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How can we contact the US military to demand the end of the embedding of reporters? (vanity)

Posted on 11/15/2004 6:04:00 PM PST by Trippin

Subject says it all. I believe that there are pro's to the embedding process, but if so many reporters are practically praying for atrocities to be committed by US troops, or hoping the Iraq war will fail, I think it is a DANGER to the troops to send the reporters with them on their missions.

As we have seen, a Marine is now being accused of a war crime for shooting an unarmed insurgent. However, it is pretty clear that the Marine was not aware of the fact that the man was injured, and given the fact that insurgents routinely fake death or injury to lure soldiers into a booby trap, I think it is a complete outrage the way the US media is handling this. This only insites more hatred and violence towrds our troops, even as they are fighting tooth and nail in Iraq.

In my opinion, the embedding process only affors the media more opportunities to villify the troops, since it is clear that practically none of the reporters embedded with the troops are prepared to report on acts of heroism.

I say we demand the embedding process to be ended, NOW!


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1 posted on 11/15/2004 6:04:05 PM PST by Trippin
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To: Trippin

It made me sick watching this report. It was worded that the Marine acted inappropriately and that the reporter himself determined the terrorist wasn't armed or a threat.


2 posted on 11/15/2004 6:07:03 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Trippin

Not to worry..unless there was some blatant execution the marine will be treated justly.


3 posted on 11/15/2004 6:07:06 PM PST by Tula Git
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To: Trippin

I hope this ratfink imbed got his microphone shoved where the sun never shines by these Marines.


4 posted on 11/15/2004 6:07:42 PM PST by soycd
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To: Tula Git

Nonetheless, the Marine is, in my opinion, unjustly being accused of a crime he may not have committed, all in the name of what? Ratings? This type of reporting only endangers the lives of all the soldiers over there because it makes them appear as heartless brutes. That's my biggest concern.


5 posted on 11/15/2004 6:09:31 PM PST by Trippin
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To: Trippin

I say we all donate to Free Republic in order to hire a full time FReeper reporter to embed with the troops instead.


6 posted on 11/15/2004 6:10:43 PM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
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To: Trippin

I think that we all need to proceed calmly on this story. Every time our country takes decisive military action the MSM finds one unfavorable incident (real or falsified) and uses it in an attempt to discredit our forces. Wedding parties massacred, precious relics looted, women's underwear misapplied, etc. After three solid years of this the American people voted solidly to stay the course behind our brave warriors and their Commander in Chief. This little kerfuffle will be no different. Steady on, FReepers!


7 posted on 11/15/2004 6:13:57 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Trippin

CNN, NBC kept on playing this story. Why didn’t they show the beheading videos? What about the 4 US contractors stung up in Falluja? What about the terrorists playing dead and then trying to shoot US troops? IMHO this Marine considers this terrorist as a threat and shot him. End of story. This is war. Call your Senator to voice your support for this Marine.


8 posted on 11/15/2004 6:14:55 PM PST by JonDavid
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To: Trippin

This reporter better keep his head down....I mean the fog of war and all.


9 posted on 11/15/2004 6:15:17 PM PST by kimoajax
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To: Trippin

I am believing that the young marine believed fully that the "insurgents" were all confirmed dead. Logically that was the only reason they would have been left unguarded.

When he saw one of the confirmed dead move, he believed the mover had been faking being dead and was going to do the marines (or the embedded photog) immediate severe, lethal harm.

That's the way I saw it.


10 posted on 11/15/2004 6:15:34 PM PST by NutmegDevil
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To: Trippin
That's my biggest concern.

..and your concern is understandable and well justified.

ON balance though, the imbeds have been far more advantageous to telling the truth than disadvantageous.

Remember the saying "the ticks have gone injun".

