Last ditch appeal to Libertarians and Constitution voters:

11/1/2004 | agitate

[Agitate]

Is your protest vote worth 4 years of John Kerry? Are you willing to risk appeasing terrorists, sellout to the UN and the EU, more taxes, less for the military, homosexual marriage and activist judges who will be there long after the president is gone, your for vote today?

Sometimes you have to lose a battle to win the final war. Is a vote for a candidate who will not win worth 4 years of Kerry’s extreme liberalism? I hope not.

[gdc61]

"With these results after trying to pass universal health care, I not worried at all"

times are changing. How else does someone like Kerry garner almost half the vote? the media screaming about free health care. the prices of drugs and doctor visits skyrocketing, this socialized medicine movement is gaining BIG TIME! better wake up. the new VP might be a malpractice lawyer.

[Agitate]

I voted for Browne in 2000 and 1996, Andre Marrou in 1992, and Mike Dukakis in 1988.

Tomorrow, I will proudly punch my ballot for George W. Bush.

The Supreme Court, our security, and our economic future are too important to entrust to "None of the Above", which is a default vote for Kerry.

Bush has flaws, but this is not the time to obsess about them. The alternative is far worse.

That's how I'm thinking. I am utterly ashamed to say how I voted in 2000. It wasn't Democrat, Libertarian or Constitution. I was totally unschooled in politics and just shouldn't have voted. Thank God for those wise enough not to vote like me back then.

I know that libertarians and constitution party supporters are much more politically educated and not ignorant like I was in 2000, I'm not saying that at all. I'm sure they are frustrated like most of us. I have gone door to door several times this weekend an after talking to potential voters, it seems many do not realize the potential Kerry poses to our freedom. I also know that every vote will count in many states this time, thus this appeal.

[Agitate]

Post that at LibertyPost.

Pardon my ignorance, but where and what is liberty post?

[gdc61]

by the way. better by a gun to protect your conscience. If Bush loses there's a bigger, more intrusive, government headed your way, that holds the Constitution in contempt.

[dlt]

Thanks, Agitate, for understanding my answer was not a flame.

I agree that Kerry in office will not fix any of these problems. Bush in office will also fail to fix these problems. Instead, Bush in office will allows the current Republican party to keep veering to the left, as the Dems become more and more socialist.

The neocons are Wilsonian democrats pretending to be conservatives. I have learned over the past 4 years that just because someone says he or she is Republican does not mean that the person is a conservative. It just means that the person does not want the Dems in office or that the person is an evangelical Christian. (No offense to evangelicals -- my dad is a Baptist minister.)

[Agitate]

Flame suit on and ready.

That's what we were told 4 years ago. I am tired of the RNC moving more and more to the left each election. I will vote for Bush but not because he is conservative. I just don't want Kerry and the liberal media to win.

It would be helpful if someone could list all of the conservative things Bush has done the last 4 years compared with all of the centrist positions. I don't want to see statements he made, but actual policies (and don't include the WOT, we already know about that).

No flame suit needed for me. From what I see I agree with your thinking. I don't like the move to the left either. Bush has said and done things that make me cringe, but more often he has said things that make me cheer. The lesser of 2 evils again but I think it will always be that way.

Again, I believe we have a better chance to work for true conservative, constitutionally sound change under Bush, Kerry is more concerned with the UN/EU International Criminal Court constitution than ours.

Also, I think there is a list of Bush's conservative achievements, I will post it if I can find it or someone may beat me to it.

And you're right about the media too, the MSM propaganda is the scariest thing about this election. From sophistry to flat out lies, it's bordering on Goebbels IMHO.

[Agitate]

I thought you didn't need the votes from "Liberaltarians"? What happened to change your mind?

When did I say that? I'll take any votes I can get for Bush this time around.

I belive this is an emergency situation, and the worse thing that can happen to anyone who is not a true leftist is for Kerry to win. I believe he is a real and present danger to this nation. It's not about changing minds, it's about making the best logical choice for the country's future.

[Non-Sequitur]

If Bush loses there's a bigger, more intrusive, government headed your way, that holds the Constitution in contempt.

Same sh*t, different day.

[laotzu]

My two cents.....

I was born a conservative, and have spent my life working and arguing for the Republican party. I will vote Republican this time around.

I would consider it a favor if everyone demanded that their vote be earned; and not provide your vote to anyone that didn't earn it.

This nation has entirely too many sheep in it already. Too many of the ignorant vote as it is. If after consideration, which you have obviously given, you find that any party doesn't represent you, then please....do not vote for them.

I look forward to the day that my party earns your vote, and will appreciate the intrinsic value that only an earned vote brings.

[okkev68]

I agree 100% with you. I have decided to vote for Bush only because we are at war with Islam (and I do mean all of Islam not just the extreme), and we are at war with the MSM and hollyweird left.

