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Military investigates shooting of wounded insurgent
CNN ^ | November 16, 2004

Posted on 11/15/2004 8:57:52 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

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To: JonDavid

I get the feeling Matthews is doing this to increase his terrible ratings.


41 posted on 11/15/2004 9:32:47 PM PST by eddiebear (O tyrant, tremble at the mere mention of my name!)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

During WWII the GI's used to shoot wounded Japanese all the time because of instances where they were hiding grenades. Now we are going to crucify a GI because of a similar situation. I can already see the media run with this story with glee. No doubt the left will tie it to Donald Rumsfeld or Al Gonzalez within the week.


42 posted on 11/15/2004 9:33:01 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: Ron in Acreage

Ron, not that I disagree with your sentiments, but what's up with the use of insurgent? Terrorists are terrorists and nothing else. Lest you think I'm being overly criticle, I catch myself doing what you did and it ticks me off.

Folks, these are terrorists. They are not freedom fighters or anything other than terrorists and terrorist mercs.


43 posted on 11/15/2004 9:34:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Hey Liberal scum reporter ... what's the difference between what happened here to this combat weary Marine in the middle of Falluja, and what your super (WAR HERO) Kerry did to that wounded VC he saw fleeing that one-man ambush ??

Oh yeah ... Kerry-the-FRAUD was a rich little Ivy League elitist with a Kennedy-connection I'm certain he name-dropped on everyone ... and he cleverly found a way to pump his resume by writing himself up for a bunch of medals he didn't deserve.

EVERY swingin-Richard in my platoon had insect bites a hell of alot worse than any wound he ever claimed.

GO Swift-Vets & ex-POW's !!! And keep after his sorry-a$$'d records. Drag that Northeast-Liberal PHONY all the way out into the sunshine.

44 posted on 11/15/2004 9:35:01 PM PST by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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To: gimmebackmyconstitution
1) non uniformed combatant- Illegal!

Correct.

2) feigning injury or death in order to continue killing our soldiers

Also illegal.

3) enaging in combat while in a house of worship- Illegal!

Correct.

4) possibly a foreign national with no authority or protection under the Geneva Convention

Unlawful combatant and/or a spy. Neither one is a desirable status under the GC.

5)just prior to this alleged shooting terrorists used the illegal tactic of wiring dead bodies with I.E. D. - at that specific point in the conflict, all rules of engagement were thrown out the freaking window!

Wrong. Our rules of engagement are never thrown out the window. The military is very explicit with everyone serving in that region: If you break the law, you will be punished. The actions of the enemy will often violate the laws of land warfare, but our policy is strict adherence. I realize that's not fair, but that's how it is.

45 posted on 11/15/2004 9:35:57 PM PST by Steel Wolf (There's only three kinds of people in this world...)
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To: eddiebear

Agreed. However, IMHO he crossed the line. He is a Quisling.


46 posted on 11/15/2004 9:36:17 PM PST by JonDavid
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To: eddiebear

They can't get any lower :-)


47 posted on 11/15/2004 9:36:28 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
I didn't see their show tonight. What was their commentary?

I think that they had the correct approach. Ollie North was the guest, and they collectively agreed that they needed to reserve judgment until the facts are known; and, that there would be a thorough investigation to accomplish just that.

Col. North did allow that worst case, it could be a serious charge against the young Marine. I'm hoping for extenuating circumstances, as are most of us here.

48 posted on 11/15/2004 9:36:30 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Old crap, recycle your breath and I would be more impressed.


49 posted on 11/15/2004 9:36:43 PM PST by TexasTransplant (It is UNAmerican to put the UN before America)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
A local radio host (Ex-Marine) says, "Marines are supposed to kill people and break things."
50 posted on 11/15/2004 9:46:24 PM PST by msnimje
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

They should give this guy the benefit of the doubt...fer God's sake it a freakin' war zone with terrorists blowing themselves up right & left in there. Why the DOD lets the dumbarse media in there I'll never know. They just can't wait to film anything remotely negative or controversial for their ratings and political agenda.


51 posted on 11/15/2004 10:06:48 PM PST by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

My question is why the guy was just wounded in the first place? He should have bee killed the first timne they laid eyes on him.


52 posted on 11/15/2004 10:08:31 PM PST by ArmedNReady (Islam, the cancer on humanity.)
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To: Partisan Hack

The insurgents can try the Marquis D' Queensbury Rules and any other thing they choose. Our troops have no obligation under the Genea Convention because these criminals belong to no nation state. The rules simply do not apply.


53 posted on 11/15/2004 10:11:27 PM PST by CBart95
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To: SiVisPacemParaBellum

Lets get the ridiculous media the Hell off the battle field.
They come with preconceptions and prejudices in favor of the enemy. And they treat these stories like iust another production of COPS with blow-dried boy and girl news-readers. Screw em all.


54 posted on 11/15/2004 10:17:25 PM PST by CBart95
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

It is my humble opinion that whoever this reporter is needs to meet with an "accident"


55 posted on 11/15/2004 10:17:50 PM PST by clamper1797 (VA-93 --- CVA-41 Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72-73)
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To: Ron in Acreage

I agree! What the hell makes a prisoner according to the MSM? I say you're not a prisoner until you are shackled.


56 posted on 11/15/2004 10:22:56 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (You meet the same people on the way down as you do on the way up)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Already posted here:

Marines investigate shooting of wounded insurgent

Let's see, the situation was:

  1. other terrorists had retaken the Mosque and had to be cleaned out again
  2. many terrorists are suicide bombers
  3. terrorists hide and disguise Improvised Explosive Devices
  4. terrorists set up booby traps everywhere they can
  5. terrorists booby trap their dead and wounded
  6. terrorists fake surrendering then attack when our troops are drawn out to take the prisoners into custody
  7. terrorists fake surrendering then blow themselves up when our troops are attempt to take the prisoners into custody
  8. other terrorists had retaken the Mosque and had to be cleaned out again
  9. no intel provided that enemy wounded had already been subdued
  10. other terrorists had retaken the Mosque and had to be cleaned out again
  11. after our troops successfully storm the Mosque, they go room to room to secure each, and discover some wounded and dead enemy in the room.  They start to secure the wounded to render them harmless and an assumed dead terrorist makes a sudden move

WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

  1. ask him if he wants a cigarette?
  2. apologize for thinking he was dead?
  3. call up the chain of command for orders?
  4. ask the reporter for his recommendations?
  5. blow the #(*&^%@* terrorist's head off.

If you answered A, B, C or D:

YOU'RE DEAD!!!

MOST OF YOUR TEAM IS DEAD!!!

because if you believe in any other possible outcome, then YOU WILL FAIL TO ACT IN TIME when it really counts.  This is the way our troops are trained AND SHOULD BE trained.

JMHO

57 posted on 11/15/2004 10:25:10 PM PST by RebelTex (Freedom is Everyone's Right... ...and Everyone's Responsibility!)
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To: JonDavid

Jon! Ya done good here. That sniveling, treasonous weasel, Chris Matthews should be summarily executed.


58 posted on 11/15/2004 10:25:10 PM PST by CBart95
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To: dagoofyfoot

LOL, You're Right!!!!!
I don't think any of these terrorists should be EVER taken prisoner. Does anyone think these fellas can be rehabillitated and become productive citizens of the world some day?


59 posted on 11/15/2004 10:25:27 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (You meet the same people on the way down as you do on the way up)
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To: dila813

AMEN... this is war not a freakin' police action in South Central Los Angeles.


60 posted on 11/15/2004 10:27:17 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (You meet the same people on the way down as you do on the way up)
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