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October Surprise Foiled
Neal Nuze ^ | 10/26/04 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 10/26/2004 4:39:51 AM PDT by NotchJohnson

OK .. I GET A BIT "I TOLD YOU SO TODAY"

Yesterday the news broke about 380 tons of explosives that disappeared in Iraq. The International Atomic Energy Agency was raising quite a fuss over this, as was the American mainstream media. Boy oh boy, did the media love this story. After all, it really looked bad for Bush, didn't it? ABC and CBS hammered the story, as did MSNBC. But CNN? Wow! Did CNN love this story. They covered it at least 50 times yesterday.

Then, of course, we had the Kerry campaign jumping on the story. The Poodle called it one of the greatest blunders of Iraq. He slammed Bush for, as he put it, "failing to guard" the stockpile of explosives.

In yesterday's Nealz Nuze I wrote the following:

The IAEA says that they were monitoring the explosives prior to the war. Now they're gone. The IAEA doesn't know when they disappeared. They can't say that Saddam didn't remove them before the American invasion. They can't say that Saddam's soldiers didn't move them to another location after the invasion began. They just don't know.

Oh, you should have seen the email. I was a Bush crony. I was making weak excuses for Bush's failures in Iraq. I didn't do my homework. I was lying. Blah blah blah.

Well ... here's your "I told you so."

Last night we get a report on NBC news that the explosives were already missing when U.S. troops arrived at the storage location on April 10, 2003. The last time the IAEA saw the explosives was three months earlier in January of 2003. There is no way to know just when the explosives were removed. Sometime after the IAEA saw them in January and before American troops got there in April. Obviously this isn't a case of Bush failing to "guard" the explosives. By the time our troops got there they weren't there to guard. In other words, nobody failed to guard anything and there was nothing we could have done about it. They were gone when we got there.

Well .. .hold on. There is something we could have done about it. We could have invaded earlier! Get in there before the Iraqis had a chance to hide the explosives! Is that what the Kerry supporters are saying we should have done?

This was a "get Bush" story from the beginning. There have been some problems between the Bush White House and the head of the IAEA. This was supposed to be the "October Surprise." Drudge is reporting this morning that CBS was hoping to run with this story on Sunday's 60 Minutes ... two days before the election. The New York Times beat them to the punch ... and, unfortunately for the designs of the leftist press, in time for the truth to come out.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; october; raq; weapons
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Man that sucks that our military isn't embarassed from this. Could have been a Kerry victory while at the same time making the US look inept. (Sarcasm)
1 posted on 10/26/2004 4:39:51 AM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: NotchJohnson

CBS is ignoring the NBC story.


2 posted on 10/26/2004 4:41:51 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: NotchJohnson

Nothin' like a good game of rope-a-dope.


3 posted on 10/26/2004 4:41:58 AM PDT by RockinRight (Bush's rallies look like World Series games. Kerry's rallies look like Little League games.)
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To: dr_who_2
CBS is ignoring the NBC story.

Since when does truth matter to CBS?

4 posted on 10/26/2004 4:42:48 AM PDT by RockinRight (Bush's rallies look like World Series games. Kerry's rallies look like Little League games.)
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To: NotchJohnson
Howard Wolfson and Jamie Reuben were on Fox and Friends this morning bobbing and weaving. Wolfson said, "there were still questions.." and Reuben was trying to change the subject.

Some days it stinks to be a flack.

5 posted on 10/26/2004 4:44:09 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: RockinRight

Yes, the MSM is trying hard to ignore it. Fox News and Friends was outraged by the terrible reporting by the NYT. We'll see what Poodle and Breck Girl say, but if i were Bush I would hang this goose around Kerry as evidence of his lies and as evidence of saying and doing anything to get elected.


6 posted on 10/26/2004 4:45:22 AM PDT by Jose Roberto
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To: NotchJohnson
NYT is still flacking the story on their front page. They are going to ride this horse into the dirt, just like CBS with the fake documents.

When your enemy is beating himself up, get out of his way.

7 posted on 10/26/2004 4:45:26 AM PDT by SW6906
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To: RockinRight

CBS won't do any retracting. They are still sore from Memogate. It is the NYTimes who has the most online. I think all they will do is keep spinning the story and hope something else turns up or let it fizzle.


