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Terraforming Mars, The Noble Experiment?
Space Daily ^
| July 13, 2004
| Interview w/Robert Zubrin
Posted on 11/22/2004 11:23:47 AM PST by RockinRight
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To: RockinRight
Science ping to read tonight at work.
To: Straight Vermonter
So each hour is 1.65 minutes longer than an Earth hour? Interesting.
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posted on
11/22/2004 11:51:10 AM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: green iguana
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posted on
11/22/2004 11:51:53 AM PST
by
RockinRight
(Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
To: sc2_ct
would terraforming and colonizing Mars simply lead to a civilization of Anemic pale guys with Melanoma? Have you ever been to Norway?
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posted on
11/22/2004 11:53:21 AM PST
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: Scythian
Why not just make Mars the conservative planet? Since it will take ingeniuity and entrepreneurship to make it work, it makes sense!
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posted on
11/22/2004 11:53:23 AM PST
by
RockinRight
(Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
To: RockinRight
True, plus Venus is in near "tidal lock" with the Sun, its day is actually longer than its year. This would present climatic extremes for humans even if we could change Venus to our liking. Mars, although its surface gravity is 38% of Earth's, is more suitable for the near-term. But I believe (the romantic idea) that we'll sidestep these worlds, due to some future propulsion tech. that will permit settling other star systems.
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posted on
11/22/2004 11:54:11 AM PST
by
eagle11
(A worthy goal: Global society founded upon individual freedom, property rights and the rule of law.)
To: RockinRight
Then the term "red planet" would have new significance!
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posted on
11/22/2004 11:55:22 AM PST
by
eagle11
(A worthy goal: Global society founded upon individual freedom, property rights and the rule of law.)
To: eagle11
Didn't think about the day length. You're right.
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posted on
11/22/2004 11:55:23 AM PST
by
RockinRight
(Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
To: eagle11
Hehe...think about those electoral maps!
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posted on
11/22/2004 11:55:41 AM PST
by
RockinRight
(Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
To: RockinRight
I take issue with Zubin's blithe assumption:
RZ: The basis of ethics needs to be of benefit to humanity.
This sets off all the warning bells and hazard lights. If the basis of ethics is "benefit to humanity," I damned well want to know how the author defines "benefits," and probably need to know whom he includes in "humanity." Any number of horrors or idiocies have been justified as being "of benefit to humanity."
Okay, maybe I'm just philosophically anal.
To: RockinRight
There have been some interesting proposals regarding Venus to hit it with ice asteroids to introduce water, blast away some of the excess atmosphere, cool the surface, and increase its rotational period from its current 116 days to something a bit more practical.
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posted on
11/22/2004 11:59:38 AM PST
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mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: RockinRight
BTW, it would be prudent to disassemble the two moons of Mars and use those resources to transform, because eventually both objects will crash into Mars. Though, I do believe there is microscopic life on Mars, small animals the size of dust mites swarming in the top soil. The rovers have instruments designed to resolve geological and nonorganic chemical issues, we will need to send rovers equipped for examing organic issues soon.
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posted on
11/22/2004 12:00:18 PM PST
by
eagle11
(A worthy goal: Global society founded upon individual freedom, property rights and the rule of law.)
To: RockinRight
There's no water on Venus There's a lot of water on Venus isn't it? It's water vapor trapped in the atmosphere though. There is no liquid water on Venus however.
Image of the surface of Venus from the Russian Venera-13 lander.
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posted on
11/22/2004 12:01:05 PM PST
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: Dunstan McShane
He's making a sound-bite response to the people who think that bacteria should override human development - those who claim that it's unethical to destroy Martian bacteria in the process of building a new branch of human civilization.
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posted on
11/22/2004 12:01:15 PM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: eagle11
You're right about the moons but it kills my fantasy-standing on the surface and seeing two moons in the sky, even if they are small and lumpy.
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posted on
11/22/2004 12:02:00 PM PST
by
RockinRight
(Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
To: mvpel
That's like saying we can't kill cows for food, IMHO.
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posted on
11/22/2004 12:02:48 PM PST
by
RockinRight
(Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
To: RockinRight
> Venus would be much more difficult.
In it's way, Venus would be *less* difficult. Notice where Venus' atmosphere reaches one standard atmosphere of pressure... and what the temperature is there.
> There's no water on Venus
There are oceans of water on Venus... trapped in the sulphuric acid. Relatively easily cracked and utilized.
> 1000 times the atmosphere we'd need, not to mention it's all CO2
All to the better.
> it would be difficult to cool it off enough to be habitable.
No need to do so whatsoever.
To: mvpel
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posted on
11/22/2004 12:04:58 PM PST
by
Crazieman
(Islam. Religion of peace, and they'll kill you to prove it.)
To: RockinRight
Don't Mess With The Martian Environment!
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posted on
11/22/2004 12:05:34 PM PST
by
johnb838
(And Allawi replied "To Hell They Will Go")
To: mvpel
He's making a sound-bite response to the people who think that bacteria should override human development - those who claim that it's unethical to destroy Martian bacteria in the process of building a new branch of human civilization.Oh. In that case, Bactine th' little microscopic scum.
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