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Illegal Alien Invasion
Self ^ | 10/16/04 | Dick Bachert

Posted on 10/18/2004 7:06:56 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

“Houston (and Atlanta, LA, Boston, New York, etc., etc., etc.) – WE HAVE A PROBLEM!”

As this is written (in September, 2004):

1. We have over 15 MILLION illegal aliens in this country.

2. Another 3 MILLION pour over our “borders” each year.

3. Another 1.3 MILLION arrive legally.

4. Assuming these rates of increase do not rise – a tenuous assumption at best – our population will rise by an added 200 MILLION in less than 50 years.

5. Our current LEGAL citizen birth rate is level at approximately 2.3 per, just about a legal population replacement level.

If unchecked, our kids will not inherit the America many of us did: They will inherit an America more closely resembling the Third World disasters most of these illegals left behind. They are bringing – have BROUGHT -- that disaster here!

WHAT YOU CAN (MUST) DO – NOW!!

1. Write President Bush at president@whitehouse.gov , fax him at 202-456-2461 or call him at 202-456-1414 and DEMAND that he deport 13 million illegal aliens and ENFORCE OUR CURRENT, ON THE BOOKS NOW IMMIGRATION LAWS!

2. Contact YOUR Congressman and Senators and tell them that you’re mad as hell and won’t take it any more – ESPECIALLY since the 9/11 attack by 19 aliens – 18 OF WHOM WERE HERE ILLEGALLY! Go to their periodic town hall meetings and let them – and the OTHER citizens there – know that it’s time to move on this critical issue. BE SURE TO TELL YOUR SENATORS THAT YOU ARE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THE HOUSE VERSION OF H.R.10 (IMPLEMENTING THE 9/11 COMMISSION FINDINGS) AND DO NOT SUPPORT THE WATERED DOWN SENATE VERSION. (WWW.SENATE.GOV) (WWW.HOUSE.GOV)

3. Call Border Patrol head Asa Hutchinson at 202-282-8355 and DEMAND that his people maintain sweeps and continue rigorous enforcement by arresting illegal aliens – AND their employers!

4. Report illegal aliens working on a job-site to Immigration at 1-866-347-2423 (TOLL FREE).

5. Support organizations that enable impoverished people around the world to STAY in their own communities (where most of them would RATHER be) where they can create a decent living through entrepreneurship, training and seed money to start home grown businesses. A search on www.charitynavigator.com will help find them.

6. Support organizations that provide family planning resources and knowledge so that couples might have fewer children and provide a better life for their smaller families.

7. Support the call for a 10 YEAR MORATORIUM on ALL immigration so we can assimilate those already now here LEGALLY. After the moratorium, we must limit LEGAL immigration to 100,000 per year – and they MUST SPEAK ENGLISH BEFORE COMING HERE!

8. Speak out on the radio talk shows and write letters-to-the-editor on the subject – ESPECIALLY in rebuttal to stories and letters from the opposition.

9. VISIT THE FOLLOWING WEB SITES AND BECOME INVOLVED:

www.numbersusa.com

www.frostywooldridge.com

www.pan2004.com

www.johnandken@johnandkenshow.com

www.invasion@patriciasaye.com

www.teamamericapac.org

www.reportillegals.com

www.theamericanresistance.com (In Georgia)

Send an email to letters@numbersusa.com and ask for the name of the contact in YOUR state.

For illegal immigration BUMPER STICKERS, go to www.illegalimmigrationbumperstickers.com/illegal_stickers

AND, IF YOU’RE A BUSINESSMAN NOW HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS, HERE’S SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER:

While YOU may be realizing higher profits/cost savings by doing so, the costs to the nation as a whole -- “free” healthcare in the local ER, food stamps, the plethora of US welfare benefits, etc., etc., etc ad nauseum – are being passed on to the REST of us in the form of higher property and other taxes. More and more of us are ready to pay higher prices for whatever it is you’re selling than see that notoriously inefficient provider of such services – government -- do so. And rapidly growing numbers of us are becoming VERY tired of paying for YOUR lawlessness. And if the INS comes calling, the fines are substantial.

