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Today Show: A New GOP Star is Born - Liz Cheney Pounds Mike McCurry into Submission!
The Today Show | governsleast governsbest

Posted on 10/21/2004 4:48:54 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

If it were a boxing match, they would have thrown in the towel. If it were a Little League game, they would have invoked the mercy rule. Unfortunately for hapless Kerry spokesman Mike McCurry, no such refuge was available, and he had to suffer a relentless, devastating, take-no-prisoners, never-back-down pounding at the hands of Liz Cheney, daughter of the Vice President. Wow! What a star was just [at least for this viewer] born. Where has she been?

Sometimes shows like Today concoct a theme for an interview and try to force their square guests into the round hole they have conceived. The topic today was the notion that both campaigns were exploiting the politics of fear.

But Liz would have none of it. "This isn't about trying to scare people. We are truly at war. This is about who has the strong leadership to win that war. Of course Kerry is forced to make tough statements now, but his words are contradicted by his record."

She continued: "Kerry has been on the wrong side of every major national policy issue over the last 20 years, from cutting $7 billion in intelligence after the WTC was bombed for the first time, to voting against the 1991 Gulf War, to opposing most of the weapons systems used to fight the war on terror."

Before describing McCurry's remarks, a few words about his looks. I don't know if he might be a baseball fan who stayed up to watch the game, or whether he was up all night putting out the fires from Teresa's "my experience is bigger than hers" gaffe, or whether it is simply the wear and tear of a long campaign, but I have never, NEVER, seen a political aide look this palpably tired on national TV.

Not only was his face haggard, but his eyes were so red-rimmed that one had to wonder if he had been on a crying jag. One thing is clear: being inside the Kerry campaign nowadays ain't a bowl of cherries.

In any case, McC claimed that "we took our eyes off the terrorists to divert to go to war in Iraq that is now causing so much pain. We can't go on with more of the same and need to change directions."

But soon it was back to Liz on the attack: "The 9/11 Commission found we're not safe, but we're safer than we were before 9/11. But with his talk of global tests and describing terrorism as a nuisance, one has to question whether Kerry really understands nature of challenge we face."

Katie tried to put Liz on the spot, quoting her father to the effect that the country could be more vulnerable to attack if Kerry were elected. If Couric thought that would put Liz on the defensive, she was badly mistaken. Liz didn't back down for a second: "Weakness invites attack. The policies Kerry/Edwards propose would take us back to 90s when we treated terrorism as a law enforcement and intellignece matter. They have sent signals of wavering."

When McCurry tried some wan retort, Liz cut him off at the knees: "The record doesn't match the rhetoric, Mike, the record doesn't match rhetoric."

Even when a defeated McCurry, on his knees, begging for mercy, tried to AGREE with Liz, she would give no quarter. By the end, McCurry was pitiably saying that when it comes to the need to pay attention to terror threats, "we agree about that."

"No, we disagree," retorted Liz!

This was the most lopsided, devastating rhetorical victory I have ever seen on Today. It made last night's sad [for this Yankees fan] shellacking look like a nail-biting cliffhanger.

Bravo, Liz, you are my new hero! Let's see more of her along the trail!


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An interesting little aside. At one point Joe Lockhart was shown on the screen from the little set inside the Kerry campaing we have all seen innumerable times. Over his left shoulder is a cardboard blow up of the Kerry/Edwards book, Our Plan for America. A photo of Kerry is visible on the cover. But it dawned on me that the cover actually shows Kerry and Edwards, yet Lockhart, and all the other Kerry surrogates speaking from the set, always strategically place themselves so as to block out Edwards' photo.

Check it out next time you see one of them speaking from the set. Here's the book cover with the photo of Edwards that you never see:


1 posted on 10/21/2004 4:48:55 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Today Show standing-eight-count ping.


2 posted on 10/21/2004 4:50:20 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

You are the second one to report about Liz Cheney this morning, it must of been something to see.


3 posted on 10/21/2004 4:51:19 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 (((John Kerry is in Full Retreat)))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What's Liz look like? Any pictures?


4 posted on 10/21/2004 4:51:19 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!


5 posted on 10/21/2004 4:51:35 AM PDT by The G Man (George W. Bush: "Got wood?")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Have you ever seen a bigger twinkie than John Edwards? The word 'simpering' comes to mind.


6 posted on 10/21/2004 4:52:16 AM PDT by Angry Enough
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To: AmericanMade1776

anyone have a video download yet?


7 posted on 10/21/2004 4:52:33 AM PDT by CT CONSERVATIVE (NOT FAIR-That's Dan's Story to Break!!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

sounds like a chip off the old BlockS. Great report.


8 posted on 10/21/2004 4:53:23 AM PDT by marty60
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

So was it LIZ Cheney or LYNNE Cheney???


9 posted on 10/21/2004 4:53:36 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Great report! Thanks.


10 posted on 10/21/2004 4:54:00 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Did Mike McCurry look like he had on mascara to you?? I swear these metrosexual libs. are getting into makeup and hairstyles!


