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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

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To: mwl1; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; devolve; potlatch; Smartass; JohnHuang2; Mia T; dennisw
"4. Women co-workers tell me that suburban Moms and moderate women do not want a president fighting in the mud... that Bush was smart to remain "above the fray."


Yes, President Bush did conduct an honorable debate. But you know what they say about who never wins.

I wanted to see more aggresiveness in the president's rebuttals. For example, he could have completely totally slamdunked Kerry on Kerry's voting NO to supply enhanced body armor to our troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan. And that just happened a few months ago. Even the talking heads over at Fox were scratching their heads over that one . .

3,641 posted on 10/01/2004 10:06:24 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 32 more days until November 2nd.)
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To: tuckrdout
I hear that the President was very tired after visiting hurricane victims, earlier in the day.

And don't forget they had a TERRORIST problem -- anthrax. I imagine that took up some time.

3,642 posted on 10/01/2004 10:08:28 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Cold Heat
Bush held his own and had Kerry on the ropes during the first half.

Yes, I thought Bush did great in the first half.
But then he just sort of fell apart in the second half. It was painful to watch.

I know some solid Republicans at work who think Bush's performance at the end of the debate has cost him badly in this election.

I don't care what these talking head idiots say. Elections do not pivot on debates.

After last night I wish I could believe this.

The truth is elections have turned on debates, many times. Kennedy and Nixon, Carter and Reagan, Reagan and Mondale, Hillary and Lazio are just a few examples

3,643 posted on 10/01/2004 2:11:42 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: cyncooper
Um, you do understand that I was citing what Lockhart was caught saying privately, right? Are you going to believe his candid comment or the one he says for the teevee camera? Hmmmmmm?

Well ALL THE polls show what he said before the TV camera turned out to be right.

3,644 posted on 10/01/2004 2:13:08 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge

I don't think you are following what is going on, but thanks anyway.

3,645 posted on 10/01/2004 2:16:47 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: cyncooper
I don't think you are following what is going on

What's to follow?

So Lockhart said one thing privately and something else to the TV. Big surprise.
Did you have some other point to make that I missed?

3,646 posted on 10/01/2004 2:49:03 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: RushCrush

pinging you on first thread.

3,647 posted on 10/01/2004 5:16:13 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: NewMediaFan

That picture sums it up!!!

3,648 posted on 10/01/2004 5:52:42 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (The great travesty of Junk Science - the slaying of a beautiful fact by an ugly hypothesis)
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To: steveegg

Once a traitor always a traitor....

Hey, I happen to know this is a fact! You see, my ancestor actually went into business with Benedict Arnold in New Brunswick Canada, after the war!

Arnold cheated him and tried to ruin his reputation! But, instead Arnold was run out of town!

Let's run Kerry out of our towns too. Can you imagine having to see and hear this dolt every night on the news?! Geez, I can not wait until this election is done, so he will be gone!

3,649 posted on 10/01/2004 6:47:36 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Grant Teri Schindler (Schiavo) her wishes: Divorce and LIFE!)
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I think we should see more of Bush the Man - not what Rove tells him. When he stands on his own, Bushs' true nature comes across to the people.
I think he listened too much to his advisors and not enough to his very good instincts.

3,650 posted on 10/01/2004 7:38:37 PM PDT by WidowWind ("We'll look hard, we'll look through, we'll look hard... to see for real." Andrew Eldritch)
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To: mtbopfuyn

"Something besides this inane debate is up. I'm not comfortable with W's appearance

Here's a distracting tidbit for you:

"Amit Yoran, a former software executive from Symantec Corp., informed the White House
about his plans to quit
as director of the National Cyber Security Division and made his resignation effective at the
end of Thursday,
effectively giving a single's day notice of his intentions to leave. "

3,651 posted on 10/01/2004 7:41:58 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: handy

I have been lurking for quite sometime but feel compelled to address what Kerry said about the families of troops having to send them body armor. My neighbor's son-in-law is on leave from Iraq now, so I called him to ask if this is true. He said it is absolutlely untrue. Said all troops have body armor. I hope I posted this correctly. I have enjoyed lurking. Conservativegrandma

3,652 posted on 10/01/2004 8:00:49 PM PDT by conservativegrandma
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To: conservativegrandma

You did great. Welcome to the fight.

3,653 posted on 10/01/2004 9:10:10 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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Did ya notice how Kerry took some cards or something out of his pocket? He's such a cheater, loser, traitor, pompous, arrogant a****le.
Whew, now I feel better. President Bush did just fine. He had the same facial expressions as I did every time the Liar opened his mouth. I laughed every time Bush made a face. hehe.

3,654 posted on 10/03/2004 8:43:19 PM PDT by Lovergirl (Proud member of the Pajama Brigade.)
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To: xzins
Here was my post debate analysis on Thursday night. Looks dead-on right to me!

Hugh hasn't a clue. By Monday, this will be even nationally, with Kerry pulling close or ahead in some swing states. Bush may well still win, but the polls will shrink by Monday -- and the media will spin hard.

Bookmark it.

3,655 posted on 10/04/2004 9:14:42 AM PDT by Iron Eagle
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To: Iron Eagle

Bush 49% Kerry 46%

The latest Rasmussen Reports Presidential Tracking Poll shows President George W. Bush with 49% of the vote and Senator John Kerry with 46%.

When leaners are included in the total, Kerry has closed to within two points of the President. Also, the President's Job Approval has fallen a point since the debate.

These results are based upon a survey of 3,000 Likely Voters conducted since Thursday night's debate. Overall, they show that Senator Kerry has gained one percentage point so far from the debate. It remains to be seen whether or not that bounce will grow leading up to the second debate. More...

3,656 posted on 10/04/2004 9:17:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Happy2BMe


3,657 posted on 10/07/2004 5:10:45 PM PDT by NYC Republican (Skerry talks about building coalitions...He voted NO in the Gulf War, Yes this time...Flip-Flop Liar)
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To: laishly
"Watch Kerry take a slight lead at the end of next week. Mark my words, or I'll eat crow."

Would you like that with Heinz catsup or Heinz 57 Sauce? I think W did a great job of showing the audience that he is in charge of the war and that Kerry doesn't have the vaguest idea what to do. W inspired confidence in his leadership. Kerry just looked like he got a nice tan and a fresh manicure. Oh yes! And he served in Vietnam and wants to be president really really bad.

I hate to say I told you so, but...

3,658 posted on 10/07/2004 5:13:15 PM PDT by NYC Republican (Skerry talks about building coalitions...He voted NO in the Gulf War, Yes this time...Flip-Flop Liar)
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