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Liz Cheney Demands Kerry Apology
NewsMax ^ | October 17, 2004 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 10/17/2004 7:40:47 AM PDT by Kaslin

In a face-to-face encounter with John Kerry's daughter Alexandra, gutsy Liz Cheney demanded an apology on Saturday for Kerry's decision to publicly identify her sister Mary as "a lesbian" to a presidential debate audience of millions.

Sitting right next to Alexandra while the two guested on ABC's "Good Morning America," the married mother of four said a Kerry apology "would be appropriate."

But Alexandra didn't stray from the Kerry campaign's edict that Mary Cheney's sexuality is "fair game," telling the Liz, "when you choose to be part of a campaign, you choose to make yourself public." The day before, top White House aide Mary Matalin also suggested it was time for Kerry to apologize - but so far the top Democrat refuses to acknowledge he was wrong.

The reaction to Kerry's "lesbian" outburst - and the way his campaign has mishandled it - has been overwhelmingly negative, with polls showing that, by a margin of two-to-one, Americans think he was wrong to "out" Cheney in Wednesday night's debate.

Some pundits thought that the gay-baiting ploy could be politically fatal, with WABC Radio's Monica Crowley flatly predicting on Saturday that it could "cost Kerry the election."

Even the Christian right - who team Kerry thought would be turned off to learn that a member of President Bush's political family is gay - has rallied to Mary Cheney's defense.

Columnist Zef Chafets noted in Sunday's New York Daily News, "Well-known political preachers like Jerry Falwell and James Dobson have gone out of their way to defend her right to privacy. Conservative radio talk shows and Web sites have been flooded with denunciations of Kerry and support for Mary."


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts; US: New York; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: apology; cheney; kerry; kerrysnotaniceman; lizcheney
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I can hear the press and the outrage if the president had said something negative about Kerry's daughters
1 posted on 10/17/2004 7:40:48 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I wouldve demanded that Fat Pig Edwards TELL ME TO MY FACE I was ashamed of my child.....where does she get off telling anyone how "they FEEL"......


2 posted on 10/17/2004 7:43:10 AM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: Kaslin

Y-E-S......


3 posted on 10/17/2004 7:43:36 AM PDT by traumer
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To: Kaslin

How does the John and Teresa consider Cheney's daugher's private life fair game but not consider their financial information, Kerry's divorce records and his military records fair game?


4 posted on 10/17/2004 7:44:46 AM PDT by boycott
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To: traumer

Some one should point out to Alexandra that if Mary Cheney is fair game so is the fact that her own father made her a bastard.


6 posted on 10/17/2004 7:46:11 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Vote Kerry! He knows what you've got and just who to give it to!)
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To: boycott

Or demanding that he sign the form 180 for the release of his records


7 posted on 10/17/2004 7:46:31 AM PDT by Kaslin (Stick a fork in Kerry, he is done)
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To: Kaslin
Even the Christian right - who team Kerry thought would be turned off to learn that a member of President Bush's political family is gay ...

Heh, heh...this guy has no clue into his opponents' thinking.

8 posted on 10/17/2004 7:47:20 AM PDT by sonofagun
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To: Kaslin

Exactly. The Bush's and Cheney's have more class, character and morals than to sink to the level of kerry/edwards. Liberals amongst other things are hypocrites!


9 posted on 10/17/2004 7:47:48 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: Kaslin

Can you imagine the outrage from the MSM/Kerry Campaign if anyone from the Bush campaign mentioned Kerry's daughter's anatomy in the see through dress? Or the obesity of Liz Edwards in relation to health care costs? They are campaigning, does that make those topics "fair game"?


10 posted on 10/17/2004 7:47:58 AM PDT by pieces of time (No longer the "silent" majority.)
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To: Kaslin
Some pundits thought that the gay-baiting ploy could be politically fatal, with WABC Radio's Monica Crowley flatly predicting on Saturday that it could "cost Kerry the election."

There is nothing a liberal politician could do that would be politically fatal, as long as the MSM is running interference. A better example of John Edward's "Two Americas) is nowhere to be found than the hypocracy of the media.

11 posted on 10/17/2004 7:48:01 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Kaslin
Kerry is a scumbag on the par with Bill Clinton at his 'best'. God bless Liz and Mary.


12 posted on 10/17/2004 7:48:05 AM PDT by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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To: boycott

Because they are both morally bankrupt.


13 posted on 10/17/2004 7:48:11 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: boycott

It is incredible that Alexandra Kerry has inherited the lack of core values from her father. She is a future doctor, just imagine her treating you and your loved ones. Liz Cheney should slap her on national TV for her stupid response.