And DON’T LET THE PC POLICE SHUT YOU UP WITH CHARGES OF “RACISM.”!!

THIS IS NOT A RACIAL ISSUE: IT IS ABOUT FREEDOM – YOURS AND YOUR KIDS’ AND GRANDKIDS’.

AND, FINALLY, HERE’S ONE MORE THING YOU CAN DO:

SHARE THIS MESSAGE WITH EVERYONE IN YOUR PERSONAL NETWORK.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalaliens; lawlessness; nationalbankruptcy
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1 posted on 10/18/2004 7:06:56 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

My local congressman, Elton Gallegly, has been fighting this for years. Sadly, most republicans only pay lip service to the problem, even Bush.


2 posted on 10/18/2004 7:11:24 AM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: Dick Bachert; 06isweak; 100American; 100%FEDUP; 101st-Eagle; 101stSignal; 101viking; 10Ring; ...

Thank you! Illegal ~~~Ping~~~


3 posted on 10/18/2004 7:16:31 AM PDT by MistyCA (I think if you were to ask Edward's wife, who is fat, she would tell you she is being who she is...)
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To: Dick Bachert

It would be nice for the US to stay the same size. But, realistically, does anyone who is concerned about future national security want the US to be a quarter of the size (population-wise) of China 50 years from now? The only way -- only way -- that the US can remain the strongest country in the world is to boost its number of people. Period. Do it legally as much as possible, but don't fret about rest.

I apologize for telling such a truth on Monday morning.


4 posted on 10/18/2004 7:17:31 AM PDT by Elvis van Foster
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To: Dick Bachert

"Assuming these rates of increase do not rise – a tenuous assumption at best – our population will rise by an added 200 MILLION in less than 50 years. "

Ah, linear extrapolations are our friend! :P

There aren't enough Mexicans in Mexico for that to be true!


5 posted on 10/18/2004 7:18:41 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Dick Bachert
While YOU may be realizing higher profits/cost savings by doing so, the costs to the nation as a whole -- “free” healthcare in the local ER, food stamps, the plethora of US welfare benefits, etc., etc., etc ad nauseum – are being passed on to the REST of us in the form of higher property and other taxes

Then END all such programs - take away that incentive. I have no problem with those that want to enjoy our freedoms, I just don't want to support them to the detriment of my family.

6 posted on 10/18/2004 7:24:04 AM PDT by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler)
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To: Constantine XIII
Half a billion by 2050 is very doable given the fertility rates of new immigrants. Like it or not the vitality of a civilization is quite correletaive to population growth. Growth is good, stability is stagnation, and decline is decline. Look at Europe. Look at Europe in 2050.
7 posted on 10/18/2004 7:24:04 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Fatalis

I reckon you're right. I read that to say that the 200M would come from immigration alone.

But then, as you say, 200 million more Americans ain't necessarily a bad thing, on its own. :)


8 posted on 10/18/2004 7:25:34 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: MistyCA; 8mmMauser; Acela; afterhoursguru; AlextheWise1; AniGrrl; arepublicifyoucankeepit; ...

9 posted on 10/18/2004 7:28:56 AM PDT by SheLion (PLEASE vote! We can't afford to be silent!!!! Do we really want FnKerry to run our Country?!)
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To: Dick Bachert

A couple of corrections:

The estimated number of illegal aliens already here is closer to 31 million.

Per Bob Shieffer at the last Presidential debate, some 8,000 illegal aliens per week are crossing the border. That equates to more like 4.16 million new illegals per year.

But, we know they are only coming here to clean toilets at Holiday Inn. What 25 Chechnyans?????