11 posted on 10/21/2004 4:54:42 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
. . . but I have never, NEVER, seen a political aide look this palpably tired on national TV.

Maybe Mike is on the Teddy Kennedy diet:

12 posted on 10/21/2004 4:55:00 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Just in time for your Halloween gift giving needs: THE book.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

AND she is pretty! i didn't see this, i wait for your report on these things, but The divine Mr. O of loofah fame had her on last night and i was extremely impressed with her. i also just saw her credentials. U of Chicago Law. not too shabby at ALL!


13 posted on 10/21/2004 4:55:21 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Ken522

she is very pretty, IMO, looks like her mom.


14 posted on 10/21/2004 4:56:00 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: AmericanMade1776
You are the second one to report about Liz Cheney this morning, it must of been something to see.

I went over to the other thread and was interested to note that pugilistic metaphors are used there too. It was absolutely unmistakable: it was an absolutely earth-shattering KNOCKOUT!! Bravo, bravo, BRAVO LIZ CHENEY. To those fortunate to live in a time zone where Today hasn't come on, even if you have sworn never to watch the show, I urge you to do so. Trust me, it's more inspiring than Rocky, bloodier than Raging Bull.

15 posted on 10/21/2004 4:56:48 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: xsmommy

Liz Cheney is very pretty. She certainly favors her mom. Even her voice is similar.


16 posted on 10/21/2004 4:57:10 AM PDT by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Today Show: A New GOP Star is Born - Liz Cheney Pounds Mike McCurry into Submission!

She was also a killer on O'Really last night. She is a NATURAL. She gets in all the right points without looking like she is doing it!! She is a future STAR!

17 posted on 10/21/2004 4:57:36 AM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Nice to hear this report. The Today Show gets a big audience. Excellent!


18 posted on 10/21/2004 4:58:22 AM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

EXCELLENT! Thanks, GL.

Video download would definitely be appreciated...


20 posted on 10/21/2004 4:59:13 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Is it better than the Zell Miller speech at the RNC 2004?


21 posted on 10/21/2004 4:59:37 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 (((John Kerry is in Full Retreat)))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

For once, I wish I'd seen the Today show! I caught Liz Cheney on O'Reilly last night, and she was great, but the audience she'll reach on Today needs her more!


22 posted on 10/21/2004 4:59:58 AM PDT by maryz
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Bravo, Liz, you are my new hero!

You, by the way, are a hero for being able to put up with and watch these shows and pass along your assessments. (I thought I was on your ping list for this show)

;-)

23 posted on 10/21/2004 5:01:20 AM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
We can't go on with more of the same and need to change directions

ie Run away

24 posted on 10/21/2004 5:01:35 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
She continued: "Kerry has been on the wrong side of every major national policy issue over the last 20 years, from cutting $7 billion in intelligence after the WTC was bombed for the first time, to voting against the 1991 Gulf War, to opposing most of the weapons systems used to fight the war on terror."

Before describing McCurry's remarks, a few words about his looks. I don't know if he might be a baseball fan who stayed up to watch the game, or whether he was up all night putting out the fires from Teresa's "my experience is bigger than hers" gaffe, or whether it is simply the wear and tear of a long campaign, but I have never, NEVER, seen a political aide look this palpably tired on national TV.


OUCH!!!
25 posted on 10/21/2004 5:02:17 AM PDT by igoramus987
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To: AmericanMade1776
Is it better than the Zell Miller speech at the RNC 2004?

Different format of course, with Liz having two opponents - Katie and Mike - in the ring. To continue with the boxing theme, I'd put it this way: she's the country's best political fighter pound-for-pound.

26 posted on 10/21/2004 5:02:29 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...
This should brighten your morning........PING
27 posted on 10/21/2004 5:03:53 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: beyond the sea

Sorry, I make my posts from two different computers and sometimes don't have up to date ping lists on both. You're back!

If anyone would like to be added to my ping list for reports on liberal bias at The Today Show and occasionally on other shows, please let me know by post or private message.


28 posted on 10/21/2004 5:04:16 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
For those of us whom have never seen her.

Strikes me as the kind of lady that you would be proud of your son to bring home. She does not have that "hardened" look that so many libs and feminists have.
29 posted on 10/21/2004 5:04:52 AM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
OK, did anyone tivo this and stream it on the Internet yet? I WANT TO SEE IT! SHEESH! Sounds almost as good as when Coulter ambushed Katie a while ago...
30 posted on 10/21/2004 5:05:47 AM PDT by AbramsGunnerE5
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To: igoramus987

The today show only allows those to speak who they believe will be lightweights (Jonh McCain, ect.). This is great! I bet they had no idea what was in store for them, and she used their commie show to beat McCurry into submission.


31 posted on 10/21/2004 5:06:44 AM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Is the Republican attack machine an assault weapon?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Wow! What a star was just [at least for this viewer] born. Where has she been?

