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Lottery winner shot to death by Seattle police
Houston Chronicle ^ | Associated Press

Posted on 10/13/2004 10:56:28 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry

SEATTLE -- A man shot to death by police outside a football stadium has been identified by his family as one of the winners of an $87 million lottery jackpot.

Rick Camat, 32, was shot early Sunday as dozens of people fled to avoid a fight outside a bar before a St. Louis Rams-Seattle Seahawks game.

Police alleged that Camat was carrying a handgun and fired at a car that was leaving the area. Authorities said he crouched behind another vehicle and pointed a handgun at officers.

Relatives insisted Camat only fired into the air to break up the fight and said officers never issued a warning before shooting him.

"He shot once in the air to scare people away. He didn't aim it at anyone," said Camat's brother, Brian, who was with him at the time.

Officer Debra Brown said the family's account "differs vastly from the statements of dozens of witnesses who were at the scene that evening."

The officer who fired at Camat remains on paid administrative leave. An internal police review and a court inquest are planned.

Camat was one of 13 Starbucks employees in Los Angeles who shared an $87 million California lottery jackpot in 2000.

He recently bought a house in Federal Way, a suburb between Seattle and Tacoma, relatives said. He previously used his share of the lottery winnings to buy a house for his mother and cars for his siblings.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; butlostlifeslottery; donutwatch
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1 posted on 10/13/2004 10:56:29 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry
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To: Leapfrog

Money can't buy you brains.


2 posted on 10/13/2004 10:57:19 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: mhking

Ping!


3 posted on 10/13/2004 10:58:21 AM PDT by JennysCool (Terrorism: Not a global test, John, but a pop quiz.)
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To: Leapfrog
Relatives insisted Camat only fired into the air to break up the fight...

Stoopid is as stoopid does.

4 posted on 10/13/2004 10:58:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Leapfrog

Wow. Amazingly enough, if I were to ever win the lottery, I plan on doing the exact same thing - because I'm a smart guy.


5 posted on 10/13/2004 10:58:49 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: Leapfrog

I hope he took a lump-sum distribution.


6 posted on 10/13/2004 10:59:28 AM PDT by RexBeach (Before God makes you greedy, he makes you stupid.)
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To: Leapfrog

So, does the officer get the man's remaining lottery winnings?


7 posted on 10/13/2004 10:59:44 AM PDT by rabidralph (Take responsibility for your life. Vote Republican)
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To: Leapfrog

I hope he took a lump-sum distribution.


8 posted on 10/13/2004 10:59:44 AM PDT by RexBeach (Before God makes you greedy, he makes you stupid.)
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To: Leapfrog

"He shot once in the air to scare people away. He didn't aim it at anyone,"


Why the heck did he pull the gun in the first place?! Why was he carrying a weapon? Did he have a carry permit?

Huge fight + police = trouble even without pulling a weapon. I just can't feel sorry for the guy, what he did was just plain stupid.


9 posted on 10/13/2004 10:59:47 AM PDT by ninergold3 ( The LORD watches over all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy. Psalm 145:20)
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To: Leapfrog
He probably should have left that handgun on the counter at the pawn shop, too.

But I'm only guessing here...

10 posted on 10/13/2004 10:59:58 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: Leapfrog

Wow, what are the odds of that happening?


11 posted on 10/13/2004 11:00:09 AM PDT by Radix (What turns orange in Sept., is carved up in Oct., and is thrown out in Nov.?)
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To: Leapfrog
Hmmmm, shooting into the air to break up a fight as the cops are arriving.

Yup, sounds like a good idea to me. This guy is a lottery winner and he is hanging out at a bar with a gun. Not what I would do with my winnings.
12 posted on 10/13/2004 11:00:10 AM PDT by Sabretooth (I'm not SabERtooth, I'm SabREtooth.)
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To: Leapfrog
It's Bush's fault!!
13 posted on 10/13/2004 11:00:53 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: Leapfrog
Police alleged that Camat was carrying a handgun and fired at a car that was leaving the area. Authorities said he crouched behind another vehicle and pointed a handgun at officers.

Relatives insisted Camat only fired into the air to break up the fight and said officers never issued a warning before shooting him.


Let's see. Cops on the scene. Idiot takes OUT a gun and pops a few caps. Yeah, cops EVERYWHERE will wait until they get hit before reacting. ANOTHER moron removed from the GENE POOL AND his kin will NOT get the lotto winnings. With any luck he'll have NOT reproduced himself and that is ANOTHER vote gone for Hanoi John!

