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Posted on 11/10/2004 9:59:07 AM PST by Gypssy

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To: Mr Ramsbotham
"It's not the cigarette that makes him a man, but the fact that he's wearing his country's uniform, doing a dangerous job and risking his life for the sake of the folks back home."

I know that, and I agree. I thank God every day for the men and women who are doing the hard work in Iraq and Afghanistan. I was just saying, from an aesthetic point of view, I would simply find him more attactive sans cig.

61 posted on 11/10/2004 11:23:53 AM PST by kimchi lover (We voted and the world listened.)
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About time we had a ladies answer to all those Ann Coulter and Natalie Portman threads!

The use of "ladies" in this instance is unwarranted.

By all rights, the "ladies" on this thread oughta be thanking the feminazis for evening the sexual playing field and assuring the Liberation necessary to view this sort of behavior as "normal" rather than wholly immodest and unladylike acclaim for pin-ups.

You go girls! ... A Woman's Right to Pornography (Wendy McElroy).



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Modern immodesty: Extreme of immaturity; extreme of senescence

Perhaps we could best sum up this chapter by pointing out that modesty is not a matter of dressing in the dark but of living in the light, in the light of reason's moderation and beauty. Modesty turns the floodlight of reason on the internal and external activities of man; his word, his play, his dress, every detail of his life. From this point of view it is difficult to escape the conclusion that the twentieth century pagan world is an immodest world.

We are, in fact, living in a world of paradoxical extremes: on one hand we see all the sign of immaturity -- giddiness, an unbalanced interest in sex, a restless rush of childish ignorance and activity, a world without poise, without serenity, without that personal graciousness that is the mark of reason; on the other hand, there are unmistakable signs of senescence - - the world is bowed down with hopeless burdens, a world that in its less giddy moments is inclined to be desperately serious, a world chained to knowledge for its own sake, a world as much inclined to shroud itself in blankets of respectability as it is to throw off all slightest pretense of respectability and go entirely animal.

The fruits of immodesty

To say that such a world is an immodest world is to say that it is a world without high hopes or a world doomed to the crash of despair because of its impossible hopes. It means that it is a world which neglects the knowledge it should have, throws away the possibility of having any knowledge, or puts itself in the absurd position of maintaining that its knowledge is supreme.

As immodest, it is a world bereft of the affability, truthfulness and sincerity that go into the making of that serene poise and beauty established by the moderation and proportion of reason.

An immodest world means a world that is either so serious that it can find no room for fun, or so giddy that it can see no reason for anything but fun and where eventually fun itself becomes labor. It means a world where the quiet beauty and joy of dress is submerged either in a gloomy ugliness that parades as respectability or an exhibitionism whose tailor is sex.

Modesty, miracles and achievement

But our human world, after all, is not the silly world of an adolescent nor the dark, disillusioned world of a grumpy old man. Rather it is a world in which the brilliant spark of reason's order gives beauty, proportion and vitality to all the things that touch on a man's life.

It is, briefly, a modest world; a world of vigorous youth and wise serenity that is a reflection of eternal horizons. Modesty, as a matter of fact, is not a matter of hiding. Rather all immodesty is a matter of obscure, narrow places that hide its innate ugliness; it does not, in fact, ever see the world for the world is much too wide for it.

Modesty is not an impediment to labor or a phase of life from which we shall probably recover; but, like all the virtues, it is an indispensable condition for supreme labors and progress that end only at contact with the infinite. It is only in proportion to his loyalty to the commands of reason that a man can be said to have achieved.

In the natural order modesty completes virtue's natural equipment for the attainment of the fullness of human life. When modesty and its companion virtues are lifted to the supernatural order, they are the equipment for that incredible abundance of Christian life which was the purpose of God's coming amongst us.

When we go a step further into the order of the apostolic graces, man's achievements outstrip the bounds of the ordinary both in the natural and supernatural order. It is significant that the supernatural does become ordinary: and that is a tremendous statement of the full play given to the works of man.

