102 soldiers
Czech Republic: 80 soldiers, serving as police
Philippines: 80 soldiers plus police and medics
Albania: 70 non-combat troops
Georgia: 70 soldiers
New Zealand: 60 army engineers assigned to reconstruction (expected to leave in Sept. 2004)
Moldova: 50 soldiers including de-mining specialists and medics
Macedonia: 35 soldiers
Estonia: 30 soldiers
Kazakhstan: 30 soldiers (expected to leave end of May 2004)
Spain withdrew its troops from Iraq following the election of Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero on March 14. Honduras and the Dominican Republic quickly followed suit. The three countries combined had nearly 2,000 troops in Iraq. Nicaragua withdrew its 115 troops at the end of March 2004 for economic reasons.

Countries that provide non-military support include: Kuwait and Qatar, which have hosted the U.S. Central Command and the invasion force; Ethiopia and Eritrea, which have given use of bases or ports; and Turkey, which has given permission for airspace use. Others countries have opted to give political support: Angola, Costa Rica, Colombia, Iceland, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Mongolia, Palau, Panama, Rwanda, Singapore, Solomon Islands, Uganda and Uzbekistan.

In early April 2004, the Bush administration indicated it was negotiating with another 50 countries that had expressed interest in providing peacekeeping troops.

FOREIGN WORKERS

The exact number of foreign workers in Iraq is hard to gauge, but it's at least 30,000. Many work for companies that have contracts with the American military to provide support or to rebuild the country. Others work for aid agencies.

Companies with U.S. Department of Defence contracts:
Kellogg, Brown and Root
Washington Group International
Fluor Intercontinental
Perini Corporation
Vinnell Corporation
CSC DynCorp International

Companies with U.S. Agency for International Development contracts:
International Resources Group
Air Force Augmentation Program
Stevedoring Services of America
Creative Associates International
Research Triangle Institute
Abt Associates
Skylink Air and Logistics Support
Bearing Point Inc.
Bechtel (including subcontractors from the UK, Saudi Arabia, Cyprus, Kuwait, Switzerland)

Non-governmental organizations with USAID grants:
United Nation's Children's Fund (UNICEF)
World Health Organization (WHO)
Mercy Corps
International Relief and Development Incorporated
Agriculture Co-operative Development International
Volunteers in Overseas Co-operative Assistance
Co-operative Housing Foundation
Save the Children Federation
Iraqi Nursing Association


71 posted on 09/27/2004 9:39:41 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: All
I don't care what the "polls" say, the "rumors" etc.
MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED
AND ACTUALLY VOTE
DOUBLE CHECK YOUR VOTER CARD TODAY!

72 posted on 09/27/2004 9:40:28 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: WhiteGuy
With a gop controlled congress and senate, how will much, if any of kerry's agenda be passed?

Considering how the Republican majority in Congress couldn't even break the Democrat's filibusters, I'd say that they'll pretty much rubberstamp anything Kerry sends 'em.

73 posted on 09/27/2004 9:41:26 AM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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To: ForGod'sSake
Oops. I should proofread a little closer:

Recall the 2000 2002 elections...

FGS

74 posted on 09/27/2004 9:41:35 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: MindBender26
Never before has there been an election that so threatens America.

Except the last one,,,, and the next one.

75 posted on 09/27/2004 9:42:15 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: DM1

I agree. I believe that victory or defeat now hinges completely on the "ground game" to get out the vote. If our troops do their job, we'll win. If we sit at home, we'll lose. It's that simple.


76 posted on 09/27/2004 9:45:03 AM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Hildy

Sitting at home, watching my precinct blow by. (Orlando, Hurricane Jeanne)


77 posted on 09/27/2004 9:45:30 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Dan Rather is the disease. FR is the cure.)
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To: bella1

Bless you for saying that. My wife and I are involved in two prayer meetings a week for the election. No one of faith should believe that God is neutral when it comes to the character of leaders or the principles upon which a nation functions.


78 posted on 09/27/2004 9:47:40 AM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Prime Choice
"I'd say that they'll pretty much rubberstamp anything Kerry sends 'em."

This point was made and I, for one, was unable to refute it. I find it disturbing that the majority of the republicans who hold elected office, have adopted the M.O. of the democrats and have abandoned conservative principles.

79 posted on 09/27/2004 9:47:59 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: MindBender26

where do you find complacency? every one i talk with sees this as a very important election... i went to a homeschool picnic last Friday, and i was amazed at all the people i saw wearing Bush t-shirts... who's complacent?


80 posted on 09/27/2004 9:49:01 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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