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Fahrenheit 9/11 Marine now featured speaker of leftists events. Will not serve if ordered.
11/30/04 | Trteamer

Posted on 11/30/2004 5:26:17 PM PST by Trteamer

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To: Trteamer
Will not serve if ordered

Wait, shouldn't there be a nice court martial awaiting this "soldier"? Is Leavenworth overcrowded or something??

61 posted on 11/30/2004 8:14:10 PM PST by GOP_Raider (RAIDERS 25, Broncos 24. How you like us now Shanahan?)
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To: steplock

Thank you for your service, and you took the sentiments right out of my mouth! That was exactly what I was going to say!

How do you suppose he is viewed by other Marines????


62 posted on 11/30/2004 8:18:56 PM PST by rlmorel
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To: ApesForEvolution

He's STILL awaiting trial. It's not like the offenses at Abu Ghraib. BTW, he's tried to get a civilian court. F. him.


63 posted on 11/30/2004 8:19:33 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Trteamer

Contact your current
senators and representatives

and main stream right wing media

and find out why Hanoi Kerry still is in the US Senate.
Demand that this traitor is removed from the US Senate now!

There is no need to impeach him.

He's in violation of the
US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3
and violation of 18 USC 953
- Private correspondence with foreign governments
and UCMJ Section 904. ART. 104.
- Aiding the Enemy.

Don't be like the silent majority in the 60's and 70's
and turn your back on America and cave in to the anti war minority.
Speak up for America today!

Distribute these url's!

EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!

Full details on these url's!

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

There is a backup site
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Timeline of Hanoi Kerry

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html


64 posted on 11/30/2004 8:30:37 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Why do 99 US Senators allow a traitor in their midst? Why is right wing media silent?)
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To: edfrank_1998

"Ms. WATSON. Mr. Speaker, Abdul Henderson was called up as a Marine Reserve to go to Iraq. I am hoping and praying that he was not aboard that helicopter. As soon as I leave these Chambers, I will make a call out to Los Angeles.

He is the son of one of my employees. We saw him off."

Good find...So he's connected to Dianne Watson? Well, knock me over with a feather.


65 posted on 11/30/2004 8:41:14 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Trteamer
With the presidential election around the corner Mr. Henderson's message is a must hear and should not be taken lightly

December 5th is the date of the "presidential election around the corner"?

66 posted on 11/30/2004 8:46:06 PM PST by zip ((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans))
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Looks like they are expecting at least 10 people to the rally.

That's 10 more (excluding press) than showed up for Edwards' front porch meeting during the campaign.

67 posted on 11/30/2004 8:48:29 PM PST by zip ((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans))
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To: weegee

...and the Koran he rode in on...


68 posted on 11/30/2004 8:54:08 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Trteamer


Sorry Moderator, I can't find the censored version!
69 posted on 11/30/2004 8:57:09 PM PST by American_4_Ever (America; Land Of Freedom and Oppurtunity. If you don't like it here, then get the hell out!)
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To: loboinok
Armed with documents citing outstanding performance and several service medals during his five years as a reservist

I'll take a wild guess here. On one of his annual performance evaluations, not all of the categories he was ranked on were marked "mediocre". One of them - "Quality of Work Done While on Latrine Duty" was marked "Outstanding work in diligently keeping the porcelain consistently gleaming white".

As to the "several service medals," I'll guess they consisted of the "One Year Service Award," the "Two Year Service Award," and the "Re-enlistment Service Award".

70 posted on 11/30/2004 9:07:18 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: Trteamer

I have a solution for that, a little thing I like to call a court martial.

Funny thing the military has no sense of humor when it comes to things like disobeying orders.

I had a flight chief in Korea how like to say, "I can't make you it it, but I can make you wish you had."


