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Will Europe survive to year 2012? (A Must-read)
The Eurasian Politician | March 16, 2004 | Antero Leitzinger

Posted on 10/16/2004 6:15:33 PM PDT by TopQuark

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To: Gibtx

The dominant religion in the EU at this time is hard to say. Mostly Christian, but with the influx of Moslems pouring into Europe in about 20 years it will be Islam.
they intend to take over Europe by immigration. There are parts of Paris that are dominated by the Moslems and the police don't dare go into. They have spread all the way into Sweden. They've come in and taken the jobs that the Europeans will not do. Through high birth rates and increased immigration they'll control Europe in 20 0r 30 years. In London they are taking churches and turning them into Mosques.In Europe especially in France they are very anti-God and religion. To become part of the Euopean Union you have to totally divorce any mention of God from your government. In Europe you've got a bunch of wishy washy Christians, and fanatical Moslems. Some combination.


21 posted on 10/16/2004 7:00:36 PM PDT by Yankereb
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To: TopQuark

Interesting.


22 posted on 10/16/2004 7:00:37 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Yankereb

wont there be wars break out between now and then in the eu between the muslims and the other established religions.... wouldnt the governments have to do what spain did ..... destroy the current religious order.... ???


23 posted on 10/16/2004 7:06:05 PM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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To: TopQuark
If John Kerry would be elected president, his second term would be at its end in 2012.

2013. And that presumes he'd get elected a second time.

24 posted on 10/16/2004 7:08:02 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (How important a Senator can you be if Dick Cheney's never told you to "go [bleep] yourself"?)
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To: TopQuark

Would make a good "Twilight: 2012" (alternate setup for the old GDW "Twilight: 2000" role playing game) scenario. Interesting. BUMP!


25 posted on 10/16/2004 7:10:55 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: Gibtx

The year 2012 hasn't arrived yet.


26 posted on 10/16/2004 7:24:40 PM PDT by not-a-neocon
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To: not-a-neocon

really .......


27 posted on 10/16/2004 7:28:27 PM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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To: not-a-neocon

The good news is that at least Cigarette Smoking Man won't be around to save himself from the Invasion.

As far as Europe goes...they have always been a collection of squabbling kingdoms and the EU won't change that. "New Europe" is all too aware of what a Muslim takeover would mean, having been the ones to stop it in the past. "Old Europe" has parctically abandoned its original Christian heritage in the name of political correctness.


28 posted on 10/16/2004 7:34:17 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (John Kerry-for every decision, an equal and opposite indecision.)
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Political trends in the Western countries have been changing in waves. The right-wing 1950s were followed by the "new-leftist" shift of the 1960s and 1970s, and the "new-rightist" 1980s.

I'm curious as to what he means by "the Right-wing 1950's." During that decade, dominant political trends in the West seemed to have gravitated toward a sort of moderate conservatism. Movements such as "modern Republicanism" in the US and Christian Democracy in Europe, and trend-setters such as Dwight Eisenhower, Anthony Eden, Konrad Adenauer, Yoshida Shigeru, Alcide de Gasperi, and Robert Schuman can only be called "right-wing" if they are compared to the left-wing trends and trend-setters of later decades. Meanwhile, truly right-wing movements, such as the one led by France's Pierre Poujade, never made it into the mainstream of political life in the 1950's.

29 posted on 10/16/2004 8:44:18 PM PDT by Taft in '52
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I'm not too sure that there will be. Will the Europeans be willing to fight for anything anymore? They've become soft.
The majority of Old Europe has no religious grounding anymore. I think that there is more religious fervor in the Eastern block countries especially Poland which is extremly strong in their Catholicism. The communists couldn't destroy the Church there, and they knew better than to try.
Old Europe is dying and decaying from within. It won't take a war to destroy them, they've destroyed themselves. They stand for nothing, and a man who stands for nothing will fall for anything. Goodbye Old Europe.


30 posted on 10/17/2004 4:03:05 PM PDT by Yankereb
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i think you are right .... the rising star is china..... they will use the olympics to enter into a new era..... after they take tiawan .......


31 posted on 10/17/2004 4:28:59 PM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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