On the bright side, Under Secretary of Homeland Security Department, Asa Hutchinson is shipping 300 per month back to Mexico. So, he's on the problem.


10 posted on 10/18/2004 7:30:15 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: Constantine XIII
200 million more Americans ain't necessarily a bad thing, on its own.

But I do think this wave of illegal immigration is a bad thing when there are simply so many of them that they do not assimilate into society (AND SPEAK ENGLISH) as prior immigrants have done in the past. Also, I have a big problem with the lack of enforcement of existing laws relating to illegal immigrants.

And when you look at how this impacts our national security in the war on terror, I think this is an even more important issue than ever.

11 posted on 10/18/2004 7:33:37 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: Dick Bachert; MistyCA

Bump!


12 posted on 10/18/2004 7:34:10 AM PDT by The Mayor (The Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Thanks SheLion, but I am hollding off till after the election for this one.


13 posted on 10/18/2004 7:37:39 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Dick Bachert

Thanks SheLion, but I am holding off till after the election for this one.


14 posted on 10/18/2004 7:37:59 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Dick Bachert
In 2001, soon after Bill Clinton was retired, he spoke at Georgetown Univ (IIRC) that spring. In that speech, he implied that the USA should 'play nice' with other nations, as we would not always be a Superpower and would eventually be a third-world nation hoping for handouts from the then superpowers. Madeline Albright has since made similar predictive statements.

[I wonder whether the USA is undergoing some dark, behind the scenes politicization? Is the USA undergoing a 'planned obsolescence'? We can certainly not sustain when professional jobs are being outsourced to India and elsewhere and millions of illegals are coming in to clean toilets and be subsidized in their health care, social services, and education by the remaining American taxpayer-workers.]
15 posted on 10/18/2004 7:38:04 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: TomGuy
The estimated number of illegal aliens already here is closer to 31 million.

Estimated by whom?

Per Bob Shieffer at the last Presidential debate, some 8,000 illegal aliens per week are crossing the border. That equates to more like 4.16 million new illegals per year.

That assumes each illegal alien crosses only once.

16 posted on 10/18/2004 7:38:10 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Elvis van Foster

The US and China (thanks to Bill Clinton, Mad Albright, Sandy Sam Samuel Sam I am I am Berger and Co.) will have a nuclear exchange in the next 10 years, greatly reducing the populations of both nations...


17 posted on 10/18/2004 7:39:30 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: MistyCA
"If unchecked, our kids will not inherit the America many of us did: They will inherit an America more closely resembling the Third World disasters most of these illegals left behind."

Deuteronomy Ch.6:Vv12-17
Then beware lest thou forget the LORD, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.
Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;
(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.
Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.

With the birthrate of US born Americans declining to below a level necessary to sustain the current population, does anyone doubt the truth in God's judgement?

18 posted on 10/18/2004 7:41:30 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: MistyCA

BTTT!!!!!!!!


19 posted on 10/18/2004 7:42:14 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Dick Bachert

"Assuming these rates of increase do not rise – a tenuous assumption at best – our population will rise by an added 200 MILLION in less than 50 years."

If you think traffic congestion is bad now, just wait. The best part is, most local and state governments can't afford to build new roads, and onerous regulations implemented since the 60s make building new roads even more expensive.

You'll get people saying that we need "smart growth" to avoid these problems--but their idea of "smart growth" has nothing to do with population and everything to do with roads and housing.

Enjoy living in your high-rise chicken coup in 50 years. It'll be fun, won't it?


20 posted on 10/18/2004 7:44:30 AM PDT by brianl703 (Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
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To: MistyCA

Thanks.

...you wan' frice wi' dot?


21 posted on 10/18/2004 7:44:45 AM PDT by wizr (God helps those who help themselves. But, God help those he catches helping themselves.)
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To: Elvis van Foster
"It would be nice for the US to stay the same size. But, realistically, does anyone who is concerned about future national security want the US to be a quarter of the size (population-wise) of China 50 years from now? The only way -- only way -- that the US can remain the strongest country in the world is to boost its number of people. Period. Do it legally as much as possible, but don't fret about rest."

