Above: The Prophet Muhammad, in an AP file photo
Posted on 10/04/2004 6:11:52 AM PDT by robowombat
6. The marriage was supposedly consumated when she was 8 or 9.
Is her age in dispute?
I've never heard it seriously disputed.
Hadith: Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
The 1911 Catholic Encyclopedia entry on Mohammedanism
In matters political Islam is a system of despotism at home and aggression abroad. The Prophet commanded absolute submission to the imâm. In no case was the sword to be raised against him. The rights of non-Moslem subjects are of the vaguest and most limited kind, and a religious war is a sacred duty whenever there is a chance of success against the "Infidel". Medieval and modern Mohammedan, especially Turkish, persecutions of both Jews and Christians are perhaps the best illustration of this fanatical religious and political spirit.Bring back moral clarity, please!
"It all depends on your definition of "underage".
How old was his wife?
Is her age in dispute?"
She was nine. and no there is no dispute.
"hate it all you want but there were no statuatory rape laws back then"
Are you crazy? Obviously you have no female children and are not female yourself. You yourself must be a pervert to think that it's just A-OK to have sex with a nine year old child. Girls don't even usually have breast buds by then. You ought to be ashamed of your comment and ask God to forgive you right now
These words were written at a time when the Church had moral clarity. Today, morality is governed by the "Proportionalists", although many of us Thomists are beginning to be heard. Proportionalism has clouded the intellect and enhanced and nutured moral relativism.
I'm not familiar with "Proportionalism." Is it like societal utilitarianism?
So why do Muslims hold up Mohammed today as the perfect role model? They are not judging his behavior by today's standards, but they are using his behavior to create modern Muslim standards of behavior.
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Hey Publius, Didn't ol' Mohammed also marry rich? I seem to recall something about one of his first wives being rich and influential. Did he use her to build his "religon"?
Another variant—"proportionalism"—"by weighing the various values and goods being sought, focuses rather on the proportion acknowledged between the good and bad effects of that choice, with a view to the 'greater' good or 'lesser evil' actually possible in a particular situation"
It's very similar to old-fashioned utilitarianism. Mill:
As the foundation of his structure Mill asserts that every man necessarily acts in order to obtain his own happiness; but finding this ground logically insufficient to furnish a basis for an adequate criterion of conduct, and prompted by his own large sympathies, he quickly endeavours to substitute "the happiness of all concerned" for "the agent's own happiness". The argument over which he, the author of a formidable work on logic, endeavours to pass from the first to the second position, may serve as an example suitable to submit to the beginner in logic when he is engaged in the detection of sophisms. The argument, in brief, is that, as each one desires and pursues his own happiness, and the sum total of these individual ends makes up the general happiness, it follows that the general happiness is the one thing desirable by all and provides the Utilitarian standard of what is right in conduct.
Yes! That's why I found your post #69 so perceptive.
I'll be damned...the "Prophet" Mohammed and Michael Jackson DO have something in common.
Oh, no..! Not my brand-new wireless keyboard...
Just wondering...
Can I get an "amen", brothers & sisters? :)
An "amen" comin' right up. :)
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