[Cultural Jihad]

In this case, why wouldn't a presidetial cadidate on the ballot be allowed to have a voice in a debate if there wasn't a two party collusion against it.

Show me chapter and verse where the Constitution says all fringed ideologues have a right to be heard.

[Xenalyte]

It's in the same place you find the right to privacy. Take a look.

[z3n]

"Show me chapter and verse where the Constitution says all fringed ideologues have a right to be heard."

The constitution was not the salient point in my post.

My point was that libertarians stand for individual liberties protected from the group (mob rule), or more aptly, the government. This government has built in a system that is now constructed to support the 2 party system and exclude potential 3rd parties. This is very much in the spirit of libertarianism to give the little guy a voice against the powers that would exclude him.

[LibertyRocks]

The REPUBLICAN party was once a "Fringe" third-party too.

[Future Useless Eater]

>>Show me chapter and verse where the Constitution says all fringed ideologues have a right to be heard.

For that matter, I doubt that there is a sentence in the Constitution that says when two people (or candidates) agree to meet at a certain place, date, and time to discuss issues, that ALL other interested persons ALSO have a right to speak at that SAME place, date, and time.

[o_zarkman44]

If a candidate is so fringed then give them the same opportunity in front of the cameras to make an a$$ of themselves. You might be surprised that your so called fringe candidates are highly educated and probably would be a formidable challenge to the caviar eating selectees.

If lunatic fringe becomes apparant........ the people can decide to nix them. But IMHO, Kerry is lunatic fringe, but has big money behind him and an agenda that can undo over 225 years of investment in our constitutional republic.

It is a farce that Americans have become conditioned to believe our election process has a choice between 2 choices who broker deals all the time with only their survival in mind. A 3rd or 4th candidate in the mix would expose the good ol boys club.

Afghanistan just had elections with 12 choices on the ballot. The people all campaigned to large crowds and were given access to the media equally. Could we say that perhaps Afghanistan has become more democratic than Americas 2 party choice election?

[B.O. Plenty]

Show me chapter and verse where the Constitution says all fringed ideologues have a right to be heard.....you likewise show me chapter and verse where the Constitution says only R's and D's have a right to be heard.......

[spacewarp]

Let's turn that ludicrous argument on its head for a second. Show me, chapter and verse, where the Constitution says only two parties are allowed to participate in the process?

Why are Libertarians "fringe"? Because the press, being a bought and paid for arm of the DNC, refuses to give them time of day. With so few differences between Bush and Kerry, it would be an amazing turn of events if a Libertarian was given actual air time in a national debate. The destruction of the two-party duopoly would be immediate.

Nowhere in our Constitution, or any of the founders writings does it say we should only have two parties.

Here's the bottom line. Nearly 40% of the people didn't vote last election. Why? Because they feel left out. They feel like their ideas are not represented. What would happen if they were? It would show a real change.

Paul