SCHADENFREUDE FOREVER!
14 posted on 10/13/2004 11:01:03 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the VRWC. --Black Helo crewman. (I operate the Liberal tinfoil hat scanner.)
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To: Leapfrog

Sheesh! If I ever win the lottery, the last place I'm going to hang out is some divey bar before the game. Instead, I'll be sitting in my air-conditioned luxury box, drinking whatever I want with my friends.

What a doofus.


15 posted on 10/13/2004 11:01:42 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Leapfrog

~~Camat only fired into the air to break up the fight

this guy watched one too many westerns i guess.


16 posted on 10/13/2004 11:02:07 AM PDT by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: Leapfrog

I hope the cop that killed him yelled "Jackpot!".


17 posted on 10/13/2004 11:03:06 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: Leapfrog

Bullets drop, plus I bet he did not have a permit to carry a hidden weapon I bet.


18 posted on 10/13/2004 11:03:43 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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It was his lucky day before it wasn't his lucky day.


19 posted on 10/13/2004 11:04:05 AM PDT by Mayflower Sister
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To: Leapfrog

I hope he didnt reproduce


20 posted on 10/13/2004 11:04:20 AM PDT by skaterboy
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To: Shryke
>Amazingly enough, if I were to ever win the lottery, I plan on doing the exact same thing

I bet you'd have a
better gun than whatever
this loser carried!

21 posted on 10/13/2004 11:05:18 AM PDT by theFIRMbss (;-)
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To: Leapfrog

"Camat was one of 13 Starbucks employees in Los Angeles who shared an $87 million California lottery jackpot in 2000.

He recently bought a house in Federal Way, a suburb between Seattle and Tacoma, relatives said. He previously used his share of the lottery winnings to buy a house for his mother and cars for his siblings."

Let's see. $87 million is not really $87 million when put in present day dollars. Maybe $50 million.

Then divided by 13 = $380k. Taxes would reduce it to maybe $220k.

A nice sum but he bought two houses and how many cars? It looks like he spent it all. Not bad, but he may actully be deep in debt.


22 posted on 10/13/2004 11:05:27 AM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: A CA Guy

It will be interesting to see if he has a CCW...they are relatively easy to get in WA.


23 posted on 10/13/2004 11:06:23 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: A CA Guy
Bullets drop, plus I bet he did not have a permit to carry a hidden weapon I bet.

I would bet that if he did, the media would have made a point of it.

24 posted on 10/13/2004 11:06:28 AM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
Not bad, but he may actully be deep in debt.

The debt of course gets passed on to the surviving family members.

25 posted on 10/13/2004 11:07:51 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: Logic n' Reason
"It's Bush's fault!!"

I KNEW it!!!!
26 posted on 10/13/2004 11:09:22 AM PDT by melbell (groovy)
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To: WildTurkey

"Let's see. $87 million is not really $87 million when put in present day dollars. Maybe $50 million.

Then divided by 13 = $380k. Taxes would reduce it to maybe $220k.

A nice sum but he bought two houses and how many cars? It looks like he spent it all. Not bad, but he may actully be deep in debt."

That is 3.8 mil with taxes 2.2 mil. Sort of changes the dynamic. However the result was the same. Wife will have to borrow money to pay for his funeral.




27 posted on 10/13/2004 11:09:27 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: BurbankKarl

I take it the job he has before wasn't as a rocket scientist.


28 posted on 10/13/2004 11:09:28 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: WildTurkey
Let's see. $87 million is not really $87 million when put in present day dollars. Maybe $50 million. Then divided by 13 = $380k. Taxes would reduce it to maybe $220k.

You missed a zero, it would be $3.8 Million.
29 posted on 10/13/2004 11:09:32 AM PDT by IDRATHERNOT
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To: Leapfrog
Seattle cops have guns? How did that happen?
30 posted on 10/13/2004 11:09:48 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against "global testing.")
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To: Leapfrog

Mistake number 1).

Having a loaded firearm near a bar when people are partying.

Mistake number 2).

Not dropping his weapon and raising his hands when the law showed up.


31 posted on 10/13/2004 11:09:53 AM PDT by djf
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To: Leapfrog
I think he might have already received the money since he won it in 2000. He had probably already spent it.

