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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO DECEMBER, 2004 DAILIES THREAD: NEWS DIGEST & GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM
various sources | 12/1/04 | various sources

Posted on 11/30/2004 8:06:26 PM PST by cyn

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To: tbritton

http://www.aetv.com/global/listings/episode_detail.jsp?EAirId=12173323&page=listings


301 posted on 12/19/2004 5:30:58 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Dante3

Judges are out of control!! Have you read this story?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1301785/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1304350/posts


302 posted on 12/19/2004 5:42:57 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Chocolate Rose

Thanks for that link to the A&E blurb, Chocolate Rose.

As I said, I didn't see the program, but I've read a couple of "reviews" on other discussion forums, and they seem to indicate that the A&E program was not favorable to the Schindlers or our position on this situation. My friend, who is on the opposite side of this issue, seemed to feel "it was fine, just fine." I guess that I should have known right then that it was NOT fine.

I've written (e-mail) to A&E to ask for either a future air date (so I can watch it for myself, as well as record it) or to purchase a copy of the program. No response from them yet.

Tee


303 posted on 12/19/2004 6:42:05 PM PST by tbritton
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To: Scoop 1; Ohioan from Florida; cyn
There was such an outcry in Pasco County that the Christmas Trees went back up but NO STARS OR ANGELS because that would be against sep of church and state.

I think the devil must have a condo on the Gulf Coast of Florida.

Seriously... he does some of his best work over here.

306 posted on 12/20/2004 9:08:25 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter

It is SO STUPID THAT STARS ARE CONSIDERED A RELIGIOUS SYMBOL. Well, then TAKE DOWN THE NIGHT SKY!!!!!


307 posted on 12/20/2004 9:09:43 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: trustandobey; All

Contact info for Jack Thompson is here, in his 2003 letter to Jeb Bush about Terri :

(jpg of him here: http://money.cnn.com/2003/01/29/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/thompson.jpg )

Bob Marshall is not someone about whom I have any knowledge. floriduh voter at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1291663/posts?q=1&&page=251#288 mentions an email address for him, and might be able to help you.


309 posted on 12/20/2004 9:46:43 AM PST by l.tecolote (doing what I can from California)
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To: Chocolate Rose; All

This particularly Law & Order episode has been aired at least twice. Last Saturday's showing was the 2nd time I've seen it. It's kind of a flip-flop of Terri's situation -- hubby trying to save wife (who's connected to high-tech equipment) and parents, convinced that daughter, wife, mother, is PVS, have been seeking to have her disconnected. No low-tech feeding tube. Disabled wife never speaks, but has eyes open and gazes widely around the room during story. As the episode ends, family members, sans hubby, are shown gathered around, mother sitting on daughter's bed, and a possible interpretation is conveyed that the parents and grandson are perhaps rethinking their PVS contention. Best I can say for the episode is that it brings the subject into many households. But it's a convoluted, contorted misunderstanding of Terri's situation -- and that's probably due to slanted reporting. Last night I talked with a friend in NC who was under the impression that Terri's disability was caused by an automobile accident. Just goes to show. I cited a lot of facts for my friend to consider. Opened his eyes.


310 posted on 12/20/2004 10:22:00 AM PST by l.tecolote (doing what I can from California)
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To: Scoop 1; floriduh voter; phenn; cyn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; ...

Terri ping! If anyone would like to be on/off my Terri ping list, please let me know here or by FReepmail!


312 posted on 12/20/2004 12:59:41 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; pc93; tutstar; Scoop 1; MagnoliaMS
Hi, OFF. Am still getting the bugs out of my new IP server. I couldn't instant message for the past four days but finally figured it out.

Did you see www.theempirejournal.com is still hammering away at Baird and Greer?

Regarding Judicial Watch and Larry Klayman, he may have already filed something as a friend of the court in one of Terri's cases. I may be wrong but why do I have a recollection of this? Anyone know?

It's chilly here. They BEST have Terri all bundled up and heat on instead of the a/c.

MORE NEWS FROM TAMPA BAY. A friend of mine in California recorded the A & E program and is going to send it to me as an attachment. We'll find a place to host it and put the url here. I've heard that they over-emphasized that Terri was a chubby baby (so was floriduh voter) and "diet pills". There's much more to Terri's story than that.

