Skip to comments.TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO DECEMBER, 2004 DAILIES THREAD: NEWS DIGEST & GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM
Posted on 11/30/2004 8:06:26 PM PST by cyn
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Judges are out of control!! Have you read this story?
Thanks for that link to the A&E blurb, Chocolate Rose.
As I said, I didn't see the program, but I've read a couple of "reviews" on other discussion forums, and they seem to indicate that the A&E program was not favorable to the Schindlers or our position on this situation. My friend, who is on the opposite side of this issue, seemed to feel "it was fine, just fine." I guess that I should have known right then that it was NOT fine.
I've written (e-mail) to A&E to ask for either a future air date (so I can watch it for myself, as well as record it) or to purchase a copy of the program. No response from them yet.
I think the devil must have a condo on the Gulf Coast of Florida.
Seriously... he does some of his best work over here.
It is SO STUPID THAT STARS ARE CONSIDERED A RELIGIOUS SYMBOL. Well, then TAKE DOWN THE NIGHT SKY!!!!!
Contact info for Jack Thompson is here, in his 2003 letter to Jeb Bush about Terri :
(jpg of him here: http://money.cnn.com/2003/01/29/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/thompson.jpg )
Bob Marshall is not someone about whom I have any knowledge. floriduh voter at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1291663/posts?q=1&&page=251#288 mentions an email address for him, and might be able to help you.
This particularly Law & Order episode has been aired at least twice. Last Saturday's showing was the 2nd time I've seen it. It's kind of a flip-flop of Terri's situation -- hubby trying to save wife (who's connected to high-tech equipment) and parents, convinced that daughter, wife, mother, is PVS, have been seeking to have her disconnected. No low-tech feeding tube. Disabled wife never speaks, but has eyes open and gazes widely around the room during story. As the episode ends, family members, sans hubby, are shown gathered around, mother sitting on daughter's bed, and a possible interpretation is conveyed that the parents and grandson are perhaps rethinking their PVS contention. Best I can say for the episode is that it brings the subject into many households. But it's a convoluted, contorted misunderstanding of Terri's situation -- and that's probably due to slanted reporting. Last night I talked with a friend in NC who was under the impression that Terri's disability was caused by an automobile accident. Just goes to show. I cited a lot of facts for my friend to consider. Opened his eyes.
Terri ping! If anyone would like to be on/off my Terri ping list, please let me know here or by FReepmail!
Did you see www.theempirejournal.com is still hammering away at Baird and Greer?
Regarding Judicial Watch and Larry Klayman, he may have already filed something as a friend of the court in one of Terri's cases. I may be wrong but why do I have a recollection of this? Anyone know?
It's chilly here. They BEST have Terri all bundled up and heat on instead of the a/c.
MORE NEWS FROM TAMPA BAY. A friend of mine in California recorded the A & E program and is going to send it to me as an attachment. We'll find a place to host it and put the url here. I've heard that they over-emphasized that Terri was a chubby baby (so was floriduh voter) and "diet pills". There's much more to Terri's story than that.
It's a giant leap for A & E to infer that a chubby baby (blame the victim) is the reason all these men in black robes are trying to take her life now. When her so called advocate (Michael and Felos) turned on her, a sick betrayal, the judges were waiting to crank out their baseless orders to take her rehab money and then her very life.
Long live Terri! Trolls be gone!
Here here.. who is going to organize this?
About 10/20 or 10/21/2003, my husband and I FAXed this statement to Jeb Bush and also to WorldNetDaily and Judicial Watch's Miami office.
Governor Jeb Bush
FAX: 850 / 487-0801
Dear Governor Bush:
It is incomprehensible to us that you, a Catholic and declared champion for the disabled during your last gubernatorial campaign, are condoning judicial tyranny and doing nothing to stop this cruel and inhumane death sentence arrived at outside of the criminal justice system. Despite Victim Rights appearing as one of the concerns you authorized to be listed at the Governor's Initiatives and Special Interests webpage (http://www.myflorida.com/myflorida/government/governorinitiatives/index.html) site, it is now obvious to the whole world that political cover was more important to you than saving Terri Schindler-Schiavo's life.
Because of your "at arms length" handling of Terri's situation, yesterday's opinion poll about you at WorldNetDaily received 5380 votes by early AM 10/21. 66.08% of those voting view you negatively. Your political career may be permanently affected unless you demonstrate ethical and moral courage and intervene.