11 posted on 11/15/2004 6:16:17 PM PST by Tula Git
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To: Trippin

This infuriates me! Should he have waited to see if he had a hand grenade hidden under him and have some of our guys blown up? I hope that reporter doesn't need a Marine to save his sorry ass! Why are there so many out there trying to dishonor our troops? Always looking for anything to bring them and the U.S. down. I am so mad I can't hardly type. Phooey!


12 posted on 11/15/2004 6:16:25 PM PST by ok42day (America, love it or leave it!)
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To: Trippin

I agree, sometimes we are provided with too much information, pull the reporters out of the war zone, let the troops do what is necessary without the steely eyes of the bleeding heart libs peering over their shoulder watching and questioning their every move. I bet if we do that the war will be fought as it should, ended more quickly and Victory will be ours.


13 posted on 11/15/2004 6:17:25 PM PST by eagle mama (Just like in the 70's sKerry stirred up the nation then fell off of the map.)
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To: Trippin

The dude kept saying he wasn't dead...but you know how those Iraqis lie. No problemo!


14 posted on 11/15/2004 6:17:28 PM PST by kimoajax
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To: rogue yam

Ollie North is fixing to give his assessement on Hannity and that other guy. (FOX)


15 posted on 11/15/2004 6:18:34 PM PST by WTSand
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To: NutmegDevil
That's the way I saw it.

And that is exactly what happened. It is obvious the Marine thought the wounded man was a threat, and under the circumstances reacted normally.

16 posted on 11/15/2004 6:18:51 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Trippin
How do we know what this Jihadi desired? Maybe he embraced the opportunity to become a "martyr" and merge with the 72 virgins? Maybe he was already mortally wounded.

Maybe he was pulling the pin on a grenade.

Who knows?

Certainly we'd like to see the video of the >10 minutes leading up to this event, this Jihadi's record, and the other situational details.

17 posted on 11/15/2004 6:19:05 PM PST by Paladin2 (SeeBS News - We Decide, We Create, We Report - In that order! - ABC - Already Been Caught)
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To: rogue yam; Trippin
Actually, I think it was a good idea to imbed the reporters. Many good stories--including the discovery of the slaughter and torture houses in Falluja--would not have been told if it hadn't been for the imbeds.
18 posted on 11/15/2004 6:19:31 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Trippin

I agree, Kevin Sites is a disgrace. He should probably leave Iraq for his own good.


19 posted on 11/15/2004 6:19:33 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Trippin
Why no pictures of the "blonde haired woman" with her limbs cut off and throat slashed lying in the street? Why no video of the be-headings in the media here? These "reporters" need to GO!!!
20 posted on 11/15/2004 6:20:12 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: MizSterious

"Many good stories--including the discovery of the slaughter and torture houses in Falluja--would not have been told if it hadn't been for the imbeds."

Are they being told? It seems to me that they're being buried.


21 posted on 11/15/2004 6:20:28 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Tula Git

I resent that this is happening. Our media is so damn dangerous. Soldiers will die because of this bullcrap.


22 posted on 11/15/2004 6:21:27 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: NutmegDevil

That's the way I interpret this too. Perfectly rational behaviour given the circumstances, now turned into a war crime! I'm sorry, but I'm really ticked off by this. It simply isn't right for the MSM to unfairly play, judge, jury, and executioner when there are so many soldiers fighting their hearts out over there.


23 posted on 11/15/2004 6:22:08 PM PST by Trippin
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To: faithincowboys

Certainly they've been told, otherwise we wouldn't know about them, now, would we?


24 posted on 11/15/2004 6:22:53 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious

No they haven't been told. We know about it. Do the Kerry voters know? The media hasn't trumpeted it at all. We've learned about it through the conservative media.