It's a giant leap for A & E to infer that a chubby baby (blame the victim) is the reason all these men in black robes are trying to take her life now. When her so called advocate (Michael and Felos) turned on her, a sick betrayal, the judges were waiting to crank out their baseless orders to take her rehab money and then her very life.

Long live Terri! Trolls be gone!

313 posted on 12/20/2004 1:12:59 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: Scoop 1; All
"In America do we starve handicap people to death?" Mr. Schiavo (Michael's brother Steve) clearly replies, "Yes we do." in radio interview with Glenn Beck 10/2002
314 posted on 12/20/2004 2:24:04 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: tutstar

Here here.. who is going to organize this?


315 posted on 12/20/2004 2:34:29 PM PST by pc93
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To: l.tecolote

try bob.marshall@trincomm.org


316 posted on 12/20/2004 2:48:50 PM PST by pc93
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To: floriduh voter

About 10/20 or 10/21/2003, my husband and I FAXed this statement to Jeb Bush and also to WorldNetDaily and Judicial Watch's Miami office.

Governor Jeb Bush
Florida Capitol
FAX: 850 / 487-0801

Dear Governor Bush:

It is incomprehensible to us that you, a Catholic and declared champion for the disabled during your last gubernatorial campaign, are condoning judicial tyranny and doing nothing to stop this cruel and inhumane death sentence arrived at outside of the criminal justice system. Despite Victim Rights appearing as one of the concerns you authorized to be listed at the Governor's Initiatives and Special Interests webpage (http://www.myflorida.com/myflorida/government/governorinitiatives/index.html) site, it is now obvious to the whole world that political cover was more important to you than saving Terri Schindler-Schiavo's life.

Because of your "at arms length" handling of Terri's situation, yesterday's opinion poll about you at WorldNetDaily received 5380 votes by early AM 10/21. 66.08% of those voting view you negatively. Your political career may be permanently affected unless you demonstrate ethical and moral courage and intervene.

We have recently heard of the easy to prove or disprove belief that, since 1998, when Pinellas County Circuit Court Judge George Greer began his current term as judge, he did not and may still have not filed the oath of office required by Florida law -- Title XLVI, Chapter 876, section 876.05:

Public employees; oath.--

[legal texts cut to shorten posting length]

If that is the situation, then sections 876.06:

876.08:

and 876.09:

of the same title and chapter, are pertinent. If the Department of Management Services does not have an executed oath of office on file for Judge Greer, he will have lacked authority to issue rulings and all subsequent rulings based on Judge Greer's initial order are void. Your cautious observance of a "separation of powers" doctrine, as you have stated and held to in press releases, becomes an invalid position.

Outraged and likely to be ex-Republicans,

Somewhere around that timeframe, JW's president, Tom Fitton, FAXed a high-profile citizen request to a FL agency (Social Services as I remember) for action to be taken to save Terri's life and initiate an investigation. I believe it was, at one time, posted at Terrifight.org. You're probably recollecting JW's legal intervention request.

If anyone wants the URLs for the cut legal texts, please let me know.


317 posted on 12/20/2004 3:28:53 PM PST by l.tecolote (doing what I can from California)
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To: Scoop 1

You beat us in the midwest! Only eight below zero here, and biting wind chills!! Bring on the hot chocolate!!


319 posted on 12/20/2004 4:54:00 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter

Empire Journal is doing a great job on Greer and Baird! I'm trying to see what I can do to get more coverage of this story locally. I'd like to see it go nationwide. I'd like to see all the misconceptions about Terri's case get brought out to see the light of day. It's amazing how many people I've spoken with about Terri who have such wrong information about her. Most of them still think she's in a coma, and attached to a ventilator or something similar. To me that just shows how damaging the media's lies about Terri early on have hurt Terri. People still think of her as a nearly lifeless lump. How wrong they are!! When I tell them the truth about Terri, they are sympathetic and don't understand why they've been misled by the media. That's why it's so important for us to not give up getting the word out, and I am grateful that Empire Journal is doing such a great job digging up this vital information!