We have recently heard of the easy to prove or disprove belief that, since 1998, when Pinellas County Circuit Court Judge George Greer began his current term as judge, he did not and may still have not filed the oath of office required by Florida law -- Title XLVI, Chapter 876, section 876.05:
Public employees; oath.--
[legal texts cut to shorten posting length]
If that is the situation, then sections 876.06:
of the same title and chapter, are pertinent. If the Department of Management Services does not have an executed oath of office on file for Judge Greer, he will have lacked authority to issue rulings and all subsequent rulings based on Judge Greer's initial order are void. Your cautious observance of a "separation of powers" doctrine, as you have stated and held to in press releases, becomes an invalid position.
Outraged and likely to be ex-Republicans,
Somewhere around that timeframe, JW's president, Tom Fitton, FAXed a high-profile citizen request to a FL agency (Social Services as I remember) for action to be taken to save Terri's life and initiate an investigation. I believe it was, at one time, posted at Terrifight.org. You're probably recollecting JW's legal intervention request.
If anyone wants the URLs for the cut legal texts, please let me know.
You beat us in the midwest! Only eight below zero here, and biting wind chills!! Bring on the hot chocolate!!
Empire Journal is doing a great job on Greer and Baird! I'm trying to see what I can do to get more coverage of this story locally. I'd like to see it go nationwide. I'd like to see all the misconceptions about Terri's case get brought out to see the light of day. It's amazing how many people I've spoken with about Terri who have such wrong information about her. Most of them still think she's in a coma, and attached to a ventilator or something similar. To me that just shows how damaging the media's lies about Terri early on have hurt Terri. People still think of her as a nearly lifeless lump. How wrong they are!! When I tell them the truth about Terri, they are sympathetic and don't understand why they've been misled by the media. That's why it's so important for us to not give up getting the word out, and I am grateful that Empire Journal is doing such a great job digging up this vital information!
Thanks, you are so kind!
The true story is that of Terri's parents and siblings. They see Terri and after all this time, can assess whether she's doing well or not so well. I was shocked that Judge Baird wrote in an order that Terri's parents had not proven they had an interest in Terri's Law. Apparently, Judge Baird knows nothing about the bond between parent and child or about faith. Judge Baird and Judge Greer are bottom dwellers. How did they become above the law? How did they become THE LAW?
Feeding tubes started during or after the Civil War. Terri is "not hooked up to machines" which means that she can be mobile, i.e. go outside but she is held in one room like she's in a prison cell. I've heard that Hospice is closing the blinds in her room citing concerns that she will be filmed. IMO, the are closing Terri's blinds to cause even more sensory deprivation... FV
I think Jeb heard you last year. We had to use the GOP card to help Terri, even in 2004 re: the presidential election. This is about prayer and politics, strange bedfellows in the past but now, a MUST.
Just e-mailed http://www.theempirejournal.com/documents_of_schiavo_judges_give.htm to Drudge and requested he look into it. Don't have a lot of hope, but recommend everyone do the same. A little national coverage would sure help right now, and this is probably a slow time for Drudge.
Please visit Terri's Official Web Site: www.terrisfight.org or sign up to help at firstname.lastname@example.org (a national coalition). Thanks, FV
POSTERS & LURKER: PLEASE CHECK OUT POST #6. It's Terri and she's not in a vegetative state, she's not brain dead. She's listening to her doctor give her spsecific instructions and she's following them.
Will the SCOTUS accept or reject Governor Bush's appeal?
I think that's a good idea! We need to keep e-mailing these articles to various media people. Keep it on their radar. Someone will eventually pick this up and get the ball rolling. Kudos to Scoop 1 for pounding the pavement on this important story!
If that doesn't work, try Eagle Awards 2004. 100 words or less. Thanks, FV
There's also a nomination thread that I posted on thanking everyone. FV
It's time for you to be recognized for your efforts. 100 words of less.
Terri ping to 330! The following thread is what FV is referring to in her post. You must FReepmail your nomination(s) to Eagle Award 2004. Do not post it to the thread, it won't count that way. I think nominating Terri's FReepers as a group is a great way to go!
TERRI'S FREEPERS have generated hundreds of threads since 2003 and thousands of posts and WE ARE STILL GOING STRONG, some freeping for Terri through FOUR HURRICANES. lol Thanks. FV
Thanks for the url, OFF. NOMINATE TERRI'S FREEPERS. GO FOR IT! freepmail to the author at the thread url ohioanfromflorida posted above this post.
Terri's Freepers can nominate the group for an Annual Free Republic Eagles Award. See posts 330 and 333. Thanks, floriduh voter
YOU CAN NOMINATE TERRI'S FREEPERS FOR AN EAGLES 2004 AWARD. Please see 330 and 333 to follow the rules. Thanks, floriduh voter (Let's go for it and give Terri's parents and siblings extra Christmas cheer). We're still here for them! FREEPMAILS ONLY.