Your position is just as screwy as Paul Ehrlich's, but from the opposite direction. What matters is trained brainpower, not bodies. We need to reform the education system to provide that, not engage in unbridled breeding.

22 posted on 10/18/2004 7:44:54 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Dick Bachert

WEELLLL....we support abortion and abort our future, we support the gay agenda which makes no future. We are eliminating ourselves much to the joy of the world. What do people think is going to happen...duh!!


23 posted on 10/18/2004 7:45:54 AM PDT by BriarBey
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To: azhenfud
There's no doubt that fence-straddlers are going hard darkness or bright light in these days...corporately, the nation is tenuously on the precipice of facing stern problems if we don't elevate the path and the conversation.
24 posted on 10/18/2004 7:46:43 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: TomGuy
...illegal aliens already here is closer to 31 million.

some 8,000 illegal aliens per week

...shipping 300 per month back to Mexico

Deporting less than 5% of new illegal aliens is no victory, but certainly better than under the Clinton Administration when it was policy to NOT deport them.

If 10% of the US population is illegal, the only way to sort the illegals from the legals is to establish a national ID card. The card must be used for voting, employment, emergency services, owning/renting property, attending school, opening a bank account, etc.

No card, no government services.

25 posted on 10/18/2004 7:47:20 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: TomGuy
...illegal aliens already here is closer to 31 million.

some 8,000 illegal aliens per week

...shipping 300 per month back to Mexico

Deporting less than 5% of new illegal aliens is no victory, but certainly better than under the Clinton Administration when it was policy to NOT deport them.

If 10% of the US population is illegal, the only way to sort the illegals from the legals is to establish a national ID card. The card must be used for voting, employment, emergency services, owning/renting property, attending school, opening a bank account, etc.

No card, no government services.

26 posted on 10/18/2004 7:48:11 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Fatalis
Analysis: 11 million illegals in the United States

Note that this article is dated 2001. If some 4 million new per year have been added, just based on this article, the number NOW would add another 16 million, for a total of 27 million.
27 posted on 10/18/2004 7:48:39 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: Dick Bachert

I think we're past the demographic/social/cultural tipping point, but like you, I'll struggle for our America.


28 posted on 10/18/2004 7:49:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Elvis van Foster
The only way -- only way -- that the US can remain the strongest country in the world is to boost its number of people. Period.

We would be increasing our population by 4,000 a day by rescinding Roe v. Wade. Then, we would have no need to import anyone.

29 posted on 10/18/2004 7:52:00 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Tai_Chung

Screw the National ID card.

This is an enforcement issue that does not freaking require a card.

There's a Constitutional way which is being discarded over laziness, ease, convenience and greed - a myriad of excuses.

B.S. to the ID card, YES to enforcement, prosecution and making example after example after example.

Unless, of course, Mexico wants to turn over their oil fields...and a few choice tracts of land. /s lol


30 posted on 10/18/2004 7:54:45 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Dick Bachert
from Center for Immigration Studies

The Costs of Illegal Immigration [August 25, 2004]
Illegals Cost Feds $10 Billion a Year; Amnesty Would Nearly Triple Cost


Among the findings:


31 posted on 10/18/2004 7:54:48 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: ApesForEvolution
...the nation is tenuously on the precipice of facing stern problems..

How so? The promise of Fox to secure Social Security benefits, even for illegals, before the American public was consulted by our paid professional politicians proves government isn't listening. Corporate America wants slave labor at taxpayer's expense and they want blanket amnesty for their felonious activities of the past. There's little support among "leaders" to curtail fraud and corruption of our system that hides illegals.

IMO, superficially it doesn't appear politicians and corporations want this problem addressed because it means a mess will be created for a short term and MANY hands will be caught in the cookie jar.