14 posted on 10/17/2004 7:48:22 AM PDT by Jose Roberto
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To: boycott

Fantastic point! That should go to the MSM for follow-up...but don't hold your breath.


15 posted on 10/17/2004 7:49:05 AM PDT by pieces of time (No longer the "silent" majority.)
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To: Kaslin

No good thing can ever come from airing other peoples dirty laundry.

Obviously this is one of many things that JFkerry missed out on while attending boarding school.


16 posted on 10/17/2004 7:49:38 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: Kaslin

I wish I'd seen that!

btw, I believe the author got it wrong--Mrs. Cheney's first name is "Lynne."


17 posted on 10/17/2004 7:49:40 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To the "undecideds": Want some wood? Vote for GW November 2. You'll feel better.)
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To: renoroc

Yes that was her


18 posted on 10/17/2004 7:50:50 AM PDT by Kaslin (Stick a fork in Kerry, he is done)
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To: ShandaLear
Then this is fair game too....
19 posted on 10/17/2004 7:51:24 AM PDT by traumer
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To: ShandaLear
Some one should point out to Alexandra that if Mary Cheney is fair game so is the fact that her own father made her a bastard

I'm not sure I get that. Would you explain?

20 posted on 10/17/2004 7:52:13 AM PDT by VA40
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To: chiefqc
Because they are both morally bankrupt.

It's all in the family. Don't forget the clueless, arrogant hag he's married (up) to.

21 posted on 10/17/2004 7:53:07 AM PDT by kstewskis (BUSH-GIBSON 2004)
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To: proud American in Canada

That is correct, it is Lynne. Edwards' wife name is Elizabeth


22 posted on 10/17/2004 7:53:53 AM PDT by Kaslin (Stick a fork in Kerry, he is done)
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To: Kaslin

23 posted on 10/17/2004 7:53:57 AM PDT by etradervic (GLOBAL TEST? Kerry can't even pass the SMELL TEST.)
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To: Kaslin

am anti-kerry, but what's the BIG DEAL 'bout info that the V.P.'s child is homosexual?! it's kerry's political risk if he wants to make an issue of it, and likely be seen in a 'negative light'.


24 posted on 10/17/2004 7:54:03 AM PDT by 1234 (Border control or IMPEACHMENT)
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To: Kaslin

At this point, Mary Cheney should go on every single show. She should come out and say, "hey I am gay, so what."

Then she should say that she chose not to be a public figure but since the RATS chose to bring this up, kerry has to answer:

1. Why didn't he sign a 180
2. Why hasn't Terayzah given her tax records
3. Why didn't Kerry give up his senate seat
4. Why hasn't kerry shown up to any senate votews in over a year.

October Suprise?


25 posted on 10/17/2004 7:54:12 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: Kaslin

Even the Christian right - who team Kerry thought would be turned off to learn that a member of President Bush's political family is gay - has rallied to Mary Cheney's defense.

I'm not part of the ''Christian right'', but I've known about it for at least a year. It wasn't ''news'', but it was an invasion of privacy. Kerry doesn't know Mary Cheney & couldn't possibly have had her permission to talk about her sex life much less to presume to read her mind. OTOH, Kerry almost certainly knows Barney Frank & Barney Frank is a public figure.

26 posted on 10/17/2004 7:54:19 AM PDT by elli1
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To: traumer

27 posted on 10/17/2004 7:54:31 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Vote Kerry! He knows what you've got and just who to give it to!)
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To: ArmyBratCutie
I wouldve demanded that Fat Pig Edwards TELL ME TO MY FACE I was ashamed of my child.....where does she get off telling anyone how "they FEEL"......
Well said!! Unfortunately the MSM has almost totally ignored Mrs. Edward's insult and this issue is now lost in the blah, blah, blah rhetoric of "Kerry's plans" for this and that new governmental program.
28 posted on 10/17/2004 7:54:34 AM PDT by vox_freedom (Vote W, and then vote again!)
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To: renoroc
I wonder how the MSM would have reacted if the question had been about obeseity, and President Bush had said something about mrs edwards having a weight problem.

Was that the daughter that wore the see-thru dress that showed her flapjacks??

Yep. See it here.

29 posted on 10/17/2004 7:54:37 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Out of the mouths of democRATs come nothing but stupid words.)
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To: VA40

Had his marriage to her mother annulled.


30 posted on 10/17/2004 7:55:57 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Vote Kerry! He knows what you've got and just who to give it to!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

There is a speculation that this whole event is some strategic move... I don't get it.

Why would the DNC do it?? Wouldn't it be stupid of them?