320 posted on 12/20/2004 8:24:51 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: pc93

Thanks, you are so kind!


321 posted on 12/21/2004 6:36:03 AM PST by trustandobey (Now is the time to keep Hillary from being President)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; All
OFF, right you are. Even the A & E program which I missed but someone is sending it to me went down the wrong path according to many accounts.

The true story is that of Terri's parents and siblings. They see Terri and after all this time, can assess whether she's doing well or not so well. I was shocked that Judge Baird wrote in an order that Terri's parents had not proven they had an interest in Terri's Law. Apparently, Judge Baird knows nothing about the bond between parent and child or about faith. Judge Baird and Judge Greer are bottom dwellers. How did they become above the law? How did they become THE LAW?

It's appalling.

322 posted on 12/21/2004 6:41:19 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: l.tecolote

Feeding tubes started during or after the Civil War. Terri is "not hooked up to machines" which means that she can be mobile, i.e. go outside but she is held in one room like she's in a prison cell. I've heard that Hospice is closing the blinds in her room citing concerns that she will be filmed. IMO, the are closing Terri's blinds to cause even more sensory deprivation... FV


323 posted on 12/21/2004 6:43:43 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: l.tecolote

I think Jeb heard you last year. We had to use the GOP card to help Terri, even in 2004 re: the presidential election. This is about prayer and politics, strange bedfellows in the past but now, a MUST.


324 posted on 12/21/2004 6:45:52 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: cyn; floriduh voter; Scoop 1; All

Just e-mailed http://www.theempirejournal.com/documents_of_schiavo_judges_give.htm to Drudge and requested he look into it. Don't have a lot of hope, but recommend everyone do the same. A little national coverage would sure help right now, and this is probably a slow time for Drudge.


325 posted on 12/21/2004 6:48:13 AM PST by trustandobey
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To: cyn; All; JulieRNR21; russesjunjee; Dante3; Wampus SC; Theodore R.; FR_addict; pc93; ...
Views as of today's date: Over 2,700 views. Help us top November's views which were over 6,000 views. DROP BY THIS TERRI'S DAILY DECEMBER THREAD AT YOUR CONVENIENCE and maximize the views by forwarding this link to your friends.

Please visit Terri's Official Web Site: www.terrisfight.org or sign up to help at fight4terri@aol.com (a national coalition). Thanks, FV

326 posted on 12/21/2004 6:51:48 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: FL_engineer; cyn; All

POSTERS & LURKER: PLEASE CHECK OUT POST #6. It's Terri and she's not in a vegetative state, she's not brain dead. She's listening to her doctor give her spsecific instructions and she's following them.


327 posted on 12/21/2004 6:53:35 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: cyn; nickcarraway; NYer; Saundra Duffy; Lauren BaRecall; Scoop 1; Dixielander
MOSES AT THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT. WHAT WOULD MOSES DO?

Will the SCOTUS accept or reject Governor Bush's appeal?

328 posted on 12/21/2004 7:22:21 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: trustandobey; Scoop 1

I think that's a good idea! We need to keep e-mailing these articles to various media people. Keep it on their radar. Someone will eventually pick this up and get the ball rolling. Kudos to Scoop 1 for pounding the pavement on this important story!


329 posted on 12/21/2004 7:25:31 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; nickcarraway; NYer; sweetliberty; russesjunjee; pc93; Lesforlife; Scoop 1; ...
Please NOMINATE TERRI'S FREEPERS FOR THE PRIVATE CITIZEN EAGLES 2004 Award by freepmail to: Eagle Award 2004.

If that doesn't work, try Eagle Awards 2004. 100 words or less. Thanks, FV

330 posted on 12/21/2004 8:15:38 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: trustandobey; PrepareToLeave
Please freepmail: "Eagle Award(s) 2004" - with or without the "s" and nominate Terri's Freepers as a group for a Private Citizen Eagles Award for 2004. Terri's Freepers are still going strong into 2005. We started our efforts as you know in the summer of 2003. 100 words or less

There's also a nomination thread that I posted on thanking everyone. FV

331 posted on 12/21/2004 8:18:10 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: All
FREEPMAIL screen name "EAGLE AWARDS 2004" to nominate Terri's Freepers for a Group Award... Thanks, floriduh voter

It's time for you to be recognized for your efforts. 100 words of less.

