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'Ocean's Twelve' Stars on 'Moral Values'
ABCnews ^ | 12/02/04 | ABCnews

Posted on 12/02/2004 8:34:57 AM PST by Pikamax

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To: Bushite

That Cuban Americans are all republicans is not as true as it used to be. The last time I saw the statistics, their vote was typically breaking about 50/50.


61 posted on 12/02/2004 9:07:31 AM PST by skeeter
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To: GianniV

CZJ is an R. Documented here somewhere on FR.


62 posted on 12/02/2004 9:09:00 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
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To: Borges

No, there aren't any good intelligent actors. Let's not sugar coat it. Really. They're pretty dumb as individuals. What they have -- either by training or gift is a mechanism that allows them to wipe away who they are. Try that some time and you'll see have difficult it is. Read a piece of Shakespeare out loud -- Richard III, say-- and forget who you are -- all self-awareness. Maybe self-awareness is tied to intelligence, I don't know.

Brando Trivia Bonus: during Brando's run of Street Car on Broadway, the critics were enraptured by his performance. Particularly, they loved the way he would cast his eyes upward when delivering some of his lines. A brilliant acting choice? No. He couldn't remember all of his lines, so the director had cue cards up on the ceiling.


63 posted on 12/02/2004 9:09:29 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Borges

Buzz is bad on this movie. No preview screenings yet.


64 posted on 12/02/2004 9:10:52 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: durasell

Well you can't make a blanket statement. David Duchovny of the X Files was a Doctoral candidate in English Literature before he left to be an actor. Was Laurence Olivier stupid? Jack Lemmon struck me as an intelligent man. George C Scott...so forth


65 posted on 12/02/2004 9:11:50 AM PST by Borges
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To: Pikamax
"We are actually, all of us, conservative, not liberal, whatever"

Sure, George, right. Now go play with your million dollar toys.

66 posted on 12/02/2004 9:13:33 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: GianniV
I wasted enough time reading what the meat heads had to say, hoping to pick up some insight into CZJ. Not a bit.

But if they want to know what the difference between Us and Them, all they need to do is look at CZJ's hubby.
67 posted on 12/02/2004 9:14:36 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Borges

David Duchovny isn't what you would call a real actor. He's from that William Shatner school of dramatics. And, yeah, Olivier from all accounts wasn't that bright. Neither was Jack Lemmon. They could "act" bright, but that's different. And not to say they weren't nice guys. It has something to do with the "craft," it doesn't allow for depth of intellect. Hitchcock knew this and used it to his advantage.


68 posted on 12/02/2004 9:16:59 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Borges

I have to run out to work. Truthfully, I like discussions on acting etc. If you want to continue it later, let me know via email. Cheers!


69 posted on 12/02/2004 9:18:50 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

The conventional wisdom suggests that to be a great actor you have to understand human nature, psychology and so forth. Which suggests intelligence. I suppose all around intelligence isn't rarely granted to people who have an exteme gift in one particular field. Beethoven's letters show his intellect to have been pretty ordinary to say the least.


70 posted on 12/02/2004 9:19:33 AM PST by Borges
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To: marty60

P.S. -my sister lives in L.A. and reports that she sees Andy Garcia with his wife and brood of children at mass every Sunday.


71 posted on 12/02/2004 9:21:12 AM PST by clarissaexplainsitall (stewed tomatoes are just plain gross)
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To: peacebaby
Asked why they thought so many actors were Democrats, Clooney responded rhetorically, "Why are so many African-Americans Democrats? I think it has to do with tolerance."

"True tolerance is not a total lack of judgment. It's knowing what should be tolerated -- and refusing to tolerate that which shouldn't." --Charles Colson

72 posted on 12/02/2004 9:22:41 AM PST by tx_eggman ("All I need to know about Islam I learned on 09/11/01" - Crawdad)
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To: skeeter

Wrong....Bush won 82% of the Cuban vote in 2000....he got.....Yep....82% in 2004....

That is Florida Statistics.....if you add in the New Jersey Cubans.....the vote is 72% Republican.....


73 posted on 12/02/2004 9:23:03 AM PST by Bushite
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To: clarissaexplainsitall

Good, now I can see his movies in peace.


74 posted on 12/02/2004 9:24:36 AM PST by marty60
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To: Borges

Michael Douglas is a long time supporter of the UN, promoting a UN initiative on gun control worldwide. He has been quoted as saying "Our focus in this country is on gun control."

He has also contributed heavily to the Bradley and Gore campaigns.


75 posted on 12/02/2004 9:25:29 AM PST by shibumi (John Galt is alive and well. He tends bar in a casino restaurant.)
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To: Borges

It also helps if you're psychotic.


76 posted on 12/02/2004 9:27:45 AM PST by shibumi (John Galt is alive and well. He tends bar in a casino restaurant.)
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To: Pikamax
Garcia said he just hopes everyone in America wants to celebrate different views, which he called the most American thing of all.Yeah, I remember being taught about the Lincoln-Douglas "celebration" on C-Span.
77 posted on 12/02/2004 9:27:56 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Paradox

When you are surrounded by folks who tell you what you want to hear 24/7 and are good time friends, in a career choice where those with the most talent are not guaranteed any sort of success... of course your world view is going to be skewed. Entertainment is one of the few areas where someone with mega talent can be stuck waitressing their entire life, but someone without an ounce of talent can become a household name. Its a world completely removed from reality.

You get paid ungodly amounts of money for work that is hardly worth the cash, so they wind up feeling guilty over it as well and placate this by various "social" activities... unfortunatley they start to think that everyone should feel guilty as well.


78 posted on 12/02/2004 9:28:36 AM PST by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: clarissaexplainsitall

Andy Garcia is a Republican. He is one of the good guys. The rest are all liberal, USA traitor, Democrat vermin!!! As for the movie "Ocean's Twelve", I suspect there will be no need to boycott it. I think that it, like "Alexander" is going nowhere. The movie I want see destroyed is "Meeting the Fockers" starring Robert DeNiro (Amazing that the great DeNiro has sunk so low!) and Barbra Streisand.


79 posted on 12/02/2004 9:29:20 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: TChris

Celebrity.intelligence = nil


80 posted on 12/02/2004 9:30:35 AM PST by RolandBurnam
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