8 posted on 10/26/2004 4:46:26 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I detest those two flacks.....they are both Clinton bathwater drinkers.


9 posted on 10/26/2004 4:47:14 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NotchJohnson

10 posted on 10/26/2004 4:47:54 AM PDT by gridlock (BARKEEP: Why the long face? HORSE: Ha ha, old joke. BARKEEP: Not you, I was talking to JF'n Kerry!)
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To: RockinRight

Exactly.


11 posted on 10/26/2004 4:48:13 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2

"CBS is ignoring the NBC story"

From what I hear this a.m., NBC is ignoring the NBC story.


12 posted on 10/26/2004 4:50:09 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Ann Archy

With a cluster, but they did pull in their horns and tried to
talk about other issues. I wonder how hard Kerry will hit this today, if at all.


13 posted on 10/26/2004 4:50:13 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: NotchJohnson

The NY Times was so anxious to help Kerry in this campaign that they released this stale information a week too early. If they released it next Sunday, it might have had an effect since there would be almost no time to refute it.


14 posted on 10/26/2004 4:50:48 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: dr_who_2

Watching the Today Show this morning, it appears NBC is ignoring NBC's story.

Matt to Tim: "How does this 'missing weapons' story affect the election?"

Tim to Matt: "It affects it a lot, Matt. It dominated yesterday's news cycle and allows the Kerry team to put Bush on the defensive."


15 posted on 10/26/2004 4:51:10 AM PDT by Jhensy
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To: All

dem response: LALALALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOUUUUU LALALALALAA!!!


16 posted on 10/26/2004 4:51:11 AM PDT by Casaubon (huh??)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

He won't!


17 posted on 10/26/2004 4:52:05 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: EnquiringMind

You beat me by 61 seconds.


18 posted on 10/26/2004 4:52:28 AM PDT by Jhensy
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To: Ann Archy

Not only that but they know Clinton always pee'd in the tub.


19 posted on 10/26/2004 4:54:15 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: NotchJohnson

Fox and Friends discussed this. Mentioned NBC embed who was with the Army, and mentioned that the IAEA guy had told the UN BEFORE the war. The story is on the front page of the NYT, without the NBC report.


20 posted on 10/26/2004 4:55:43 AM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: RockinRight

This was a blatant attempt by the U.N. to influence our election. Time to kick the U.N. out of the U.S.


21 posted on 10/26/2004 4:55:47 AM PDT by marty60
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To: NotchJohnson
Did CNN love this story. They covered it at least 50 times yesterday.

Now that the public knows that these news outlets are dedicated to a one party system, what should we do with them after the Democrats loose this time?

They are sacrificing security for one party. Something needs to be done.

22 posted on 10/26/2004 4:56:21 AM PDT by alrea (Help wanted: Director of Homeland Security, New Jersey. Must be willing performer and cute.)
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To: NotchJohnson
There is no way to know just when the explosives were removed.

I distinctly remember hearing media reports from Iraq in the opening phase of the invasion about long convoys of heavy trucks heading from Baghdad to the Syrian border. I haven't heard anything, or very little anyway, about that since early in the war. I still believe Syria has most of Saddam's munitions, including WMD, hidden somewhere in that country.

23 posted on 10/26/2004 4:58:14 AM PDT by epow
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Jamie Rubin was saying on Fox and Friends that the problem was we did not send in enough troops. Then, he was arguing that Bush should have overrode his commander on the ground. I mean these guys are desperate. And, the more they talk about insufficient troops, the more it sounds like the Demos would consider a draft.


24 posted on 10/26/2004 5:00:59 AM PDT by Pinetop
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Howard Wolfson and Jamie Reuben were on Fox and Friends this morning bobbing and weaving.

Chad "Chucky" Clanton would have continued to act as if the story were true and Lawrence O'Donnell would have screamed "liar" for 3 minutes. They sent out the wrong crew.

25 posted on 10/26/2004 5:01:50 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: alrea

Any suggestions? The suggestions I have can't be posted lest the FBI come and arrest me. Not that I would personally do anything (disclaimer) but I can at least use my imagination can't I? ;-]


26 posted on 10/26/2004 5:02:26 AM PDT by dmw
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To: NotchJohnson
"Obviously this isn't a case of Bush failing to "guard" the explosives. By the time our troops got there they weren't there to guard."