71 posted on 11/30/2004 10:10:27 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: Trteamer
My understanding is he may not dress as shown above in his uniform and correct me if I am wrong can he not be disciplined in a major way for this? Just asking.
72 posted on 11/30/2004 10:20:12 PM PST by BellStar (Should those NBA Players be Prosecuted ? Poll http://www.kemah.net)
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To: Agitate
Privileges of Issa Al-Massih (Jesus Christ): God supported Issa with the Holy Spirit (Al-Baqara 2:87). He was described as a Word from God, granted a position of honor in this world and in the hereafter, and considered as one of those who are near to Allâh (Al-e-Imran 3:45).

This I believe is blaspheme!
73 posted on 11/30/2004 10:30:00 PM PST by BellStar (Will you spend more on gifts this year than last year? Poll http://www.kemah.net)
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To: GunnyB
Corporal Henderson joins the likes of Scott Ritter

Has Scott Ritter burned through his bribe money yet? Has he found a new sponsor?

74 posted on 12/01/2004 5:56:15 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Trteamer

Okay, looking at this picture, looks like he has the following "Awards" from upper left to right going down on his ribbon bar: Navy Achievement Medal, Combat Action Ribbon, Presidential Unit Citation, National Defense Medal, Navy and USMC Overseas Service Ribbon and Armed Forces Reserve Medal. The Shooting Iron below them denotes him as a Rifle Marksman (or Pistol Marksman, I can't read the print on the bar)...so I don know what the heck they mean by "outstanding performance and several service citations". For a guy who's been in the Reserves for only 5 years, if he has this "outstanding performance", where's his Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal? He should have gotten one at the 3rd year of service if he's such an "outstanding" performer.

For what he should be brought up on UCMJ-wise, I would hazard a guess that it should be Article 87 (missing movement) since he has stated that if he gets ordered to go back to Iraq that he will not serve, then tack on an Article 92 (Failure to Obey a Lawful Order), then to top it off, give him an Article 134 (General Article) which is the catch all for what this guy is doing. I'm sorry, but Navy Regs expressly FORBID any member of the Navy and Marine Corps to appear at any kind of political rally in uniform.


75 posted on 12/01/2004 6:53:38 AM PST by shredderman
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To: Trteamer

Here's the Navy Regulations on this subject:

Members of the Armed Forces are prohibited by various provisions of titles 10, 2, and 18, United States Code (references (b), (g), and (h)), from engaging in certain types of political activities. The statutory provisions most directly applicable to members of the Armed Forces are as follows:

"Title 10 U.S.C. Sec. 973. Duties: officers on active duty; performance of civil functions restricted

"(a) No officer of an Armed Force on active duty may accept employment if that employment requires him to be separated from his organization, branch, or unit, or interferes with the performance of his military duties.

"(b)(1) This subsection applies--

(A) to a Regular officer of an Armed Force on the active-duty list (and a Regular officer of the Coast Guard on the active duty promotion list);

(B) to a retired Regular officer of an Armed Force serving on active duty under a call or order to active duty for a period in excess of 270 days; and

(C) to a Reserve officer of an Armed Force serving on active duty under a call or order to active duty for a period in excess of 270 days.

(2)(A) Except as otherwise authorized by law, an officer to whom this subsection applies may not hold, or exercise the functions of, a civil office in the Government of the United States--

(i) that is an elective office;

(ii) that requires an appointment by the President by and with the advice and consent of the Senate; or

(iii) that is a position in the Executive Schedule under sections 5312 through 5317 of title 5.

(B) An officer to whom this subsection applies may hold or exercise the function of a civil office in the Government of the United States that is not described in subparagraph (A) when assigned or detailed to that office or to perform those functions.

(3) Except as otherwise authorized by law, an officer to whom this subsection applies may not hold or exercise, by election or appointment, the functions of a civil office in the government of a State, the District of Columbia, or a territory, possession, or commonwealth of the United States (or of any political subdivision of any such government).

(4) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to invalidate any action undertaken by an officer in furtherance of assigned official duties.

"(c) An officer to whom subsection (b) applies may seek and hold nonpartisan civil office on an independent school board that is located exclusively on a military reservation.

"(d) The Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Transportation with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating in the Navy, shall prescribe regulations to implement this section."