I do feel that we are headed quickly towards a three party system.
1 - (D) Liberal extremists.
2 - (RO) RINO party made up of the current RNC (including Bush) and the centrist democrats which will be mosty pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, big government, but strong defense and moderately low taxes.
3 - (C) Conservative party made up of the old Reagan conservatives, christians, and pro-life, profamily, small government.

[rintense]

Here is my appeal:

Every time a liberal is elected as President, the country moves farther to the left. Subsequently, so does the Republican party. For every one step forward for conservatism, there is two steps backward for liberalism. A Kerry victory would only continue the country down a far more liberal course, no matter how much you believe a Bush victory would do the same.

The country can not become more conservative with a liberal as President. The courts are already flooded with liberals. Our social values have collapsed. Our moral values as a collective are beginning to rival those of European countries. In other words, we are on track to become that which we fought against.

Any thoughts of the emergence of a third party to 'teach Republicans a lesson' is nothing more than tomfoolery since it virtually guarantees liberals a victory every time. The only realistic way to get America on the conservative track is to elect George W. Bush to office for another four years.

[k2blader]

Even though I don't think President Bush is a conservative, I'm voting for him largely because of the WOT and social issues (homosexual marriage and abortion).

[Protagoras]

You make the most intelligent plea for non Republican votes I have thus far seen on FR.

I think many libertarians and others who have goals that are advocated, but not acted upon, by the Republican party will vote for Bush tomorrow. Despite being called names, not only today, but every day by the kooks on this site who embrace authoritarianism as their ideal form af governance.

[wolicy_ponk]

You sound like a Liberaltarian to me.

[Agitate]

Here is my appeal: Every time a liberal is elected as President, the country moves farther to the left. Subsequently, so does the Republican party. For every one step forward for conservatism, there is two steps backward for liberalism. A Kerry victory would only continue the country down a far more liberal course, no matter how much you believe a Bush victory would do the same.

The country can not become more conservative with a liberal as President. The courts are already flooded with liberals. Our social values have collapsed. Our moral values as a collective are beginning to rival those of European countries. In other words, we are on track to become that which we fought against.

Any thoughts of the emergence of a third party to 'teach Republicans a lesson' is nothing more than tomfoolery since it virtually guarantees liberals a victory every time. The only realistic way to get America on the conservative track is to elect George W. Bush to office for another four years.

I agree, Bush is our best chance to "get right." A protest vote that doesn't help Bush will just put us further in the hole of liberalism and big government. Kerry is more interested in appeasing the rest of the world than upholding our constitution. Bush may not be the best, but he is the best opportunity for positive change right now, given the fact that a third party cannot win tomorrow.

[gdc61]

but we Do have a REPUBLICAN house and senate and hopefully a President so we can get back to conservative ideals and maybe conservative JUDGES. that isn't gonna happen with sKerry. now all it will take is for YOU and I to do our part.
and stop crying about how much money is spent. most programs got less than they would have from any other candidate in 2000. bush capped the spending and after 9/11 most of the spending went to military.
happy with the last four years ? I sure am, and there lies the defference between you and I. I'll take destroying the Al-qaida in Afghanistan and taking down Saddam who supported any terrorist who asked, as well as being a monster.you know, rape rooms, mass graves... plus pulling the country out of a recession at the same time recovering from the greatest attack on this country since pearl harbor. where about a million of jobs were lost is the first couple months after 9/11. considering we can't change what happened on 9/11, yea I think GWB done pretty good. better than Gore would have done and way better that sKerry can do. so I'll vote Bush. you go join the "anybody but Bush" crowd

[Diva Betsy Ross]

I am a previous "I am mad at Bush and not voting for him" voter. And I have already cast my vote for President Bush- I have done so proudly.

Since my "angry days" I have joined the Vietnam Vets Against Kerry. That alone is enough reason for me to "kiss and make up" with President Bush.

Yes- after everything was said and done it was just that simple for me.

[killjoy]

If voting for the person I want is throwing my vote away, then voting for the person I don't want is an even bigger waste of my vote.

[Non-Sequitur]

but we Do have a REPUBLICAN house and senate and hopefully a President so we can get back to conservative ideals and maybe conservative JUDGES. that isn't gonna happen with sKerry. now all it will take is for YOU and I to do our part.

We have a Republican House and Senate that wouldn't know Conservative ideals if they bit them in the ass. And a president who pays lip-service to those ideals.

and stop crying about how much money is spent. most programs got less than they would have from any other candidate in 2000. bush capped the spending and after 9/11 most of the spending went to military.

Yeah, that half-trillion dollar cap on the brand new Medicaid Prescription Drug plan impressed the hell out of me.

happy with the last four years ? I sure am, and there lies the defference between you and I.

Then by all means vote for President Bush. I wish you well and I expect he'll win, but don't try to convince me that he is any sort of a Conservative because that is utter nonsense.