DU Forum locked down... so freepers won't link??!!!

[paul51]

There is only one thing sweeter than a win. That's a win after the opponent thinks they got the win. Add to that dasshole out, seats picked up in the senate and house, a finger to france and germany, etc. Start warming up the moving vans for all those America hatters that were going to leave if Pres Bush won.

Come on out terry where ever you are. We want to slap you around a little

[BladeLWS]

The offical Kerry forums are down to! They pulled the plug!

[Don Simmons]

I have no problem getting on DU. (Out of morbid curiosity and rabid desire to gloat and laugh and laugh and laugh....)

Here's one:

Some thoughts on the morning after.
Posted by Skinner
Added to homepage Wed Nov 03rd 2004, 10:48 AM ET

I cannot possibly put into words how disappointed, angry, and perplexed I am right now. The reported results coming out of Florida and Ohio simply make no sense to me. I cannot comprehend how we could have such a massive increase in turnout and not win the election. To paraphrase that little weasel Tucker Carlson: You don't wait in line for five hours to vote for more of the same. Who knows, maybe some people really would wait in line for more of the same. But my impression is that something just stinks here. As EarlG told me this morning: The result is either massively fraudulent or deeply disturbing.

Are we going to Ohio? As it became clear last night that this race was not over, I posted this Call To Arms. I talked to EarlG and Elad last night, and we all agreed that we have a moral responsibility to do whatever we can. If the Kerry campaign needs warm bodies to protest, stuff envelopes, make coffee, or generally raise hell, then we are going to go to Ohio and help do it. I hope lots of other Democrats join us. But before we go charging blindly into war, we need to figure out what the heck is going on. We are keeping our eyes on the TV and the Internet to find out what the Kerry campaign and folks in Ohio (and maybe Florida) have to say about the situation. If we think we can help in some way, then we're going to go.

What happened? I have no clue what happened. As I said above, I find the result to be extremely hard to believe. In my disappointment, I find myself drawn to a number of possible explanations, some of which raise legitimate questions that need to be answered, and others which may just be the result of wishful thinking. We've got an incredibly smart and motivated group of people here. We need to consider all of the possibilities. If any particular idea has potential, then we need to pursue it. I have already seen many very compelling theories put forth on this message board, and I'm sure we'll hear lots of other ideas coming from other bloggers. Hopefully some of them will pan out. But I would caution everyone to avoid jumping to any conclusions. As much as we don't want to believe it, it may turn out that--to put it bluntly--the other side got more votes.

We have already had some very interesting things posted on DU since last night. Of particular interest to me were the following:

This post and this post suggest that exit polls closely match reported results, except in those states that had electronic voting machines with no paper trail. This definitely deserves more scrutiny.

Also, there was this post asking why the massive increase in turnout isn't showing up in the final numbers. Or is it? This needs to be looked into.

With these in mind, I would be curious to see someone do a comparison of Florida and Ohio to all the other states, to see 1) if the increase in turnout in FL and OH is comparable to what we are seeing in other states, and 2) if the FL and OH are showing a similar change in results to other states when compared to the 2000 results.

Keep an eye on the DU Blog on our homepage, which will highlight the most compelling posts on this board. If you don't currently read the DU homepage, I suggest that you start doing so. It is a good way to stay informed about the latest developments posted here. (And don't forget to "Nominate" those topics that you think need more attention.)

It's not over yet. Don't lose hope. And don't turn against your friends. We have already had some pretty ugly threads posted here. People are angry and upset. And some people here already seem to be turning against each other. Please stop. During this time, we need DU to be a place where we can find comfort and support amongst friends. (Note to disruptors and flame-baiters: The moderators are as angry and disappointed as I am right now, and their tolerance for the usual crap is very low.)

John Kerry hasn't conceded this election yet, and neither should we. As long as he thinks there is hope, then we're going to stick with him.

Hang in there, everyone. We need each other more than ever.

ON EDIT: Actually... Just ignore everything I said. Kerry conceded.

David Allen
"Skinner"
DU Admin

PS: I know we've all got other stuff on our mind right now, but I need to point out that DU was the only liberal political blog that had super-fast response times last night. We had the most traffic we've ever had. All night, we were averaging well above the level of traffic that we had during our highest debate-night spike. I know it's a small consolation under the circumstances. But I think it would be a shame if this monumental achievement went unnoticed.

[finnman69]

NO CONCESSION!!!!!!!!!!! SIGN UP HERE

Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 03:09 AM by shelley806
We are not going to be defeated again. We will not concede to this murderering fascist.

This letter is one of many examples posted here this evening:
A DU post

Dear PRESIDENT Kerry,

PLEASE do not give up! They stole this election and it is obvious. You were ahead in OH and FL in the exit polls by a decent margin and you lost FL by a fairly large margin. All of the other states showed the exit polls dead on with the real votes, except Ohio and Florida, thanks to electronic voting machines. People didn't turn out in record numbers for 4 more years of this pathetic excuse for a president. They came out to support YOU! Zogby called it for you, even the republicans were giving up.

Then Rove said that the exit polling was way off. How is possible that only Ohio and Florida were way off? They are trying to steal this election AGAIN. WE will not give up and we will fight for you! Please do the same for us. Fight till the bitter end. You won the election and they are trying to steal it from you. MR. PRESIDENT, stand up and fight.



EMAIL JK:
http://www.johnkerry.com/contact/involved.php

No concession. Please save our beloved country. Exit polling data and high voter turnout is for Kerry Don't let Bush do this again!!!

Do not concede!!

I'M E-MAILING THIS THREAD TO KERRY HEADQUARTERS...
KEEP IT UP

NO SURRENDER
NO CONCESSION

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I hope they start wiping out every last living thing in ANWR tomorrow!