"Title 2 U.S.C. Sec. 441a. Limitations on contributions and expenditures

"(a) Dollar limits on contributions

(1) No person shall make contributions--

(A) to any candidate and his authorized political committees with respect to any election for Federal office which, in the aggregate, exceed $1,000;

(B) to the political committees established and maintained by a national political party, which are not the authorized political committees of any candidate in any calendar year which, in the aggregate, exceed $20,000; or

(C) to any other political committee in any calendar year which, in the aggregate, exceed $5,000.

(2) No multicandidate political committee shall make contributions--

(A) to any candidate and his authorized political committees with respect to any election for Federal office which, in the aggregate, exceed $5,000;

(B) to the political committees established and maintained by a national political party, which are not the authorized political committees of any candidate, in any calendar year, which, in the aggregate, exceed $15,000; or

(C) to any other political committee in any calendar year which, in the aggregate, exceed $5,000.

No individual shall make contributions aggregating more than $25,000 in any calendar year. For purposes of this paragraph, any contribution made to a candidate in a year other than the calendar year in which the election is held with respect to which such contribution is made is considered to be made during the calendar year in which such election is held.

For purposes of the limitations imposed by this section, all contributions made by a person, either directly or indirectly, on behalf of a particular candidate, including contributions which are in any way earmarked or otherwise directed through an intermediary or conduit to such candidate, shall be treated as contributions from such person to such candidate. The intermediary or conduit shall report the original source and the intended recipient of such contribution to the Commission and to the intended recipient.
. . . . "

"Title 2 U.S.C. Sec. 441f. Contributions in the name of another prohibited

"No person shall make a contribution in the name of another person or knowingly permit his name to be used to effect such contribution, and no person shall knowingly accept a contribution made by one person in the name of another person."

"Title 2 U.S.C. Sec. 441g. Limitation on contribution of currency

"No person shall make contributions of currency of the United States or currency of any foreign country to or for the benefit of any candidate which, in the aggregate, exceed $100, with respect to any campaign of such candidate for nomination for election, or for election, to Federal office."

"Title 2 U.S.C. Sec. 592. Troops at polls

"Whoever, being an officer of the Army or Navy, or other person in the civil, military, or naval service of the United States, orders, brings, keeps, or has under his authority or control any troops or armed men at any place where a general or special election is held, unless such forces be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States, shall be fined not more than $5,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both; and be disqualified from holding any office of honor, profit, or trust under the United States.

"This section shall not prevent any officer or member of the Armed Forces of the United States from exercising the right of suffrage in any election district to which he may belong, if otherwise qualified according to the laws of the State in which he offers to vote."

"Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 593. Interference by Armed Forces

"Whoever, being an officer or member of the Armed Forces of the United States, prescribes or fixes or attempts to prescribe or fix, whether by proclamation, order or otherwise, the qualifications of voters at any election in any State; or

"Whoever, being such officer or member, prevents or attempts to prevent by force, threat, intimidation, advice or otherwise any qualified voter of any State from fully exercising the right of suffrage at any general or special election; or

"Whoever, being such officer or member, orders or compels or attempts to compel any election officer in any State to receive a vote from a person not legally qualified to vote; or

"Whoever, being such officer or member, imposes or attempts to impose any regulations for conducting any general or special election in a State, different from those prescribed by law; or

"Whoever, being such officer or member, interferes in any manner with an election officer's discharge of his duties--

"Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both; and disqualified from holding any office of honor, profit or trust under the United States.

"This section shall not prevent any officer or member of the Armed Forces from exercising the right of suffrage in any district to which he may belong, if otherwise qualified according to the laws of the State of such district."

"Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 594. Intimidation of voters

"Whoever intimidates, threatens, coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, at any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing such candidate, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."

"Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 596. Polling Armed Forces

"Whoever, within or without the Armed Forces of the United States, polls any member of such forces, either within or without the United States, either before or after he executes any ballot under any Federal or State law, with reference to his choice of or his vote for any candidate, or states, publishes, or releases any result of any purported poll taken from or among the members of the Armed Forces of the United States or including within it the statement of choice for such candidate or of such votes cast by any member of the Armed Forces of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.

