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The GROM Factor (Poland's special forces in Iraq - from 2003)
Daily Standard ^ | 05/08/2003 | Victorino Matus

Posted on 11/07/2004 1:47:35 PM PST by risk

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To: jpthomas
"Grom" was also the name of the giant battleram used by Sauron's army to smash open the gates of Minas Tirith.

It looks like "Grom" has been "captured" by the Poles and is now being used against the forces of Mordor ;-)

21 posted on 11/07/2004 3:51:43 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: archy; Fedora; Squantos; anonymoussierra; Grzegorz 246; wildcatf4f3; SandRat; Nice50BMG; vannrox; ..
And if necessary, that motto of Catherine of Poland would certainly serve Poland's modern warriors as well as it has those in Poland's past: Pro jure et populo!

Thanks for the historic perspective, archy!

22 posted on 11/07/2004 4:12:06 PM PST by risk
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To: risk

God bless our Polish allies.


23 posted on 11/07/2004 4:17:46 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: risk

Give 'em hell, GROM!


24 posted on 11/07/2004 5:36:48 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (W 1)
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To: risk

I am very proud to be of Polish ancestry: my Grandparents came into Ellis Island after the turn of the century. It makes my heart feel good to learn of the "thunderers". Also, many people are not aware of the fact that it was the Poles that broke the enigma code during World War II. Prince Charles announced it a few years back. Huaaa!! "Sto lat" to all of these Polish forces.


25 posted on 11/07/2004 6:08:50 PM PST by stolat (stolat)
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To: stolat; anonymoussierra

Good luck, good cheer, may you live one hundred years!
26 posted on 11/07/2004 6:25:01 PM PST by risk
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To: risk

Thank you


27 posted on 11/08/2004 5:51:58 AM PST by anonymoussierra
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To: risk

some idiot is calling my government acommunist pery government. it is true that both the president and the prime minister comes from left wing party. i dont like them too much because of that but i still respect them for the right decision they made sending polish troops to iraq. major right wing parties in poland are in favor of polish troops staying in iraq. he must be samoobrona(sel defence) minority party in poland led by andrzej lepper, pesant lover idiot, ot from liga polskich rodzin (the league of polisg families party) another idiotic party which base its approval on pesants and people who are not happy with the transormation in poland in recent years.
he talks that our constitution is being brokken because we sent our troops to iraq. he doesnt mention that the soldiers who went to iraq volounteered to go there. there was no draft. people like that just confuse others.


28 posted on 11/08/2004 4:42:41 PM PST by canalia
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To: canalia; anonymoussierra; Matthew Paul; Marie007; Atlantic Friend; MadIvan; Ginifer; vannrox; ...
some idiot is calling my government acommunist pery government [in kpp.neostrada.pl page?]

Thank you so much for your detailed comments in #28. European politics are complicated to many of us Americans, but your insight makes Poland's current situation a bit clearer. Please keep us updated (and welcome to FR - this was a great first post).

We can hope that Poland stays in the coalition. I think we have much more work to do. I also think that this experience is invaluable for Polish troops and their commanding officer corps, despite the casualties.

29 posted on 11/08/2004 9:01:29 PM PST by risk
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thanks. sorry for all the mistakes i made. it was 2 am central european time i was using my laptop lying in the bad in the dark. anyway nowadays there are plenty of people who try to confuse others in order to stir up the political scene in Poland. with coming next year both, presidential and polish parliament campaign we may hear more from people like that. oh by the way I am a Polak and I am proud of it. i got a Polak tatoo on my left arm. Got it in Dallas when i lived in Tulsa Oklahoma. you should have seen the look on the guys face who gave me that tatoo.
dumb people are everywhere in the USA too. getting that tatoo wanted to make sure that there is no mistake about who I am (Polak means Polish male in Polish and Polka means Polish female, who by the way are goodlooking)
now some dumbass french jokes:

Do you know how many French soldiers is needed to defend Paris?
Nobody knows it has never been tried.

Do you know why French soldiers should actually go to Iraq?
To show al zarkavi how to capitulate.

Do yuo know why there are trees on Champs Elysees (the biggest street in Paris)?
So the German army can march in shade


30 posted on 11/09/2004 2:20:50 AM PST by canalia
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Do you know how many French soldiers is needed to defend Paris?

Around 1,357,800 French troops died in WW1 "defending Paris."

The Manginot line and a lot of hand-wringing in the Anglosphere led to the fall of Paris in 1940.

France is in a difficult location to defend. Poland is, too.

In this current world war, which I see as an extension of the first two, France has the same problems we have defending the Anglosphere and Poland: our cultures are open and naive. Where we think we are superior to France, look again. If France falls, we can all fall.

In this war, I only care about patriots for modern civilization. You can't tell your enemy by his race or his location.

Give me one Frenchman who loves his country over any number of leftist Americans, blue state or red.

With America, it's easy to know about winning. For anyone born after 1940, it's not so easy to know about giving it all for a cause that no one knows can be won.

A lot of French and Poles knew.

31 posted on 11/10/2004 12:21:58 AM PST by risk
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To: risk

Thank you!!!! THAT IS GOOD!!!


32 posted on 11/10/2004 5:18:09 AM PST by anonymoussierra
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To: canalia

You shouldn't use any ethnic jokes.


33 posted on 11/11/2004 9:36:47 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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I met Miller when he was still the Premier. I have never met another man who could lie so smoothly. I did a little "test" on him, which only confirmed what I knew before: Miller doesn't give a damn about anything but looking good to other people, especially those outside of Poland. Kwasniewski seems to be an alright president, doing much more good than harm, but he seems afraid of Miller.


34 posted on 12/15/2004 9:12:11 PM PST by Polak z Polski
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