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Leukemia Pill Shows 86 Percent Remission
MSNBC.com ^ | Dec. 5, 2004 | Reuters

Posted on 12/05/2004 5:12:13 PM PST by fritzz

Leukemia Pill designed to help patients not cured by a successful drug know as Gleevec works better than doctors had hoped.

Rumors of the new drug's success have been leaking for months,because cancer experts are so excited by the results.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cancer; cure; health; leukemia; remission
Just keeps getting better and better.
1 posted on 12/05/2004 5:12:13 PM PST by fritzz
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To: vanburen

Ping


2 posted on 12/05/2004 5:16:32 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: fritzz

Damn evil drug companies. [/sarcasm]


3 posted on 12/05/2004 5:17:18 PM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: vanburen; neverdem

Sorry Vanburen, wrong ping.


4 posted on 12/05/2004 5:18:49 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: jigsaw

Now if they would just make the Canadians pay for this stuff.


5 posted on 12/05/2004 5:20:04 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: jigsaw

Exactly! It won't be six months after this med is released before some pinhead will be decrying the cost of modern medicine. Nevermind that a cure may have resulted from the R&D and commercial sales of the product. Either death would have been preferred, or the socialist promise of a free ride will be resurected once again.


6 posted on 12/05/2004 5:21:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: fritzz

The miracles of modern chemistry.


7 posted on 12/05/2004 5:22:50 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: fritzz
This is great news. We're living in interesting times, aren't we?

My family has been touched by chronic myeloid leukemia TWICE. First my mom in 1980 and then my mother-in-law in 1990. We were told at M.D. Anderson that this type of leukemia skips every other generation which would put our kids at greatest risk.

Knowing there's a possible cure now gives me great hope.

Thanks for the article.

8 posted on 12/05/2004 5:26:15 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: All

(sarcasm)Bristol-Myers-Squibb....isn't it that Canadian drug company?(/sarcasm)


9 posted on 12/05/2004 5:27:58 PM PST by TerriHaute
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To: DoughtyOne; jigsaw

I'd give every dime I own to turn back the clock 31 years and give my dad the chance of beating leukemia with this type of drug.


10 posted on 12/05/2004 5:30:59 PM PST by kstewskis (Political correctness is intellectual terrorism.......M Gibson)
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To: moondoggie

We been touched with AML which caused by radiation. 30 years ago most Leukemia patients were considered terminal illnesses.


11 posted on 12/05/2004 5:35:04 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: fritzz

Great news. Thanks.


12 posted on 12/05/2004 5:37:45 PM PST by zarf
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To: kstewskis

That's a normal human response. It's the healthy response IMO.

Take care.


13 posted on 12/05/2004 5:39:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: fritzz
My father, aged 53, died of acute myeloblastic leukemia in 1980. At the time I remember thinking that someday there will no doubt be a cure and I wondered how I'd feel about it.

I'm delighted. Deeply wish it had been available for him, but glad for all the others who will be helped.

Now that I'm 50 myself I realize just how young 53 is.

14 posted on 12/05/2004 5:40:03 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: kstewskis
I'd give every dime I own to turn back the clock 31 years and give my dad the chance of beating leukemia with this type of drug.

Amen! Blessings to your Dad. I'm sure he's smiling on you for your thinking of him with such love.

15 posted on 12/05/2004 5:42:45 PM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: fritzz
Two decades ago, I had the privilege of serving on the Board of the Leukemia Society of America. At that time we were raising money for research and other help, in hopes of getting half of the people with the disease to survive at least five years. This is magnificent news.

Congressman Billybob

Click for latest, "Appointing Justices to the Supreme Court."

16 posted on 12/05/2004 5:43:28 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: M. Thatcher

I'm winning the battle so far with AML. Wish your dad had the stuff I have.

I'd love to see 53 again.


17 posted on 12/05/2004 5:44:02 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: Congressman Billybob

We've come a long way. 80% Remission rate with AML.


