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Kerry Has One-Point Lead Over Bush - Reuters Poll (Zogby)
Posted on 10/30/2004 4:21:31 AM PDT by mmsturm
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To: mmsturm
Shaping his own polls to try to cover his own predictions. Todays other polls will only reaffirm what yesterday told us. Bush is up to stay.
To: narses
Checked it out earlier. Thanks for the post. If the folks here want to get a good "layman's" analysis of the pollsters they should go to:
JayCost
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posted on
10/30/2004 4:34:26 AM PDT
by
rjmeagle
(Future Generations Will Say the Republican Party is the Party of Lincoln and GW Bush!!!)
To: mmsturm
Let the dummy make it appear the Prez is down. I think the base was pretty well rallied yesterday along with quite a few undecideds. No worries.
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posted on
10/30/2004 4:34:45 AM PDT
by
numberonepal
(Cameras, ammo, arms, eyes, and ears on election day. bringyourcamera.com)
To: numberonepal
To: mmsturm
*I sure do dis-trust this guys polling.*
You're not alone. Experts in the bussiness have questioned Zogby's methodology. shrug.
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posted on
10/30/2004 4:37:18 AM PDT
by
Fenris6
(3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
To: jporcus
"That's what Kerry's Soros' millions is buying from Zogby.
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posted on
10/30/2004 4:39:09 AM PDT
by
Rebelbase
(Kerry hunting is like Bush going to a gay disco just to prove he's not homophobic (thanks QLA))
To: MichaelTN04
There's two reasons for why this is the way it is.
1) Polling was completed right after or around the time the tape came out. This is pre-Osama polling.
2) Zogby knows that Bush will win now, and he's got three days to show a trend. Sunday will show Bush 49 to 47, Monday Bush 50 to 46, and then on Tuesday he'll keep it at 50 to 46.
Washington Post should show 51 to 46 today, and 52 to 46 on Sunday and it will stay that way Monday.
Gallup will come out on Monday and will show Bush up at least four points, perhaps as much as eight points.
Expect a Newsweek poll to come out today showing Bush behind Kerry. It's pre-Osama and that will be their attempt to show a "Kerry comeback" that they had hoped for but now realize isn't going to happen.
There should be a Time poll out too this weekend, and it could go either way.
To: Fenris6
Even in this tainted poll, Bush could still have a lead within the margin of error. That shows you what Kerry is facing come tuesday.
To: rjmeagle
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posted on
10/30/2004 4:40:38 AM PDT
by
narses
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To: Fenris6
Zogby's "Fair and Balanced" poll among pollsters is on the same par as Al-Jazeera is "Fair and Balanced" in the media NOT!!!
PS: Both are Arabs--enough said!!!
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posted on
10/30/2004 4:41:13 AM PDT
by
rjmeagle
(Future Generations Will Say the Republican Party is the Party of Lincoln and GW Bush!!!)