332 posted on 12/21/2004 8:20:20 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter; phenn; cyn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; Deo volente; ...

Terri ping to 330! The following thread is what FV is referring to in her post. You must FReepmail your nomination(s) to Eagle Award 2004. Do not post it to the thread, it won't count that way. I think nominating Terri's FReepers as a group is a great way to go!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1305570/posts?page=11#1


333 posted on 12/21/2004 8:22:18 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: l.tecolote; Scoop 1; fiesti; Saundra Duffy; Lauren BaRecall; wisconsinconservative; tutstar
See my posts about the Eagle Awards 2004 up above. 100 words or less PRIVATE REPLY/FREEPMAILED to eagle awards 2004 screen name.

TERRI'S FREEPERS have generated hundreds of threads since 2003 and thousands of posts and WE ARE STILL GOING STRONG, some freeping for Terri through FOUR HURRICANES. lol Thanks. FV

334 posted on 12/21/2004 8:23:00 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: Ohioan from Florida; amdgmary

Thanks for the url, OFF. NOMINATE TERRI'S FREEPERS. GO FOR IT! freepmail to the author at the thread url ohioanfromflorida posted above this post.


335 posted on 12/21/2004 8:25:00 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: okokie; freepertoo; FR_addict; Wampus SC; Schiminie; lilypad; TOUGH STOUGH; ordinaryguy; ...

Terri's Freepers can nominate the group for an Annual Free Republic Eagles Award. See posts 330 and 333. Thanks, floriduh voter


336 posted on 12/21/2004 8:28:07 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: trussell; windchime; trustandobey; pickyourpoison; codyjacksmom; T'wit; Ciexyz; Artlover; ...

YOU CAN NOMINATE TERRI'S FREEPERS FOR AN EAGLES 2004 AWARD. Please see 330 and 333 to follow the rules. Thanks, floriduh voter (Let's go for it and give Terri's parents and siblings extra Christmas cheer). We're still here for them! FREEPMAILS ONLY.


337 posted on 12/21/2004 8:31:06 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Chocolate Rose
I need someone to copy and paste this to the screen name for the nominating thread. I posted this instead of freepmailing it which was a boo boo.

So I freepmailed them something else but not this KEY PIECE. SOMEONE PLEASE FREEPMAIL THE FOLLOWING TEXT TO THE AUTHOR on the thread at #333.

"Just do a FR search under Terri Schindler-Schiavo which validates that Terri is one popular American. Freepers for Terri should at least get honorable mention. Governor Bush's Terri's Law has been sent to the U.S. Supreme Court and we await their decision on whether they will accept Jeb Bush's appeal or reject it.

WE ARE FIGHTING JUDICIAL TYRANNY HERE IN FLORIDA to slow down euthanasia which is trending on the West Coast at this time. Euthanasia is illegal in Florida but that doesn't stop the Sixth Circuit Court Judges in Pinellas County from ordering same."

96 WORDS. DO I HAVE A COPY AND FREEPMAIL VOLUNTEER for what is in the quotes?

338 posted on 12/21/2004 8:37:40 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: trustandobey

Drudge so far isn't into any Terri news. The closest we can get is Ann Coulter who has her own web site and so does Laura Ingraham. They are both on Terri's side and Laura Ingraham is a big fan of Governor Bush.


339 posted on 12/21/2004 8:39:05 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter

Several years ago the Ginsburg Court refused to hear a similar plea from the forces supporting Terri. Incredibly though this Souter Court affirms a national "right to abortion," it says that euthanasia is a matter for "the states." On this old Anthony Kennedy Court, it's ultimately whatever Sandra Day O'Connor says, but preferably if it is in line with John Paul Stevens' Chicago school of liberalism or Stephen Breyer's Boston style of socialism.


340 posted on 12/21/2004 10:20:58 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Theodore, I agree. If the SCOTUS rejects the appeal, it is back to our House & Senate and Governor to do a BILL THTA COVERS ALL DISABLED and VOIDS MUCH OF JIM KING'S LEGACY. More than just Terri are at risk. More than just Floridians are at risk.