18 posted on 12/05/2004 5:46:08 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: fritzz

It's wonderful news for patients and their families who all suffer when a person becomes ill with Leukemia. The sad part is that the general public think they are going to get miracle drugs like these without having to actually pay for them. People scream about high drug prices, but they must realize that drug companies must do R &D, trials, and then if approved, all of the costs associated with the manufacturing/distribution of the product. Lump all the R & D and trials that ultimately fail into the cost of the new successful drug as well. That cost must
be spread out across the board in order to feed the new R & D and trials that the companies are always doing looking for the next billion+ club for a new drug.


19 posted on 12/05/2004 5:47:15 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: fritzz
I'm winning the battle so far

Good news. Continued blessings and good health to you.

20 posted on 12/05/2004 5:48:43 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: DoughtyOne

thanks, D.O.


21 posted on 12/05/2004 5:50:28 PM PST by kstewskis (Political correctness is intellectual terrorism.......M Gibson)
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To: jigsaw

thanks for your kind thoughts, jigsaw! ;)


22 posted on 12/05/2004 5:51:07 PM PST by kstewskis (Political correctness is intellectual terrorism.......M Gibson)
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To: conservativecorner

Agree. I would just like other countries to share in the cost of developement by paying equal purchase price.

When I was having my chemo I paid $25 a pill to keep my food down. I would have paid double. Zoefran I think it was. Spelling is not even close.


23 posted on 12/05/2004 5:53:27 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: fritzz

closer to 90 percent. (86%, that is, is closer to 90)
give it a few more years... and it will be 98 percent.

Certain types of cancer, appear they are going down to defeat in America. At some point there may even be a simple gene splice that we can use to take care of it in a week or two... In less time than it takes to get over a bad case of mono.

God-willing... and apparently he is.


24 posted on 12/05/2004 5:58:45 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (real republicans WIN.)
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To: fritzz

I agree 100%, and you bring up a point I missed in my post. We subcidize the rest of the world when it comes to developing drugs, and it's not fair to Americans. How about we kick the UN out, and make other countries pay their fair share. A man can always dream. :>)


26 posted on 12/05/2004 6:00:17 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: jigsaw

Man I know the feeling, My mother died of leukemia in 2002. That medicine may beat this one is sweet for those at risk.


27 posted on 12/05/2004 6:02:30 PM PST by Issaquahking ( Bush won, PROTECT OUR BORDER'S- NOW! We'll handle the PC and the ACLU losers.)
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To: Velveeta; Calpernia; Revel; nw_arizona_granny

It's good to know this drug exists.

The last infusion worked fir my sis.

Just before Thanksgiving we got the news that my sister is in complete remission from her CML. Last time it lasted 12 years. We're praying that she will be that blessed again.


28 posted on 12/05/2004 6:10:38 PM PST by StillProud2BeFree
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To: Robert_Paulson2
86 is closer to 90. This includes children, which we have done wonders. I saw some bitty kids in the hospital. Their parents would pull then around in a wagon and the 3 or 4 year olds would drag their iv lines behind them. They were very sick, but no one told them, so the just laughed and giggled. It changed my prospective on life...they were just beautiful.
29 posted on 12/05/2004 6:11:38 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: DoughtyOne
It won't be six months after this med is released before some pinhead will be decrying the cost of modern medicine.

From what I can see, Bristol-Myers Squibb really does plow profits from advertised but non-essential products like pravachol (good product, perhaps, but a generic alternative may do the job) into potential dramatic life-savers like this one. I wouldn't compare BMS to companies that only go after easier markets. I do think there are some expensive types of health care the government does not need to pay for, but if you want to pay for them out of your own pocket fine. I pray the OP product works as well when tested with more patients, and, if so, it will be worth a high priced charged. Of course, they won't be advertising this one on TV because they won't need to.

Also, if it was up to me, I would approve this drug for sale today. Let the independent university-based docs continue the research as they will, by all means, but there is no need to force BMS to do further research that will only jack up the eventual price. In any event, best use of the drug can only be determined after approval.

30 posted on 12/05/2004 6:11:43 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To: jigsaw
Damn evil drug companies. [/sarcasm]

Yep, think of all the good paying health care jobs that will be lost because of these cures. [sarcasm]

31 posted on 12/05/2004 6:20:39 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: fritzz
They were very sick, but no one told them, so the just laughed and giggled. It changed my prospective on life...they were just beautiful.

I know what you mean, beautiful they are...