32 posted on 10/18/2004 7:59:04 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: TomGuy
Note that this article is dated 2001. If some 4 million new per year have been added, just based on this article, the number NOW would add another 16 million, for a total of 27 million.

You started with 31 million and you're now down to 27, and that's based on assumptions that each crossing since 2001 represents a new permanent illegal alien. That is a flawed assumption because many illegals cross back and forth. This problem won't be solved by throwing around different numbers from one minute to the next that are easily impeached.

33 posted on 10/18/2004 8:02:31 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: TomGuy
Am I right, those are only federal costs? IIRC, Illegals' costs to various state and local taxpayers push those estimates up to about $41 billion a year.

And it's growing.

34 posted on 10/18/2004 8:03:38 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Elvis van Foster
Some more Monday morning truths.

Decline of Military

Mass Immigration Cost American Taxpayers

Surge Of Socialism

U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

35 posted on 10/18/2004 8:04:51 AM PDT by B4Ranch (´´Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; They are our teeth for Liberty)
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To: azhenfud

I was speaking in a spiritual context as it manifests in the ongoing viability of America as a Great Republic of life and light...


36 posted on 10/18/2004 8:05:49 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: TomGuy

placemark


37 posted on 10/18/2004 8:07:24 AM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the semi-naked blogger Political Operative Brigade. To H#ll with pajamas!)
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To: Elvis van Foster
only way -- only way -- that the US can remain the strongest country in the world is to boost its number of people. Period.

Categorically false.

Boosting the population depresses wages which makes the multinationals and unscrupulous businesses that hire illegals happy.

Boosting the popluation as they have has bankrupted our schools system.

Boosting the popluation as they have has destroyed our medical system. California has lost 84 hospitals in the last few years, 24 are closing this year all because of EMTALA and illegals. What are you going to do when you need a trauma surgeon and you are told "just deal with it"? This medical rationing the like of which is ususally only seen in communist countries (like the former soviet Union) is a direct result of the policies of ill informed or traitorus politicians who curry favor with the multinationals and allow the unfettered flow of illegals in this country.

The flood of unassimilated people into our country and our voting booths has changed America-- people no longer defend liberty and freedom because they no longer follow the belief system of the founders. That is the death of America, not its strength.
38 posted on 10/18/2004 8:07:41 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: TomGuy

I think the answer to your question could be found by stdying the 'FTAA' which is being sold as another trade agreement but is really a Trojan horse for a new hemispheric union ala the EU. It's scheduled to go into effect next year and undoubtedly will affect how this country operates. Expect an assault on our Constitution and current legal system as being "outmoded" for the new realities. It's already happening in Europe where many folks have woke up to realize they've been sold out by their leaders to a new supranational governing body that's in the process of creating a new EU constitution that will reign supreme over that of any individual country.

It's going to be a real mess once we found out how bad we've been sized up, set up and sold out by our 'alleged' leaders. FYI, illegal immigration is just the conditioning process where the business and financial interests are signalling to us that they're planning on shoving it up our collective you know what's regardless of what we think.


39 posted on 10/18/2004 8:09:14 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: TomGuy
Because many of the costs are due to their U.S.-born children, who are awarded U.S. citizenship at birth, barring illegals themselves from federal programs will not significantly reduce costs.

My proposal would.

I would like to see it become mandatory that only a parent or legal guardian who is a U.S. citizen and has contributed to the Social Security trust fund for a minimum of twenty consecutive quarters may apply for taxpayer-funded benefits or services on behalf of their dependant children.

40 posted on 10/18/2004 8:10:37 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: ApesForEvolution

Oh, I see. And I agree.

There's a much larger prollem in America than we care to admit - I think it's wonderfully summarized in Deut. Ch.6....


41 posted on 10/18/2004 8:13:50 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Dick Bachert
Illegal Alien Invasion

3. Another 1.3 MILLION arrive legally.

Isn't this a contradiction???