If it isn't their life hanging in the balance, judges at any level would rather choose death, wouldn't they, (even though the most vulnerable should have the best protections).

341 posted on 12/21/2004 11:08:40 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: tutstar; Scoop 1; Ohioan from Florida
Anonymous Rant which is based upon facts. Ignore us and we will go away. That is not about to happen.

A "Terri Supporter" is anyone who has tried anything to HELP to try and save the life of this disabled woman from being further victimized, exploited and denied her constitutional and legal rights -- even for the next minute.

Terri Schiavo at no time, and in no way said that 'she would not want to live this way so make me dead'. Nor did she say to criminally deny me all therapies such that I am prevented from getting better and having to live this way because of no therapies. Terri certainly knew then and may very well know now that these acts to harm are a violation of her Catholic faith and teaching, criminal and would also be 'suicide words' that would and do require assistance.

To do that, to act on those kinds of suicidal based *wish words, is a Life Felony crime in the state of Florida. And that is what the Felosers want for all of us through this victimizing of Terri.

The efforts of grassroots Terri Supporters, which could be now a billion dollars worth of volunteer hours, while seemingly intentionally blocked by public officials of all types, nonetheless, has only caused a digging in deeper state of resolve by The People, to stop these merchants of deathmaking -- the MoD's goal of using vulnerable victims like Terri Schindler-Schiavo for the furtherance of their bigger agenda -- in using government bodies to destroy our constitutional Right To Life by securing Legalized Euthanasia for them upon us all.

These greater conspired and corrupt activities are just the kinds FORBIDDEN as fs876 Crimes Against the Public that rise to levels warranting charges of treason, anarchy, subversives and murderers.

What are the avenues afforded by the public to seek its Relief and Redress, on behalf of a fellow citizen being illegally caged, kidnapped and exploited, when OUR own public servants ignore the evidences of committed crimes and pleas for active protection of a citizen so outrageously and heinously oppressed?

FV SAYS: This opinion piece on but I have only excerpted same. It is my belief that LOBBYING IN PERSON IS ANOTHER AVENUE WE MUST TAKE if we are stonewalled in other attempts to get justice for Terri. This writer whom I have posted here suggested emails, phone calls and lobbying "in person". That of course depends upon where we are and other logistics.

Please sign up at fight4terri@aol.com. A new project is being set up to contact Pat Boone through that email address. If you google PAT BOONE, he's familiar with similar circumstances to Terri's.

342 posted on 12/21/2004 12:43:02 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter

BUMP to 337


344 posted on 12/21/2004 2:08:52 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Thanks for the bump! It is 59 degrees in Terriville tonight.


345 posted on 12/21/2004 4:01:26 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: Salvation

This thread 330 and 333 re: nominating Terri's Freepers as a group for Private Citizen Category. Freepmail: eagle awards 2004 (screen name).


346 posted on 12/21/2004 4:21:43 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: cyn; amdgmary; phenn
Terri after her injury. She certainly looked well when someone was allowed to properly groom her and fix her hair and makeup. She's kept in old lady style housecoats and even that small detail is disturbing to me. She's stuck in a room in an old lady housecoat even though there's no real reason she can't go anywhere!
347 posted on 12/21/2004 4:37:20 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter

Will do fv. God knows you all deserve it!


348 posted on 12/21/2004 9:03:11 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: floriduh voter
She's stuck in a room in an old lady housecoat even though there's no real reason she can't go anywhere!

I wish there were some way to sneak into that cell and whisk her away - far, far away from Michael.

349 posted on 12/22/2004 12:46:55 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: AnimalLover

There's a maxim of law pertaining to preservation of life which (to the best of my knowledge) no written law has rendered illegal or unlawful. For example, a person or persons is/are lost in a forested area and encounter an unoccupied cabin (perhaps with provisions). To avoid perishing because of exposure or lack of sustenance, breaking into the cabin is "excused". Compensation for property damage is required, but criminal charges are typically waived due to circumstances.


350 posted on 12/22/2004 3:17:50 AM PST by l.tecolote (doing what I can from California)
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