Working at the same place I currently work: Coors Brewing Co.
32 posted on 10/21/2004 5:07:11 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (I FINALLY updated my FReeper page! Click on my name and see how you can help our President!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Fascinating report. What a contrast with that child of a great parent, Ron Reagan. Thanks for the post!


33 posted on 10/21/2004 5:07:12 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (Global test for OUR national security??? H$## NO!)
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To: Ken522

Liz Cheney

34 posted on 10/21/2004 5:07:37 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"One thing is clear: being inside the Kerry campaign nowadays ain't a bowl of cherries."

I would have to say instead of a bowl of cherries, it's a trash can full of pits!!


35 posted on 10/21/2004 5:08:24 AM PDT by borntobeagle (International (Global) Test to begin. Please take out your #2 pencils.)
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W stands for WOMEN!!! Strong Republican women! Yeah!


36 posted on 10/21/2004 5:08:31 AM PDT by God'sgrrl (W stands for Women!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks for the heads up. Central time zone here...i'll be watching for Liz.


37 posted on 10/21/2004 5:08:49 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Not surprising at all. Dick Cheney is a very smart man, high IQ type. Much smarter than his opponents. The acorns don't fall far from the tree.


38 posted on 10/21/2004 5:09:50 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Always ask yourself, does this pass the Global Test?)
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To: AbramsGunnerE5
Sounds almost as good as when Coulter ambushed Katie a while ago.

I saw the Coulter interview, and IMHO Liz Cheney was much better.

The Coulter thing was more of a catfight. This was a determined, relentless, substantive rhetorical beating that left a battered McCurry, on his knees, the blood streaming down his face from cuts over both eyes, whimpering to his corner for cover.

39 posted on 10/21/2004 5:09:55 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What part of the first hour was she on? I have the Atlanta stations feed on my satellite so I can catch the delayed broadcast but don't want to watch any more of the show than I have to ;)


40 posted on 10/21/2004 5:10:08 AM PDT by rightazrain ("John, go to your room!," the Portuguese Martha Mitchell screeched.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Any mention of the heinz-kerry pickle from yesterday?


41 posted on 10/21/2004 5:10:16 AM PDT by mombonn (kerry . . . he spent 20 years in the Senate and doesn't have much to show for it. íViva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I appreciate your contentful reviews. (Far better than a headline, and just an "Ooh! Did you see that? Wow! Whoa!")

Dan


42 posted on 10/21/2004 5:11:03 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: raybbr
I believe she has 4 children. With her parents, it's no surprise how smart she is. Of course, does she have a "real job"???? That is the question we all want to know.
43 posted on 10/21/2004 5:11:15 AM PDT by Mayflower Sister
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To: RandallFlagg
Where has she been?

Working at the same place I currently work: Coors Brewing Co.

Definitely a day to hoist one of the Rocky Mountain's finest in her honor. [And Go Pete!]

44 posted on 10/21/2004 5:11:25 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Liberty Valance

Please let us know what you think.


45 posted on 10/21/2004 5:11:53 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Here she is:

And an excerpt from Al Ahram:

At her office at the State Department, US Deputy Assistant Secretary for Near Eastern Affairs, Liz Cheney, is busy hanging up front pages of newspapers which mark the fall of Baghdad to US forces on 9 April. "Hussein's Baghdad falls", reads one headline above the famous picture of the statue of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein being pulled down by a US tank surrounded by several hundred Iraqis. Like other members of the US administration, 36-year-old Cheney believes that the fall of the former Iraqi regime and "establishing Iraq as a stable, democratic and prosperous nation" are crucial for the rest of the region.

Liz, daughter of US Vice-President Dick Cheney who is known as a key hard-liner in the Bush administration together with Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, has been supervising the implementation of the Middle East Partnership Initiative (MEPI), officially announced by Secretary of State Colin Powell in December. The aims of the initiative, which received an initial funding of $29 million in 2002 and $100 million for 2003, are to provide support for "economic, political, and educational reform efforts in the Middle East and champion opportunity for all people of the region, especially women and youth".

46 posted on 10/21/2004 5:12:04 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: rightazrain

I believe it was the first interview up. Should be on right now.


47 posted on 10/21/2004 5:12:27 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Angry Enough
...Have you ever seen a bigger twinkie than John Edwards? The word 'simpering' comes to mind....

You've seen the video of Edwards "attending" his hair, right?

48 posted on 10/21/2004 5:12:41 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Proud FReeper since 1998. Proud monthly donor.)
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To: All
"we took our eyes off the terrorists [in Afghanistan] to divert to go to war in Iraq that is now causing so much pain."

BULL S*!T..

If you haven't read this book yet, go buy it. It's a great description of what went on in the WOT starting just after 9-11-01.

Amazon link


Hummmm and what did Tommy Franks just say?......


49 posted on 10/21/2004 5:13:26 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: mombonn

I just heard from another Freeper that the Teresa's comment is getting heavy radio play this morning in Michigan. By the way, a new poll just came out indicating Bush is up by 5 in Michigan. I believe the Detroit Free Press might have the story.


50 posted on 10/21/2004 5:13:45 AM PDT by conservativepoet
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