Seriously, on these issues, LET THEM RUN WITH IT!

Give them a court to overturn Roe v Wade.

Let them totally destroy ANWR, it's not like it'll change the price per gallon of gas or anything.

Nader wanted worse, give the Naderites WORSE.

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I am astounded, flabbergasted, appalled at what I'm seeing here


this morning.

For weeks, months, and for some of us, for years, we have know that this election was going to be a hard fought, down and dirty fight to the death (pardon all the cliches).

And now I see people here at DU, who should know better, conceding defeat one day after election day.

There have been reports for weeks of the attempt at disenfranchisement of Democratic voters. We have known the BBV issue was going to bite us in our collective ass. We knew the repub spin machine in the media would do everything within its power to spin * back into office. We knew they would not let us experience a landslide or a definitive victory.


In short, we knew this was not going to be decided in one 24 hour period; though many of us may have hoped otherwise.

So excuse me, but, what the fu*k are you people doing posting about having lost; "the American people have spoken," "it was the abortion issue," "will there be repercussions from the rest of the world?" "what will be the issues in 2008?" and other defeatist shit such as that.

This is NOT over! Get a fu*king grip! Did Kerry concede? Why the hell are you? Now quitcher belly aching and post the ways you plan to help the fight against the fascist fu*ks trying to take the WH. Do not let this be another "bloodless coup" (metaphorically speaking). The RNC needs to be investigated, the voter fraud needs to be exposed, the results don't reflect anything having to do with reality.

Cut it the fu*k OUT!

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Dear Nader voters and too-busy-to-vote liberals,


fu*k you very much.

The Nader votes alone would've been enough to keep Iowa out of Bush's slimy clutches.

Even if Kerry wins, it's without a popular majority. I'm disgusted with this country for having no collective conscience whatsoever, and with the Naderites for putting their worthless ideological purity ahead of our country.

America deserves whatever crap it gets now. Electoral vote notwithstanding, Bush has gotten the popular vote. America has endorsed paranoia, xenophobia, lies and corruption by a significant margin. I'm thoroughly disillusioned with this sick, ignorant country right now.

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No Surrender, Baby: Howard Dean for DNC Chairman

Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 10:11 AM by WI_DEM
If Bush does go on to another term we need to hold his feet to the fire. He should get absolutely no "honeymoon" from our party. The stats don't lie he would be the first president to be so narrowly elected since 1916. His 51-48 popular vote is hardly a mandate, but he will treat it as such, just like he treated his 550,000 vote loss in 2000 as a landslide. We need someone who is highly visible to counter Bush in the media and among the rank and file and frankly, I don't think anyone would be better than Howard Dean.

I also believe there should be a condition attached (which would reasure those who might want Dean as DNC but not as a candidate for president) and it would be this, that Howard Dean would spend the next four years electing democrats to congress and elsewhere and winning back the presidency in 2008--he should pledge that he, himself, would not be a candidate and use the postition to promote his candidacy.

I strongly supported Dean for the nomination this year, but now in my opinion we need his guts and fire for the next four years in this most visible of posts--watching George W. Bush.

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did NOBODY watch F-911 when it was out????


i don't know what plantet some of these people live on

[eyespysomething]

another (and so true):


Did being on DU so much make me delusional? I NEVER thought this



would happen. I could not see Americans actually choosing that scumbag to be their leader. What a sad, sad day for all people who really value freedom.

[Buck W.]

Here's another, posted by mermaid. It's addressed to us:

Lurking Freepers: When YOUR Kid Gets Drafted...Don't Cry To Me!!


I will have no sympathy for you. You voted for the son of a bush...so don't expect any sympathy from me, when YOUR kid gets drafted, if you voted for Bush...I will have no sympathy for you...because you could have prevented it, and didn't.

You were too worried about Gays, Guns, Abortion, and God, to worry about the safety of your own family so now you deal with it!

Hard? Yes. But too bad.

[fat city]

This morning they were getting up a busload to go to Ohio to "help Kerry" or making plans to leave the country. I say why stop now- just get more busses.

[speed_addiction]

It is worse than the Titanic! Their one sinlge glimmer of hope was Kerry fighting it out! Now they have lost even that! They have nowhere for the hate to go but to those responsible, the Democrats themselves.

[eyespysomething]

another:

4. He's a sellout, only after personal gain



we would have been infinitely better off with Dean.

[Jack Deth]

I tried getting into DU about five minutes ago, 1st Freedom.

They DISCRIMINATE!!!

They probably killed Kenny too!

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Jack.

[eyespysomething]

Why exactly did Kerry concede again?



Is there going to be any explanation for this?

I'm sick. Literally sick right now.

I never, in my wildest dreams, ever thought I would say this, but...

God Bless America. I don't know what else to say.

[eyespysomething]

DU-

Is there any PROOF that Kerry conceded?



As far as I'm concerned this is still just a rumor

[1stFreedom]

The forums are locked, not DU in general.

[Junior_G]

Hilarious!!! They're in full meltdown again. The scariest thing about those fools is that many of them believe Kerry won this election just as they believe Gore won the last one. They are more deluded than your nuttiest insane grandma.

[Mr. Silverback]

Ted Willimas is their Daddy!

Oh wait, that's te Yankees. Never mind, I must be really tired if I mistook a bunch of atheletes for DU.

[mabelkitty]

They have been planning violent riots all morning. Trying to organize.
And yet they never left their computer.
How very "Life of Brian"

[Guillermo]

How did you manage to make it to 2000 posts?

Talk about the Patience of Job...the most I ever reached was 36.

[MKM1960]

I knew Elizabeth Edwards watched DU, I didn't know Teresa Heinz was actually a member. LOL!!!

[mabelkitty]

What was your screen name?