So I freepmailed them something else but not this KEY PIECE. SOMEONE PLEASE FREEPMAIL THE FOLLOWING TEXT TO THE AUTHOR on the thread at #333.
"Just do a FR search under Terri Schindler-Schiavo which validates that Terri is one popular American. Freepers for Terri should at least get honorable mention. Governor Bush's Terri's Law has been sent to the U.S. Supreme Court and we await their decision on whether they will accept Jeb Bush's appeal or reject it.
WE ARE FIGHTING JUDICIAL TYRANNY HERE IN FLORIDA to slow down euthanasia which is trending on the West Coast at this time. Euthanasia is illegal in Florida but that doesn't stop the Sixth Circuit Court Judges in Pinellas County from ordering same."
96 WORDS. DO I HAVE A COPY AND FREEPMAIL VOLUNTEER for what is in the quotes?
Drudge so far isn't into any Terri news. The closest we can get is Ann Coulter who has her own web site and so does Laura Ingraham. They are both on Terri's side and Laura Ingraham is a big fan of Governor Bush.
Several years ago the Ginsburg Court refused to hear a similar plea from the forces supporting Terri. Incredibly though this Souter Court affirms a national "right to abortion," it says that euthanasia is a matter for "the states." On this old Anthony Kennedy Court, it's ultimately whatever Sandra Day O'Connor says, but preferably if it is in line with John Paul Stevens' Chicago school of liberalism or Stephen Breyer's Boston style of socialism.
If it isn't their life hanging in the balance, judges at any level would rather choose death, wouldn't they, (even though the most vulnerable should have the best protections).
A "Terri Supporter" is anyone who has tried anything to HELP to try and save the life of this disabled woman from being further victimized, exploited and denied her constitutional and legal rights -- even for the next minute.
Terri Schiavo at no time, and in no way said that 'she would not want to live this way so make me dead'. Nor did she say to criminally deny me all therapies such that I am prevented from getting better and having to live this way because of no therapies. Terri certainly knew then and may very well know now that these acts to harm are a violation of her Catholic faith and teaching, criminal and would also be 'suicide words' that would and do require assistance.
To do that, to act on those kinds of suicidal based *wish words, is a Life Felony crime in the state of Florida. And that is what the Felosers want for all of us through this victimizing of Terri.
The efforts of grassroots Terri Supporters, which could be now a billion dollars worth of volunteer hours, while seemingly intentionally blocked by public officials of all types, nonetheless, has only caused a digging in deeper state of resolve by The People, to stop these merchants of deathmaking -- the MoD's goal of using vulnerable victims like Terri Schindler-Schiavo for the furtherance of their bigger agenda -- in using government bodies to destroy our constitutional Right To Life by securing Legalized Euthanasia for them upon us all.
These greater conspired and corrupt activities are just the kinds FORBIDDEN as fs876 Crimes Against the Public that rise to levels warranting charges of treason, anarchy, subversives and murderers.
What are the avenues afforded by the public to seek its Relief and Redress, on behalf of a fellow citizen being illegally caged, kidnapped and exploited, when OUR own public servants ignore the evidences of committed crimes and pleas for active protection of a citizen so outrageously and heinously oppressed?
FV SAYS: This opinion piece on but I have only excerpted same. It is my belief that LOBBYING IN PERSON IS ANOTHER AVENUE WE MUST TAKE if we are stonewalled in other attempts to get justice for Terri. This writer whom I have posted here suggested emails, phone calls and lobbying "in person". That of course depends upon where we are and other logistics.
Please sign up at email@example.com. A new project is being set up to contact Pat Boone through that email address. If you google PAT BOONE, he's familiar with similar circumstances to Terri's.
BUMP to 337
Thanks for the bump! It is 59 degrees in Terriville tonight.
This thread 330 and 333 re: nominating Terri's Freepers as a group for Private Citizen Category. Freepmail: eagle awards 2004 (screen name).
Will do fv. God knows you all deserve it!
I wish there were some way to sneak into that cell and whisk her away - far, far away from Michael.
There's a maxim of law pertaining to preservation of life which (to the best of my knowledge) no written law has rendered illegal or unlawful. For example, a person or persons is/are lost in a forested area and encounter an unoccupied cabin (perhaps with provisions). To avoid perishing because of exposure or lack of sustenance, breaking into the cabin is "excused". Compensation for property damage is required, but criminal charges are typically waived due to circumstances.