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Priority 1: Remove Specter from the Judiciary (Day 7)
11-9-04 | Alway Right

Posted on 11/09/2004 12:45:10 AM PST by Always Right

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To: mwl1
Wrong. There will be no rules change. Neither the White House nor the Senate leadership is gonna go there.

The White House has deferred the decision to the Senate. The Senate leadership will defer the decision to the Committee. No rules need to be changed to vote Specter out. There is a process and it will be followed.

41 posted on 11/09/2004 6:21:16 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Owen
Rove and the President understand the nuances of the Senate situation. Specter knows he is on the bubble. The absolute optimal situation would be, and I think we can all agree on this, that he says disquieting things to keep the left defused but when it comes to votes he toes the party line.

The optimal situation is to keep the heat on Specter and let him call in every political favor possible. I will let God decide if Specter should be Chairman, but to let Specter off the hook now when he has stepped in it so deep would be dumb, IMHO. We can not let him off Scott(ish) free.

42 posted on 11/09/2004 6:26:46 AM PST by Always Right
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To: The_Eaglet
I'm glad to see FReepers standing for the right to life. THANK YOU! I have called Senator Frist about this.

Thank you. Without people responding my efforts would be worthless.

43 posted on 11/09/2004 6:28:48 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

You are confusing apples with oranges. You can vote Specter out as chair. You can throw him off the committee. You can purge him from the GOP caucus. You can evict Specter, Snowe, Collins, and others from the Republican Party.

Do as you please.

But if you do any of these things, President Bush will not get his judges -- district, appellate or USSC. Moreover, he will not get tort reform, health care reform, tax reform, social security reform, or anything else of legislative significance.


44 posted on 11/09/2004 6:29:18 AM PST by mwl1
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To: Always Right
Faxed the following to: Hatch, Frist, Kyl, Sessions, Chambliss...Hope it helps...

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Dear Senator ___________,  

I oppose the nomination of Senator Arlen Specter to head the Judiciary Committee.  

Arlen Specter is no friend of the conservative cause, and will move to block President Bush's nominations.  

Arlen Specter:  

•  Led the charge against President Reagan's nomination of Robert Bork

•  Has opposed parental notification (not consent) of a minors request for abortion.

•  Has voted to slash military spending

•  Has opposed school choice

•  Has worked to defeat Tort Reform

•  Has voted to kill a bill that would have banned human cloning

•  Supported and encouraged Clintons veto of tax cuts

•  Has worked to expand hate crimes legislation

•  Worked to reduce the size of President Bush's Tax Cuts

•  Now Arlen Specter has Litmus Test: No Pro Life Judges

Arlen Specter is unfit to lead the Judiciary and I vehemently oppose his nomination. Arlen Specter is not a conservative.  

Please do not squander our victory. Have strength. A man who hasn't the courage of his convictions has neither courage nor conviction.  

Do what's right. The people will remember you.

Signed

45 posted on 11/09/2004 6:30:01 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: tkathy
This is the circular firing squad in full battle array. This has to put Karl Rove in total despair. The inability of extremists to think things through never fails to amaze me.

Karl Rove is actually enjoying this immensely. We are weakening Specter up for when we do real battle. Believe me, Specter's reputation is taking a beating and he is calling his favors in. The White House has its hands off the situation and is not being damaged. I don't think Rove can think of a better deal.

46 posted on 11/09/2004 6:33:43 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Could you rephrase your question, please? I'm not sure I understand it.

Owen's post, right after yours, has some good thoughts.

I agree with your concluding point. Even the arrogant, elitist MacSpectre has clearly felt the heat, and that's all-good. In an ideal situation, we'd not be IN this situation, we'd not have to be dealing with the leftover baggage of MacSpectre, but relishing some sound, wise conservative.

But in an ideal situation, we'd not have such a divided country, and resultantly such a mixed bag of Senators to deal with.

But here we are. What's wisest to do while we're here -- that's the question!

Dan


47 posted on 11/09/2004 6:35:33 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: mwl1
Do as you please.

We are not going to let Specter off for free. You can say what you want, but the more we damage Specter now the better.

48 posted on 11/09/2004 6:39:29 AM PST by Always Right
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To: BibChr
I will go check out the link and read what he has to say.

I am not interested in "shallow sniping" I am interested in REAL conservative judges. I have no bone to pick with you only the liberal specter. Please don't take this personally.

The reason I am arguing this so hard is that an "I told you so" will be bitter and worthless because at that point it will be to late, a liberal (read moderate)justice will have taken the place of a conservative on the USSC. Then we are screwed.
49 posted on 11/09/2004 6:42:56 AM PST by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: tkathy

Not interested in how you feel, or your opinion. State the facts why this is bad, then make an argument...otherwise sit on the bleachers.


50 posted on 11/09/2004 6:44:29 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: BibChr
Could you rephrase your question, please? I'm not sure I understand it.