To: rjmeagle
Final National Presidential Poll Results, 1936-2000 National Council on Public Polls - Error Measure 2000-Preliminary
|
Gore |
Bush |
Nader |
Un- decided |
Other |
Gore- Bush |
Margin Error Poll - Elect |
Candidate Error |
Election Result |
48% |
48% |
3% |
|
1% |
0% |
|
|
Zogby |
48% |
46% |
5% |
0% |
1% |
2% |
2% |
1.0% |
CBS |
45% |
44% |
4% |
5% |
2% |
1% |
1% |
0.5% |
Harris (Phone) |
47% |
47% |
5% |
0% |
1% |
0% |
0% |
0.0% |
Gallup/CNN/USA Today |
46% |
48% |
4% |
0% |
2% |
-2% |
2% |
1.0% |
Pew Research |
47% |
49% |
4% |
0% |
0% |
-2% |
2% |
1.0% |
IBD/CSM/Tipp |
46% |
48% |
4% |
0% |
2% |
-2% |
2% |
1.0% |
ICR/Politics Now |
44% |
46% |
7% |
1% |
2% |
-2% |
2% |
1.0% |
NBC/WSJ |
44% |
47% |
3% |
4% |
2% |
-3% |
3% |
1.5% |
ABC/WashPost |
45% |
48% |
3% |
3% |
1% |
-3% |
3% |
1.5% |
Battleground |
45% |
50% |
4% |
0% |
1% |
-5% |
5% |
2.5% |
|
|
|
|
|
Avg. Error |
2.2% |
1.1% |
Alternative Methods |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Harris Interactive |
47% |
47% |
4% |
0% |
2% |
0% |
0% |
0.0% |
Rasmussen |
49% |
40% |
4% |
|
9% |
9% |
4.5% |
|
THIRD PARTY ERROR |
|
---------------------Allocate Undecided*----------------------- |
Gore |
Bush |
Nader |
Other |
Nader Error |
|
48% |
46% |
5.0% |
1% |
2% |
100% |
47% |
46% |
4.0% |
2% |
1% |
100% |
47% |
47% |
5.0% |
1% |
2% |
100% |
46% |
48% |
4.0% |
2% |
1% |
100% |
47% |
49% |
4.0% |
0% |
1% |
100% |
46% |
48% |
4.0% |
2% |
1% |
100% |
44% |
46% |
7.0% |
2% |
4% |
100% |
46% |
49% |
3.0% |
2% |
0% |
100% |
46% |
49% |
3.0% |
1% |
0% |
100% |
45% |
50% |
|
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posted on
10/30/2004 4:43:31 AM PDT
by
Rome2000
(The ENEMY for Kerry!!!)
To: MichaelTN04
Great analysis. Thanks.
Question:
Is this inside info or educated speculation?
To: mmsturm
Without a doubt Zogby is trying to influence this election - he and his brother, as well as most other Arabs are for Kerry!
However, we must get out and vote!
33
posted on
10/30/2004 4:45:37 AM PDT
by
RAY
(They that do right are all heroes!)
To: mmsturm
Zogby was on radio and TV yesterday predicting a Kerry win. In addition to all his other baggage, which is substantial, he now must have his polling fall into line with his prediction.
34
posted on
10/30/2004 4:45:52 AM PDT
by
Pharlap
To: mmsturm
John Zogby and his brother James are Arab scum that want to see the USA defeated by bin Laden and company, and he is doing the same thing he tried in 2002, when he looked like the fool he is with his off the wall, false polling. Zogby should stick to being a "fair" pollster, rather then being a cheerleader for Usama bin Laden's chosen candidate for POTUS, John "Traitor/Treason" Kerry. No matter what Zogby says, John Kerry is going down big time on election day and so is the entire "traitor" Democrat Party. Mr Zogby, get this: we don't give hoot what your lying poll says!!! And get this: we will be getting out every vote for GW Bush that we humanly can!!!
To: Pharlap
It's educated speculation. Just based on trends and what I know about how polling is conducted.
To: Dubya's fan
"I'm John Kerry and I approve this message."
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To: mmsturm
Zogby has two days of reporting to shift his view. He doesn't give up anything by being an outlier poll three days out. He gains favor with the Dems and gets plenty of attention. He enjoys the spotlight.
After the election the only polls reported and discussed is the one on the Monday before voting day.
To: MichaelTN04
Zogby knows that Bush will win now, and he's got three days to show a trend. Sunday will show Bush 49 to 47, Monday Bush 50 to 46, and then on Tuesday he'll keep it at 50 to 46. Explain, is this real or just Zogby's way of presentation to look good - and to continue getting paid for his "factored polling".
Man, hope your analysis are right! However, it seems the unknown factor is the impact of new voters - and apparently the Democrats have larger numbers.
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posted on
10/30/2004 4:55:28 AM PDT
by
RAY
(They that do right are all heroes!)
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