Mary Champaine bought 13 tickets - one for herself and every employee at the Starbucks coffee shop she runs. She fronted the money for several absent workers, but didn't hesitate to split the jackpot 13 ways. The 53-year old manager recounted how her husband died of cancer last year, how she lost her job when retailer Fedco went under last year and how her son, 24, was shot and killed several years ago. The other winners include Rick Camat, 28; Leah Coley, 30; Dina Escobar; Arely Gaytan, 27; Keith Matthews; Moisha Oliver; and Keana Essex, 16, whose winnings will go to her mother Kellye Richard. Each will get U$6.7 million before taxes, over 26 annual payments. Magic Johnson is an investor in their Mid-City Starbucks.

32 posted on 10/13/2004 11:09:53 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Leapfrog

Nice Lady!



Mary Champaine bought 13 tickets - one for herself and every employee at the Starbucks coffee shop she runs. She fronted the money for several absent workers, but didn't hesitate to split the jackpot 13 ways. The 53-year old manager recounted how her husband died of cancer last year, how she lost her job when retailer Fedco went under last year and how her son, 24, was shot and killed several years ago. The other winners include Rick Camat, 28; Leah Coley, 30; Dina Escobar; Arely Gaytan, 27; Keith Matthews; Moisha Oliver; and Keana Essex, 16, whose winnings will go to her mother Kellye Richard. Each will get U$6.7 million before taxes, over 26 annual payments. Magic Johnson is an investor in their Mid-City Starbucks.


33 posted on 10/13/2004 11:10:12 AM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: BurbankKarl
It will be interesting to see if he has a CCW...they are relatively easy to get in WA.

We're talking about Liberal Seattle here. Liberals are against gun ownership by default. He had a concealed weapon, and the moment he fired that gun in public, he became a criminal. Criminals don't need permits for "concealed weapons".

34 posted on 10/13/2004 11:10:24 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: Eaker; humblegunner; Travis McGee

Money guns and lawyers........here's yer sign !


35 posted on 10/13/2004 11:10:27 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: A CA Guy

"I take it the job he has before wasn't as a rocket scientist."

He was a canvasser for the Gore campaign.



36 posted on 10/13/2004 11:10:56 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: WildTurkey
50mil divided by 13 would be 3.8mil btw =) but chances are he did blow it and was boke at the time of his death.
37 posted on 10/13/2004 11:11:18 AM PDT by Even Keel
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To: WildTurkey

Scratch the above post. I should have eaten lunch instead of posting.


38 posted on 10/13/2004 11:12:02 AM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: Leapfrog
Irony can be quite....ironic.

Next time something like this happens I propose we call it a "Camat".

39 posted on 10/13/2004 11:13:33 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Only Arnold would have the stones to say Nixon was the reason he was a Republican.)
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To: Even Keel

I know! I caught my error. And I even used a calculator!


40 posted on 10/13/2004 11:13:41 AM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I am saying, compared to CA, it is easy to get a CCW in WA.

Now, reading that this guy was an ex gang banger, he might have arrests which would have disqualified him during the background check.

I am sure it will come out.

Yippee Ki Yeah!


41 posted on 10/13/2004 11:13:59 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BigSkyFreeper

ROTFLMAO-Has to be one of the top 10 posts in FR history.


42 posted on 10/13/2004 11:14:26 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Only Arnold would have the stones to say Nixon was the reason he was a Republican.)
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To: ninergold3
I just can't feel sorry for the guy, what he did was just plain stupid.

What his family said he did is just plain stupid. In reality he probably did something even stupider, though -- like doing what the cops say he did.

Hate to say it, but it almost sounds like the family's looking to win a second lottery....

43 posted on 10/13/2004 11:16:52 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Leapfrog

I'm sorry, but when you start firing a gun, unprovoked, in public, you lose your status as a "Lottery Winner" and become an "Armed Assailant".


45 posted on 10/13/2004 11:18:12 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: WildTurkey
She fronted the money for several absent workers, but didn't hesitate to split the jackpot 13 ways.

I like her.

46 posted on 10/13/2004 11:18:31 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: WildTurkey

no worries =) I figured as much.

I do think your right in that he probably blew the winnings no matter how much he won.

No way was this guy smart enough to invest in his future.


47 posted on 10/13/2004 11:18:48 AM PDT by Even Keel
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To: Leapfrog
Worst.

Lottery.

Ever.

48 posted on 10/13/2004 11:19:29 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
We're talking about Liberal Seattle here. Liberals are against gun ownership by default.

Washington is a "shall issue" state for residents AND non-residents.

49 posted on 10/13/2004 11:19:46 AM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: r9etb

Yes, if you are going to blame the cops, you dont admit that he had a pistol and fired it....

what morons.


50 posted on 10/13/2004 11:20:21 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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