Sorry, I meant to keep it a little foggy. I just think no matter what happens, keeping the heat on Specter will have positive results. Even if Specter 'wins' and gets the Chairman's job, I want Specter's reputation to be hurt. I want Specter to have to cash political favors in. I want Specter to be weakened. Specter will try to kill Bush's best appointments, but people will know that Specter is just a pro-Abortion leftwing hack.

51 posted on 11/09/2004 6:45:17 AM PST by Always Right
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To: myself6

Thanks. And believe me, I *TOTALLY* agree with your feelings and goals, as I understand them.

I *despise* MacSpectre, politically speaking. I have often said, I will NEVER forgive him for Bork, unless he shows repentance of that — which he hasn't. I will NEVER forgive him for failing in re. removing Clinton, unless he shows repentance of that — which he hasn't. Only thing he HAS expressed regret over is the only good thing he ever did: defending Clarence Thomas!

This is not about how much I value Mac himself. I don't.

It's all about what will move the ball in the right direction for the longest time. The more I think about it, the more I am leaning in the direction that throwing Mac under the bus now would be immediately (and immensely!!) satisfying, but long-term costly. That's all.

Dan


52 posted on 11/09/2004 6:47:39 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Always Right

Good points, I think.

Dang, politics is COMPLICATED!

Dan
(c;


53 posted on 11/09/2004 6:48:26 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
Only thing he HAS expressed regret over is the only good thing he ever did: defending Clarence Thomas!

He has also said indirectly that he regrets having supported Scalia and Rehnquist. He said in his book he 'relunctantly' supported them and fears them if they ever become a majority.

54 posted on 11/09/2004 6:50:40 AM PST by Always Right
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To: BibChr
What is wisest is to GO FOR IT!

"retreat?! Hell! we just got here!" I love that quote.

When you have the power you USE it for all its worth. Republicans and the president just came off a stunning victory, the libs are off balance, NOW is the time to beat them senseless. Now is the time to implement our agenda! now is NOT the time to start worrying about the next election. We have the tools at our disposal to implement LASTING, REAL, MEANINGFUL change and we should use it to its MAXIMUM extent, NOW.
55 posted on 11/09/2004 6:53:29 AM PST by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: BibChr
:)

I'm glad we can keep this civil between freepers. Unlike the California recall (freeper civil war).

We may have to agree to disagree, but the cool thing is we are both fighting for the same goal. While you are taking more of an Eisenhower approach we are taking more of a Patton approach, but Both were needed to win WWII.
56 posted on 11/09/2004 6:58:53 AM PST by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: Always Right

Spoke to Chambliss' office in NW Atlanta.

Got the feeling they're "politely" receiving phone calls. Couldn't tell how many at that office.

Left my local mailing address, will drive by later today to leave a "bigger" impression.

If several phone calls a day were being received (even if some are from out-of-state), I think it would defeinitely take away the Senator's "my right to chair because I want to sit in because I've been here the longest" position.


57 posted on 11/09/2004 7:02:31 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Always Right

I know. The man sucks, as a Senator. No question.

Dan


58 posted on 11/09/2004 7:30:01 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Left my local mailing address, will drive by later today to leave a "bigger" impression.

Great to hear. Would love to know how they respond when you drop by.

59 posted on 11/09/2004 8:01:14 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Spectre is the poster boy for Trojan Horse democrat in the republican party.. He should be no where NEAR the Judiciary Commitee.. let alone Chairman.. Another one to keep an eye on is McLaim.. Kerry wanted HIM as VeeP and not as a JOKE either.. This euphoria about 55 pubbie Senators MUST be looked at realistically.. We don't have anywhere near 55 republicans in the Senate.. Filibusters can go two ways..

Accepting faux republicans as republicans is a good way to get salted with ringers by the democrats.. The republican party today occupys territory once held by the democrats. As the demos move farther to the left, republicans FOLLOW.. The blind leading the blind except democrats are not blind at all. They are merely leading the blind..

If Bush doesn't know all this about Spectre OR McLaim this is going to be a hard four years.. If Spectre is a ringer and McLaim is a ringer and Snowe and Chafee are ringers.. odds are that there are ringers in the House as well..

Got my eye on Bush too.. This, "I'm not a divider'er, I'm a Unify'er" bull sperm is very fishy.. Did'nt fool me from the beginning.. Just an excuse to LOSE to democrats.. I voted for him(BUSH).. Bush campaigning for Spectre against Toomey is a bad sign, a sign of weakness and vacillation.. Not a sign of statesmanship and core values at all.. I sure hope Bush is not Plan B of the Republicrats after Plan A (Kerry) went awry.. Hmmm, Bush campaigning for Spectre when he KNOWS he'll have to send up judges to the Senate is FISHY.. very FISHY..

60 posted on 11/09/2004 8:28:26 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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