31 posted on 10/17/2004 7:57:19 AM PDT by traumer
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To: proud American in Canada

btw, I believe the author got it wrong--Mrs. Cheney's first name is "Lynne."

I believe that ''Liz Cheney'' is the other Cheney daughter, Mary's sister.

33 posted on 10/17/2004 7:57:55 AM PDT by elli1
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When the Catholic Church annuled his marriage to his first wife...that left the two daughters "hanging out there" ...bastards!
34 posted on 10/17/2004 7:58:07 AM PDT by Two Dawgs
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To: vox_freedom

exactly!!...she was worse to me than Kerry....


35 posted on 10/17/2004 7:58:07 AM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: ShandaLear
Had his marriage to her mother annulled.

Hmmm...I bet he conveniently went to the same bishop(s) that annulled Kennedy's marriage. No wonder the Boston Diocese was so corrupt.

36 posted on 10/17/2004 7:58:33 AM PDT by kstewskis (BUSH-GIBSON 2004)
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To: Two Dawgs

Annulment of the marriage of parents has no bearing on the Church status of the children.


37 posted on 10/17/2004 8:00:08 AM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: VA40; ShandaLear
Some one should point out to Alexandra that if Mary Cheney is fair game so is the fact that her own father made her a bastard

I'm not sure I get that. Would you explain?

I believe what ShandaLear was refering to that Kerry had his first marriage annuled many years after his daughters had been born

38 posted on 10/17/2004 8:00:43 AM PDT by Kaslin (Stick a fork in Kerry, he is done)
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To: kstewskis

That's my point, If he wants to talk about Mary Cheney, then let's have a discussion about his first marriage in relation to family values. The screams from the left would be deafening.


39 posted on 10/17/2004 8:00:43 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Vote Kerry! He knows what you've got and just who to give it to!)
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To: Kaslin

Remember how the press decided Chelsea Clinton was not "fair game"?


40 posted on 10/17/2004 8:03:13 AM PDT by sionnsar (Cbs: "It's fake but true!" | Iran Azadi | Traditional Anglicans: trad-anglican.faithweb.com)
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>>>> OTOH, Kerry almost certainly knows Barney Frank & Barney Frank is a public figure

He could also have used his friend Gephart's daughter as an example. I completely think it was the wrong thing to do, but at some point if the Cheney's keep pounding this issue they will be asked to answer for their silence to Dr. Keyes' far more offensive comments.


41 posted on 10/17/2004 8:03:56 AM PDT by dubyain04jebin08and12
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To: renoroc
Was that the daughter that wore the see-thru dress that showed her flapjacks??

LOL! Or her Flip-Flops.

42 posted on 10/17/2004 8:04:09 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: sionnsar

Yes I sure do, but you need to know the left does not need to follow the rules


43 posted on 10/17/2004 8:06:24 AM PDT by Kaslin (Stick a fork in Kerry, he is done)
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To: elli1
I'm not part of the ''Christian right'', but I've known about it for at least a year. It wasn't ''news'', ...

elli1, I've known about since the Republican Convention of 2000 when the news commentator on the channel I was watching made a point of bringing this exact point up as the Cheney family was being seated.

It failed then to impact the polls and was quickly dropped by the MSM.

It will fail, again, to turn voters away from the Bush/Cheney ticket, but seems to be having an impact on the polls. Much to sKerry and the MSM's chargrin.

44 posted on 10/17/2004 8:07:10 AM PDT by woofer
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To: proud American in Canada

They Cheneys have four children? Who are the other two?


45 posted on 10/17/2004 8:07:15 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Kaslin

This would NEVER happen, but would we all not be delighted if Lynne Cheney had whipped out a copy of THAT photo of Alexandra and asked her, right on camera of the show, to autograph it as a memoir of the campaign?

This idea is but one (minor reason) I will never be elected Vice President!


46 posted on 10/17/2004 8:07:25 AM PDT by 2Fro
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Ya - and Kerry still won't apologize - its really backfired and I'm be happy if it costs him the election. Poor Alexandra has no idea why it wasn't appropriate for her father to say what he said. If President Bush had outed her sexuality, you can bet the Democrats and the liberal media would be all over it. Using the other opponent's children to score political points has always been regarded as being off-limits in a campaign. Americans know a political cheap shot when they see one.


47 posted on 10/17/2004 8:07:34 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mercat

This was LIZ Cheney, the married Cheney daughter.


49 posted on 10/17/2004 8:07:49 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: Kaslin

No, the interview was with Mary's sister. Not her mother, Lynne.


50 posted on 10/17/2004 8:08:35 AM PDT by republicangel
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