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Arizona Calling: The brewing immigration backlash.
National Review Online ^ | November 09, 2004 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 11/09/2004 9:19:58 AM PST by xsysmgr

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To: Joe Hadenuf

Hmmm. The issue is...you have a problem
w/ both parties wrt/ immigration reform.
Doesn't leave you much, does it? I guess
you can whine and cry.

I am convinced that immigration reform will
be taken care of in time.

Let's address your issue. What do you
think should be done and how should it be
implemented?

MV


61 posted on 11/09/2004 11:04:48 AM PST by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: madvlad
I guess you can whine and cry.

Thats it? You decline to point out where I am incorrect? Now you want to start asking questions? Hehe. Oh and it's now the what's your solution thing eh? What utter BS.

You are out of your realm Fred. I suggest you find a thread about Scott Peterson, or some other earth shattering issue.

62 posted on 11/09/2004 11:10:04 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: truth_seeker

When will all of you realize that nothing will be done about this?? There will be no sealing of the border, no increased security, no cut off of illegal benefits. The GOP has already made a done deal with the FTAA and its headed in the other direction. THAT is why nothing is done and this isn't discussed by our "leaders". We complain and complain and not a peep from the GOP. In fact when Bill O'Reilly asked Bush about troops on the border he looked shocked as if he had never heard of the idea. He said "No, no, family values don't stop at the border".

What does that tell you? We are in for a Meximerica and we seemingly have NO say in it all.

We will follow like good little sheeple and elect another RINO in the next election because we are afraid of the crazy liberal the demoncats run. Same old story.


63 posted on 11/09/2004 11:10:16 AM PST by Liberalism=MentalDisorder
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To: Liberalism=MentalDisorder
We will follow like good little sheeple and elect another RINO in the next election because we are afraid of the crazy liberal the demoncats run.

Speak for yourself.

64 posted on 11/09/2004 11:11:21 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (She calls me *Mini-Merc*)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Funny, I was just about to say the same thing about
you. Perhaps wrt/ UFO cover-ups and Kennedy
assassination conspiracy theories.

My candidate won last Tues! Deal with it!
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Go stew w/ the libs!

MV


65 posted on 11/09/2004 11:13:34 AM PST by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: xsysmgr
At least Arizona finally "got it".

I have no problem with someone obeying the rules and coming to America to try to make a better life for themselves.
Coming here illegally is another batch of fried fish altogether.

Politicians should listen, or ignore the growing tumult at their own risk.

66 posted on 11/09/2004 11:16:48 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: StoneColdGOP

No, this last election cycle was proof enough he's correct.


67 posted on 11/09/2004 11:18:53 AM PST by american spirit
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To: madvlad
I simply am saying the issue has to be broached carefully.

Why should America be careful of hurting the feelings of a country who has invaded us? Why should we care what this parasitic, corrupt country thinks? Who are you, Karl Rove?

68 posted on 11/09/2004 11:21:49 AM PST by janetgreen (NO AMNESTY, NO "GUESTWORKERS" - WE HAVE ENOUGH ALREADY)
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To: Liberalism=MentalDisorder

I agree and I don't think anything is going to change unless some of the folks in the grassroots legal reform movement can figure out a way to make these politicians personally liable for violating their oath of office to the people.


69 posted on 11/09/2004 11:25:11 AM PST by american spirit
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To: janetgreen

It has to do w/ alienating a nascent republican
voting block. That was what I was getting at.
I wasn't talking about Mexico! Read the entire
thread!

Gee, if I were Karl Rove I would have my ticket
punched for my asking price.

MV


70 posted on 11/09/2004 11:26:43 AM PST by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: american spirit

I think we are way past that possibility. Everyone in the "game" knows that to play in the big leagues you have to go along and get along. So...no one wants to stick their neck out. You have Tancredo and a few others who dare to speak on this, aside from that nothing. We have zero chance of getting a real conservative in the White House. The party has been hijacked by big business RINO's.