He has such a wide scope for his powers that he accomplishes the supernatural almost as a matter of course; but under the apostolic graces, even that boundless field of the ordinary supernatural is too narrow. Here the achievements of man are astounding even for the supernatural order, for here he is the mere instrument of God.

To search for any limitations is to attempt to trace the boundaries of the goodness and omnipotence of God.

Companion to the Summa


62 posted on 11/10/2004 11:26:24 AM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: kimchi lover
I was just saying, from an aesthetic point of view, I would simply find him more attactive sans cig.

No argument here!

63 posted on 11/10/2004 11:31:47 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Gypssy
Even the NY Times is getting into the act.

ASHLEY GILBERTSON for NYT

Troops captured the mayor's office, two mosques, a commercial center and other major objectives in the heart of downtown Falluja.

64 posted on 11/10/2004 11:38:44 AM PST by surfatsixty (Proud Father of a USMC Grunt.)
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To: surfatsixty

< It's not the cigarette that makes him a man, but the fact that he's wearing his country's uniform, doing a dangerous job and risking his life for the sake of the folks back home. >

...and he deserves a smoke...


65 posted on 11/10/2004 12:07:39 PM PST by GOP_Proud (Can I git me some morals here?)
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To: Terriergal

,,, don't rate this guy on the length of his cigarette.


66 posted on 11/10/2004 12:09:28 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: BossLady

Rush was talking about this photo today.


67 posted on 11/10/2004 1:16:25 PM PST by vikingchick
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To: vikingchick

I heard it too...thats why I looked it up!!! LOL!


68 posted on 11/10/2004 1:21:40 PM PST by BossLady (A friend is one who has the same enemies as you have -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Gypssy
Yea I heard Rush and went to his web site to check out the pic. A real man ... imagine that today when we are being saturated with "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy", "Will and Grace" and oh yes, the metro male.

I feel like I've been charged up!

69 posted on 11/10/2004 1:25:26 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: Gypssy

Dang girl!

Thank you! And it wasn't even my birthday.


70 posted on 11/10/2004 1:26:28 PM PST by najida (I shop for my fillet mignon at Walmart.)
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To: johniegrad

A real man cares alot ;)

It's a selfish little boy in a mans body that doesn't.


71 posted on 11/10/2004 1:28:14 PM PST by najida (I shop for my fillet mignon at Walmart.)
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To: therut

Well,
I am older and I can't remember what my beliefs are at the moment ;)


72 posted on 11/10/2004 1:29:35 PM PST by najida (I shop for my fillet mignon at Walmart.)
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To: Gypssy

I'm married, so I really can't comment on how hot and tough and he-could-sweep-me-up-and-throw-me-over-his-shoulder-like-a-sack-of-taters-and-it-would-be-senseless-for-me-to-resist

he is, because I'm married and all. Or else I might say he's a handsome man or something like that.


73 posted on 11/10/2004 1:30:00 PM PST by eyespysomething (7 days out, and the Dems still don't get it.)
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To: eyespysomething
I'm married, so I really can't comment on how hot and tough and he-could-sweep-me-up-and-throw-me-over-his-shoulder-like-a-sack-of-taters-and-it-would-be-senseless-for-me-to-resist

he is, because I'm married and all. Or else I might say he's a handsome man or something like that.

I had my moments of fantasy today (sigh) Now back to the real world and work.

74 posted on 11/10/2004 1:34:06 PM PST by Gypssy (Smart, Womanly & Conversative! :-)~~~)
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To: kimchi lover
Yup, he's hot, but, he'd look even better without that stinky cigarette. Just my personal opinion. Married now, but, back in the day, I vowed to never date a guy who smoked. Just YUCK!

Smoking is a minor vice, but there are a heck of a lot worse things than being a smoker -- being a liberal is one.

Sigh. There is something about a man in a uniform!

75 posted on 11/10/2004 1:44:29 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Gypssy
pair of Aces...

76 posted on 11/10/2004 2:13:09 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Chode

Sexy!!! Thanks, I need to repent for all my thoughts today! haha thanks


77 posted on 11/10/2004 2:57:04 PM PST by Gypssy (Smart, Womanly & Conversative! :-)~~~)
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