25 posted on 11/15/2004 6:24:13 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: kimoajax

Traitor NBC photographer email address:

kevin@kevinsites.net

http://www.kevinsites.net/


26 posted on 11/15/2004 6:25:05 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: faithincowboys
You're being facetious. They've been told in some of the media, not in other parts of the media, but the fact remains, if there hadn't been some imbeds none of the media would have reported it. None.
27 posted on 11/15/2004 6:26:02 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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that reporter should've kept his mouth shut

now this bs is going to be played all over the middle east

especially on al jazeera


28 posted on 11/15/2004 6:26:02 PM PST by KavMan
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To: MizSterious

"Actually, I think it was a good idea to imbed the reporters. Many good stories--including the discovery of the slaughter and torture houses in Falluja--would not have been told if it hadn't been for the imbeds."

But surely the reporters can be driven to these sites from a central location to report on it. Why do they have to be embedded with an actual fighting unit? I agree that sometimes you get a really good report that actually describes exactly what happened at a particular event. But too many times now have I seen reporters injecting their opinion into their reporting, and that opinion is almost always slanted against the soldiers.

I'm just sick of it.


29 posted on 11/15/2004 6:26:43 PM PST by Trippin
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To: JonDavid

Or what about the footage of people jumping from a thousand feet to escape flames for the hard sudden feel of the concrete below. Odd how the MSM chooses its' atrocities....


30 posted on 11/15/2004 6:28:35 PM PST by massatoosits (just ask the Brits...)
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To: kimoajax
Bump

This reporter better keep his head down....I mean the fog of war and all.

Yep - accidents can happen . . . . oops! Too bad about what hapened to that embed!!!!!

31 posted on 11/15/2004 6:29:34 PM PST by B-Cause (Old news media is going fast - Welcome to the NEW MEDIA!)
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To: kimoajax

If you listen to the audio, it’s oblivious to me that this Marine thought that this terrorist was a threat. The Marines thought they could trust the NBC reporter. This was a big mistake. To me this NBC reporter is a Quisling.


32 posted on 11/15/2004 6:29:44 PM PST by JonDavid
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To: KavMan

Another e-mail address for the NBC traitor:

kevinsites@hotmail.com


33 posted on 11/15/2004 6:29:45 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Trippin
I'm sick of the reporting, not the practice of imbedding reporters. I think that over all, it's been more helpful than not. So far, this is the only incident I know about of negative (and possibly misleading) reporting from an imbed.
34 posted on 11/15/2004 6:30:12 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Trippin

And I'm too sick to even type.

Sure will cause other deaths of ours because they'll have to think like cops instead of war!!!


35 posted on 11/15/2004 6:36:11 PM PST by meema
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To: jimbo123
I wouldn't go harassing the reporter involved. He was given that access and he used it, for better or worse. He got his story. The Marine wasn't alone, and if he acted appropriately his story will be backed by his brothers in arms.

I wouldn't give his network an avenue to attack conservatives on this site by saying he's getting hundreds or thousands of harassing emails. Give the military some time to sort this out, and I believe you'll find the real story will win out.

TheRaven
36 posted on 11/15/2004 6:36:27 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: MizSterious

If you can't expect professional unbiased reporting, then don't embed the reporters with a fighting unit. Not only do the soldiers have one more guy to worry about, but they also have to endure propaganda from the guy they are protecting.

Unless the quality of reporting improves, I think it's time to end the practice of embedding. The reporting is so one sided, that I believe it threatens the lives of the soldiers in Iraq.

To me, embedding reporters, as a concept, is fine, but not at the cost of increasing the threat to the soldiers. They don't deserve this.


37 posted on 11/15/2004 6:36:50 PM PST by Trippin
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To: MizSterious

Please. Has it gotten anywhere the play that this story has?

So the Right has learned of the execution chambers (BFD), now all of America is being told that our guys are executioners.

To avoid the ubiquity of the latter, I'd gladly give up the former.


38 posted on 11/15/2004 6:39:40 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: NutmegDevil

I agree. I sure that's what the marines told the reporter. Being embedded with the marines,being shot at together and seeing how the terrorists try to trick US troops by playing dead for instance, the marines thought they could trust the reporter. Unfortunately, they were sadly wrong. This reporter to me is a Quisling.