Another CLASSIC case of guilt by accusation. The truth didn't matter, only the accusation. And once again, the MSM jackals run full tilt with the story, without adequate corroboration, as long as they had any chance of smearing President Bush. The decades long practice of MSM lies, smears, and propaganda against Republicans continues.

27 posted on 10/26/2004 5:02:33 AM PDT by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: Pinetop

The old change the subject play. Rubin is a smooth one. The casual listener may not have noticed except for the Fox and Friends crew pounding on them.


28 posted on 10/26/2004 5:04:02 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: mathluv

Actually, the story was on the front page of the Times yesterday, and today there is no mention of the story or the NBC findings...


29 posted on 10/26/2004 5:04:43 AM PDT by danneskjold (All balloons, what the hell! There's nothing falling! What the f%#@ are you guys doing up there?)
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To: dr_who_2

Re: CBS ignoring the NBC story--

Sounds like NBC is ignoring the NBC story! Based on that previous post about today's Today show, Tim Russert is still referring to the missing weapons as an embarrassment. No mention of the discovery that they were missing *before* the US got there.

Speaking of surprises, if I were Rove and Gillespie I think I would send out some subtle warnings to the Kerry people that they will be unleashing some dirt of their own if the Dems have any dirty tricks up their sleeves in the next 5 days.


30 posted on 10/26/2004 5:06:04 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Stentor

After Pat B. read the this won't happen again letter on air at the end of Scarborough last night, I think O'Donnell will lay low. I don't think he can come out swinging so soon after his wrist slap.


31 posted on 10/26/2004 5:06:33 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: sgtbono2002
"Not only that but they know Clinton always pee'd in the tub."

While he's taking a bath as well!!

32 posted on 10/26/2004 5:20:09 AM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (White House belongs to Bush)
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To: NotchJohnson

Nice.


33 posted on 10/26/2004 5:20:49 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: NotchJohnson

Whoops, Democrat media caught with political pants down, Clinton style!

With only a week to go before the election liberal media provides bogus report to Democrat’s delight.
More than outrage, American citizens are awakening this morning to an emotion not yet described. Fearfully stated, never during a national election season has such deception and propaganda been purposely perpetrated on American citizens. It is apparent that media sources both large and small, all across the nation decided to take the election’s outcome into their own hands through any means possible. With urgency, they placed an unsubstantiated story into the mix, hope against hope it would make a difference in seeing to the demise of President Bush.

Without waiting for the CBS’s 60 Minute program to break the tale on October 31, New York Times provided bogus story for desperate Democrats. John F. Kerry and former President Clinton pompously strolled onto the stage yesterday, arrogantly informing their supporters that under President Bush’s watch a huge cache of explosives vanished from site in Iraq. The problem, his words were false, the cache had vanished from site before troops arrived. How do we know this? NBC embedded reporters that arrived on the scene with US troops during the war found no cache of explosives as described.

Just when is a lie not a lie? How perfect that Clinton’s appearance and this national lie would arrive on the same day.

Will we allow Democrats and their national media to steal our vote and voice? Please consider this unprecedented fraud a tool of destruction and vote against it with great gusto. The Democrats with support of the media must not be the victor in this game of deceit.





34 posted on 10/26/2004 5:21:09 AM PDT by ShelleyAa
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To: NotchJohnson

Send NY Times editorial fraud complaints to:

retrace@nytimes.com


35 posted on 10/26/2004 5:21:43 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: dr_who_2
"CBS is ignoring the NBC story."

THIS FREAKIN NETWORKS ARE CORRUPT!!!!

My God, they all run this story relentlessly all day!!!! Then when I heard on Rush that this was very old news, I was like WTF! These networks have got to know this.
So it finally starts getting out how distorted this news is, and they are OBVIOUSLY (in their corrupt bias) going to ignor it.

I'm done believing the Mass Media has a simple difference in political perspective. There is no innocent mistakes here. I have seen enough now that I firmly believe that these networks are intently corrupting the political affairs of our nation.
36 posted on 10/26/2004 5:21:50 AM PDT by z3n
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To: dr_who_2

MSNBC is ignoring the NBC story.