"The word 'poll' means any request for information, verbal or written, which by its language or form of expression requires or implies the necessity of an answer, where the request is made with the intent of compiling the result of the answers obtained, either for the personal use of the person making the request, or for the purpose of reporting the same to any other person, persons, political party, unincorporated association or corporation, or for the purpose of publishing the same orally, by radio, or in written or printed form."

"Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 602. Solicitation of political contributions

"It shall be unlawful for--

(1) a candidate for the Congress;

(2) an individual elected to or serving in the office of Senator or Representative in, or Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress;

(3) an officer or employee of the United States or any Department or Agency thereof; or

(4) a person receiving any salary or compensation for services from money derived from the Treasury of the United States to knowingly solicit any contribution within the meaning of section 301(8) of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 from any other such officer, employee, or person. Any person who violates this section shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."

"Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 603. Making political contributions

"(a) It shall be unlawful for an officer or employee of the United States or any Department or Agency thereof, or a person receiving any salary or compensation for service from money derived from the Treasury of the United States, to make any contribution within the meaning of section 301(8) of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to any other such officer, employee or person or to any Senator or Representative in, or Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress, if the person receiving such contribution is the employer or employing authority of the person making the contribution. Any person who violates this section shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

"(b) For purposes of this section, a contribution to an authorized committee as defined in section 302(e)(1) of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 shall be considered a contribution to the individual who has authorized such committee."

"Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 606. Intimidation to secure political contributions

"Whoever, being one of the officers or employees of the United States mentioned in section 602 of this title, discharges or promotes, or degrades, or in any manner changes the official rank or compensation of any other officer or employee, or promises or threatens so to do, for giving or withholding or neglecting to make any contribution of money or other valuable thing for any political purpose, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."

"Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 607. Place of solicitation

"(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to solicit or receive any contribution within the meaning of section 301(8) of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 in any room or building occupied in the discharge of official duties by any person mentioned in section 603, or in any navy yard, fort, or arsenal. Any person who violates this section shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

"(b) The prohibition in subsection (a) shall not apply to the receipt of contributions by persons on the staff of a Senator or Representative in, or Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress, provided, that such contributions have not been solicited in any manner which directs the contributor to mail or deliver a contribution to any room, building, or other facility referred to in subsection (a), and provided that such contributions are transferred within seven days of receipt to a political committee within the meaning of section 302(e) of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971."

"Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 609. Use of military authority to influence vote of member of Armed Forces

"Whoever, being a commissioned, noncommissioned, warrant, or petty officer of an Armed Force, uses military authority to influence the vote of a member of the Armed Forces or to require a member of the Armed Forces to march to a polling place, or attempts to do so, shall be fined in accordance with this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. Nothing in this section shall prohibit free discussion of political issues or candidates for public office."


76 posted on 12/01/2004 6:55:44 AM PST by shredderman
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To: Trteamer

HHHHMMMM wonder if he's considering the presidency in the year 2035?


77 posted on 12/01/2004 7:00:02 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Andy from Beaverton

and he has 3 purple hearts....


78 posted on 12/01/2004 7:40:48 AM PST by mondoman (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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79 posted on 12/01/2004 7:48:06 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Trteamer
...saying that he would not return to Iraq if ordered to do so...

How is it that he is allowed to continue in his current position? This would seem to be something worthy of a dishonorable discharge. Or some sort of reprimand. To show up places as a 'speaker' claiming to be in our armed services and announcing to cheers of the lefties that he won't go if ordered when that is the purpose of his belonging to the organization, well it seems contradictory at best, or just treasonous. Does he say what he will do, if ordered? What makes him think he can choose? There is no draft, many have just not enlisted if it conflicted with their convictions. He's a coward.

80 posted on 12/01/2004 8:55:04 AM PST by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune - and I won't have to.)
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