39 posted on 11/15/2004 6:39:40 PM PST by JonDavid
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To: Trippin

All the Marines have to do is tell the reporter, "Okay, all is clear, you can come out in the open now.." Bang, one less stooly. End of problem.


40 posted on 11/15/2004 6:40:38 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: Trippin

Amen.

The media guy from NBC better watch his back. If that was my kid he was putting at greater risk so he could get a friggin Pulitzer, he'd be in serious trouble.


41 posted on 11/15/2004 6:41:04 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: fish hawk

Maybe it makes me a totalitarian a-hole, but I agree with you 100%.


42 posted on 11/15/2004 6:41:51 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: JonDavid

You're right. And that reporter should rot in Hell for this episode.


43 posted on 11/15/2004 6:42:53 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Trippin

I disagree. On the whole, the embedding concept has given a great many softie leftist reporters a taste for what the American Fighting Man is all about. I've seen several cases of reporters gaining a whole new respect for our military and the professionalism that they exude on a day to day basis.

I trust the American Fighting Man to look good, even on camera. If this kind of weak, lame story is the best they can come up with as some sort of "example" of alleged bad behavior... then it says volumes. I say keep the embeds.


44 posted on 11/15/2004 6:43:56 PM PST by Ramius (Time? What time do you think we have?)
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To: soycd

The Marine didn't do anything wrong.The filthy terrorist wouldn't open his eyes and seemed to be playing some sort of game.I don't know why the Marines are trusting the reporters enough to let them see everything.If they try to fry these guys we should raise hell over it.


45 posted on 11/15/2004 6:43:59 PM PST by rdcorso (Did I mention I was in Vietnam where I lost my backbone? Spineless John)
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To: Trippin

"Not only do the soldiers have one more guy to worry about"

I suspect they won't be worrying about the safety of reporters anymore. To Hell with the media rats.


46 posted on 11/15/2004 6:44:25 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: JonDavid

Re: This reporter to me is a Quisling.

IMHO - the reporter saw it differently, apparently.

He had to report it if he believed a summary execution had taken place. Combat folks can't summarily take out a wounded, unarmed combatant. Marines know better. That's why it must have been that the situation was seen as life threatening by the marine who shot the wounded combatant.


47 posted on 11/15/2004 6:45:55 PM PST by NutmegDevil
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To: Trippin

It is better to have them there, the terrorists can make up any story they want and there would be no one other than the miitary to dispute the charges.


48 posted on 11/15/2004 6:46:40 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: NutmegDevil
As did my husband and I. How could he have thought anything else? I mean really, if you're not rabid to be the one to 'get the story' that would bring down the military a peg, (they vainly hope) then the situation seems quite clear. The MARINE made the call about the danger the terrorist represented along with a dozen other variables he had to instantly take into account when he made the decision to fire

The network news isn't showing the shot he made. They say it's too graphic. Well guess what MSM, WAR is GRAPHIC. If you can't cover it with out going into hysterics over something you don't fully understand then get out. Just don't drag our men down because you can't handle the GRAPHICS

49 posted on 11/15/2004 6:47:01 PM PST by WifeMotherDaughterSister ("It's hard to leave when you can't find the door...")
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To: Trippin

Our troops will learn the lesson we learned in previous wars: You can never trust a journalist to give a fair accounting of anything he sees or hears. A journalist will arrive on the scene with a preconceived and biased agenda and will look for and report only those things that support his agenda. Never talk to a journalist. They will take your words and reconstruct them out of context to appear to support whatever agenda they are pushing. Never let them see you operate, as they will only video those things that will, when taken out of context, embarrass you, your unit, and your country.

How can you prevent embedded reporters from accompanying combat operations? If liberal-left journalists have frequent and unexplained “accidents” while accompanying your operations, they will no longer want to accompany them. Not only are liberal-left journalists liars, they are also cowards.


50 posted on 11/15/2004 6:47:57 PM PST by DJ Taylor
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