Anyway, law enforcement is needed south of the border that doesn't bend to the whims of left-wing illegal alien flooding activists.

A sustainable population in 2050 should be about 420-430M approx. Anything substantially higher or lower would spell doom.

42 posted on 10/18/2004 8:15:56 AM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

The Democrats have got to stop blaming Bush for our manufacturing jobs going overseas. After all it was the Democrats who brought overseas into the United States to take our jobs. The Democrats started wars in Vietnam, Bosnia, and Somolia then brought refugees by the hundreds of thousands to fill our manufacturing jobs.

So, “Wake up America! Overseas is here, inside our country, taking our manufacturing jobs. Protest that! Protest the issuing of HB1 and HB2 Visas. No more HB1 and HB2 Visas should be issued for at least ten years. Americans need these jobs.”


43 posted on 10/18/2004 8:16:19 AM PDT by Sadie789
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To: hedgetrimmer
Do a little reading on the rise and fall of civilizations against population growth. Start with the river valleys 5000 years ago and work forward. Ascendent civilizations show population growth. Declining civilizations show declining populations.
44 posted on 10/18/2004 8:16:26 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Dick Bachert
By 2014 there will be 45 million illegal aliens in our country. Our elections will have become completely undermined, corrupted by then.

With the help of our government, they will have turned our elections into a three ring circus, of fraud and corruption. Watch what happens this coming election, and you can imagine what it's going to be like by 2014.

45 posted on 10/18/2004 8:18:58 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Tai_Chung
If 10% of the US population is illegal, the only way to sort the illegals from the legals is to establish a national ID card. The card must be used for voting, employment,

A good many, if not most, employers who hire illegals do so knowingly. A national ID card won't make a difference to them.

46 posted on 10/18/2004 8:22:24 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Dick Bachert
About 4,000 illegal immigrants are coming from Mexico EVERYDAY in California!!!
Nothing is being done. They overload the emergency rooms with their illegal and illegitimate children for stuffy noses and the bill is put on the hospitals. Hospitals and emergency rooms are closing in record numbers her in So. Ca. because of the non-insured illegal alien and the insured WORKER who is here LEGALLY and PAYS TAXES, doesn't have a hospital to go to because of it. This problem far exceeds the terror problem and nothing is being addressed.
I started telling the Republican Committee/fund-raisers I will not contribute unless someone makes a stand and helps stop this ambush.
47 posted on 10/18/2004 8:23:36 AM PDT by sonserae
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To: azhenfud
Corporate America wants slave labor at taxpayer's expense

The taxpayers are very happy to have cheap vegetables and cheap landscaping provided by slave labor.

48 posted on 10/18/2004 8:23:39 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Fatalis

Lets see, when a country is invaded with an alien population that is so large that their culture overcomes the existing culture, that country will fall. It hasn't to do with the numbers of people, it has to do with whether the culture has members that will keep it alive. So flood the country with people who have no concept of liberty and its preservation by a constitutional government, and voila! no more USA. This in fact, is what the globalists at the WTO want because then it can manage trade to the most minute detail (a concept championed by the Soviet Union by the way)and not have to deal with the unruly citizens of an independent nation. Its best for the WTO if we're all just consumers and don't have any affection for our nation, anyway.

Just because you can make a buck off of a flood of immigrants doesn't mean that it is going to help preserve your country. The two things are unrelated in that context.


49 posted on 10/18/2004 8:26:06 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: B4Ranch

On the Decline of Military charts...

Very deceptive charts. Scales on honest charts should always go to zero

Especially the third chart (Defense vs Human Resources)
- the axis of the scales on the two sides wouldn't match up at zero.

If we are spouting the truth then honesty must be everywhere. I'd suspect the liberals of making these kind of charts.


50 posted on 10/18/2004 8:28:11 AM PDT by George from New England
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