So is FOX.


37 posted on 10/26/2004 5:24:40 AM PDT by G Larry (Support John Thune!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Well don't forget, it's the "seriousness of the allegations" don-cha know. Kinda reminds me of Little Juan Williams on FNS talking about how Bush has to "respond" to CBS' made-up National Guard allegations.


38 posted on 10/26/2004 5:24:53 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: NotchJohnson

Looks like we should have invaded Iraq sooner.


39 posted on 10/26/2004 5:26:07 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Jose Roberto
"...if i were Bush I would hang this goose around Kerry as evidence of his lies and as evidence of saying and doing anything to get elected."

If this gets as big as CBS memo-gate, anything Kerry says about Bush now will be discredited. Bush would be October surprise proof!
40 posted on 10/26/2004 5:26:16 AM PDT by keats5 (.)
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To: G Larry

That is not true about Fox. They have been pounding on this all morning.


41 posted on 10/26/2004 5:27:02 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: NotchJohnson
The facts are real and there is no doubt the so called "Mainstream Press" is in the back pocket of the Democrat Party and they are promoting their agenda for them. I have a habit of Channel surfing and last night all you could see when thumbing through the so called "MSM" stations were Democrat operatives.
This B. G. Burkett has the press nailed. For those of you who do not know him he is the guy who wrote Stolen Valor and I believe I am going to order this.
America has covered up long enough for the Communist that have infiltrated our government and if we do not take America back we will surely go the way of the old Soviet Union.
42 posted on 10/26/2004 5:27:28 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: TNCMAXQ
Sounds like NBC is ignoring the NBC story! Based on that previous post about today's Today show, Tim Russert is still referring to the missing weapons as an embarrassment. No mention of the discovery that they were missing *before* the US got there.

That is exactly what I heard this morning. NBC/MSMBC are slanting their OWN story for Kerry. They have dropped mention of the timeline! And are heavy on the emphasizing the missing part and how embarrassing it is!

43 posted on 10/26/2004 5:29:36 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (I'm just a guy sitting in my living room in my pajamas...)
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To: z3n

The MSM is starting its final push to elect Kerry. We will start hearing the talk that momentum has swung in the direction of Kerry and the media-sponsored polls will start reflecting a Kerry shift. There is no objectivity, just bias and partisanship from the MSM. It is a sad state of affairs.


44 posted on 10/26/2004 5:29:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: EnquiringMind
From what I hear this a.m., NBC is ignoring the NBC story.

That's exactly what I said to Hubby.

45 posted on 10/26/2004 5:31:35 AM PDT by Samwise (If you want to understand the differences between the two parties, study the nature of their enemies)
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To: G Larry
I just saw a complete segment on the missing exp on MSNBC at the top of the hour. Jim M. NBC Pentagon clearly pointed out that the stuff was missing when the 101st got there and that the IAEA had lost track about three months before.
46 posted on 10/26/2004 5:32:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Frell Stark , this is the other side. I was hoping to go back.)
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To: NotchJohnson
Even if the explosives weren't there in the first place, it doesn't make any difference because this is all Bush's fault anyhow. John Kerry could have done it smarter. Wiser. More thoughtful. Better. With real allies. With the world behind him.

My gosh, I can hardly wait until this election is over so we can get on with the lawsuits, recounts and screams of rage from the Left!

47 posted on 10/26/2004 5:32:33 AM PDT by Gritty ("You gotta start travelling with a bodyguard. Liberals are out of their minds!-Ann Coulter)
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To: danneskjold

ED held up the paper. I thought she said it was today's.


48 posted on 10/26/2004 5:33:06 AM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Glad they caught up!

They missed last night, long after it was available.
(I knew, why didn't they)


49 posted on 10/26/2004 5:33:52 AM PDT by G Larry (Support John Thune!)
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To: G Larry

Fox doesn't have anything on the web page yet, BUT the Fox and Friends team is hammering the NYT lie with the corrected information from NBC quite a bit, this morning.


50 posted on 10/26/2004 5:35:14 AM PDT by Judith Anne (The last time Kerry said "Reporting for duty!" he betrayed his comrades, his flag, and his country.)
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