33 posted on 12/05/2004 6:24:37 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: M. Thatcher
My father, aged 53, died of acute myeloblastic leukemia in 1980.

This is for CML not AML that your father had
34 posted on 12/05/2004 6:33:32 PM PST by uncbob
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To: fritzz

When I finished medical school, leukemia was 100% fatal. Those cured can thank me. I wore out my knees praying for them.


35 posted on 12/05/2004 6:58:22 PM PST by Savage Beast (The only thing that can save the Democrat Party is Truth--the very thing that will destroy it.)
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To: uncbob

This article is about CML, but AML has had almost the same improvement for cure. In the 80's basically, it was how much time do they have, and, now it's "Are they in full remission".


36 posted on 12/05/2004 7:18:40 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: Floyd R Turbo

Thanks.


37 posted on 12/05/2004 7:19:06 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: Savage Beast

I had the best treatment, but I know there were a lot of sore knees helping me.


38 posted on 12/05/2004 7:22:36 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: Steve Eisenberg

I suspect this med will be approved 'on the fast-track'. If it's as good as they say it is, and the side effects don't show up early, it would be almost unethical to withhold it.

I exist today because a simple inexpensive tablet was R&D's a number of decades ago. I believe in R&D and am not about to whine because the cost of being healthy is helping to pay for the development of the product.

There will be a number of phenomical gene related medical advances over the next couple of decades. I'll be pleased as can be to extend my good health or life by paying a reasonable cost for them, even if it turns into a bit of a struggle to do it.


39 posted on 12/05/2004 7:25:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

Thank you for sharing with us.

It is indeed wonderful news.


40 posted on 12/05/2004 7:40:30 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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To: fritzz

Truly amazing times. Four years or so ago, my boss was diagnosed with CML. Gleevec has been an absolute wonder drug for him, total remission. What's really amazing is that prior to Gleevec, CML was a terminal diagnosis.

Its great knowing that they've now got another promising drug in the wings for those who don't respond to Gleevec.


41 posted on 12/05/2004 7:47:21 PM PST by Slainte
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To: Slainte
All the leukemia cancers have had super new drugs. Now we need some good news for brain, breast, etc, etc. It is interesting now how they do cancerous tumors. They use to do surgery first and then chemo and radiology. Now they shrink down the tumor first with chemo, then do surgery.
42 posted on 12/05/2004 7:51:56 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: Vic3O3

Ping!

Semper Fi


43 posted on 12/05/2004 8:11:44 PM PST by dd5339 (A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
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To: Slainte
Seven years ago, my sister received a bone marrow treatment for CML. She celebrated her seventh "birthday" in November. No sign of Lukemia and no signs of rejection.

Thank God for research, and Fred Hutchins Cancer Research Hospital in Seattle.

.Her doctors called it the most boring case of Lukemia they had ever seen. Pray for the day they are all that boring...

44 posted on 12/05/2004 10:08:35 PM PST by snowtigger
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To: fritzz
God bless you. (Evidently He already has.) I can still weep for the people I knew and loved and wanted so desperately to get well.

Miracles happen. I know of two bona fide cases of incurable cancer (one metastatic melanoma and one metastatic colon carcinoma) that were miraculously cured.

I don't know why all aren't, but I do know that there is a purpose, that God answers prayers, and that many hideous diseases that were incurable just a few years ago are now curable.

Even now my eyes are filled with tears.

Western Civilization is not perfect, but it is in tune with truth, and the only truth is God and God's truth.

The world is in a historic, global struggle between enlighted Western Civilization and the forces of darkness and superstition. There is truly a clash of civilizations.

Western Civilization is well worth defending.

While we in the West are transplanting hearts and discovering truths that will cure diseases as long as the printed page can last, Muslims, locked in darkness and committed to false dogma above everything else, are blowing things up, committing suicide, and doing their best to avoid truth. They have nothing to offer.

This is one struggle that we must win.

45 posted on 12/06/2004 6:09:49 AM PST by Savage Beast (The only thing that can save the Democrat Party is Truth--the very thing that will destroy it.)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

This is wonderful news!


46 posted on 12/06/2004 6:35:57 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Savage Beast

Many good thoughts to consider. Thank you for your input and may god bless you.


47 posted on 12/06/2004 7:48:59 AM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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