Sometimes when I put on my tinfoil hat I think its possible that Kerry was a stool pidgeon to allow Bush re-election. Sounds crazy but who knows nowadays. I can almost imagine Ted Kennedy and Bush working out a deal. In you're best drunken Mass accent:
"Ahh Bushie, I got ya a great candidate to run against, he hasn't got a chance! just pass these bills for me and you're in there for another fooouur yeeaars!! hiccup.."

OK but seriously, don't you get the feeling we are all screaming and NO ONE is listening? Ever wonder why that is?


71 posted on 11/09/2004 11:41:11 AM PST by Liberalism=MentalDisorder
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To: janetgreen

He's a party boy, light weight. Don't waste your time Janet.


72 posted on 11/09/2004 11:44:46 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: janetgreen

MEXICO CITY - Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) said Tuesday that President Bush (news - web sites) will place a high priority in his second term on granting legal status to millions of migrants who live illegally in the United States.


73 posted on 11/09/2004 12:17:03 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: xsysmgr
Interesting article by Lowry, when last I checked was for allowing illegals to be given some kind of legal status to remain and work in the U.S.

Contact every congresscritter and demand that they force every Fedaral Agency to enforce the 1996 Welfare Reform Act passed overwhelmingly by Congress and (un)willingly signed by the Slickster Himself.

These guys run every 2 years so they are somewhat accountable to the voters but they get their really big money, and therefore loyalties from businesses who insist on replacing their legal employees by illegals, where they can.

These turncoats need to be brought to their knees by the electorate and don't forget WE CAN DO IT!!!

74 posted on 11/09/2004 12:56:44 PM PST by zerosix
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47 percent of Hispanics voted for the initiative.

About 30 percent of Americans of Hispanic origin voted for Prop 187 -- that after months of clever, lying TV ads screaming Racist! Racist! at Prop 187.

47 percent of Americans of Hispanic origin voted for the Arizona initiative.

Some one please tell that mule Karl Rove to stop insulting Americans with his Mexipandering!

75 posted on 11/09/2004 2:12:02 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (The left's inalienable rights v. our inalienable rights is America's thirty years war.)
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To: american spirit

When FTAA gets cranked up agian watch, and see who is pushing it. I have been in Grijalva's local office speaking against FTAA, the aid couldn't find anything on Grijalva's position, but he thought Grijalva would oppose it, he usually opposes free trade agreements, which is true.


76 posted on 11/09/2004 2:21:02 PM PST by c-b 1
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"There are two groups who benefit from illegal immigration"

Add one more. Real estate. How many mortgage lenders are pandering to ILLEGAL aliens? No social secuity number required for a loan.

Ms Malkin's government source told her that there may be 40,000 ILLEGAL alien homeowners in the Denver area alone.

www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20030829.shtml

Does President Bush's (it ain't amnesty) guest worker program allow "guest workers" to own homes?

77 posted on 11/09/2004 2:23:20 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (The left's inalienable rights v. our inalienable rights is America's thirty years war.)
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To: c-b 1

From what I hear FTAA is due to be in effect early next year....don't know if it's a treaty or a free trade agreement. One thing I'm watching closely is what type of effect it will eventually have on our Constitution and legal system. If they attempt to mirror the EU, I know there are now serious concerns among people in those countries about how much national sovereignty was relinquished as a result of signing on to the EU. New commissions created to govern the EU supposedly have the power to hammer any country that does not toe the line on their initiatives which will be interesting considering they're working on a new EU constitution.

Soon, I expect to see the usual mainstream "mediots" to start their standard mass conditioning process replete with their unending numbers of "experts" who will have a laundry list of reasons why our Constitution is too outmoded for the new paradigm as well as the need for a "modern" legal system to replace our current one.


78 posted on 11/09/2004 2:52:12 PM PST by american spirit
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To: xsysmgr

BTTT


79 posted on 11/09/2004 2:58:04 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: tiki

I do know what the answer is, and it's the government doing its job and providing for a common defense by securing our borders, instead of trying to do good with all kinds of stupid entitlement programs.

But it'll be cold day in hell before we shut down the borders. Until the government does do its job, I'm all for the vigilantes. At least someone is defending the country.


80 posted on 11/09/2004 3:14:01 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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