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What Japanese Women Want: A Western Husband
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | December 6, 2004 | Bennett Richardson

Posted on 12/06/2004 9:12:18 AM PST by MississippiMasterpiece

TOKYO – The Japanese government wants women like Taeko Mizuguchi to get married and start doing something about the nation's plunging birthrate. But she's not interested.

At least, not if her prospective husband is Japanese.

A growing number of Japanese women are giving up on their male counterparts, and taking a gamble that looking abroad for love will bring them the qualities in a partner that seem rare at home. Mr. Right, as the hope goes, is often an American or European, a man appreciative of a wife's career and more of a partner in daily tasks.

"They treat you like equals, and they don't hesitate to express mutual feelings of respect - I think Western men are more adept [at such things] than Japanese men," says the 36-year-old Ms. Mizuguchi, who works at a top trading firm. "They don't act like women are maids - I think they view women as individuals."

Underscoring that Japanese women are losing hope with the local boys, dating agencies to help snag a Western husband have sprung up in Tokyo, some with branches in the US and Europe. Such companies rigorously vet their clients, screening for education, family background, occupation, and life goals.

The kind of women who sign up for such services include doctors, lawyers, and other professionals - women who have delayed marriage to concentrate on careers and who aren't keen to give up hard won gains to become a housewife, as many Japanese men expect.

Japanese women have come to consider traditional marriage roles as "disadvantageous in terms of time resources - they have to carry the burden of domestic chores as well as lose their free time," says Chizuko Ueno, a professor of sociology at Tokyo University.

Normally, married Japanese women have not only to look after their own parents during old age, but also to care for their parents-in-law. When it comes to raising kids, "they can't expect much cooperation from their partner" because of the long work hours required at many Japanese corporations and because of established gender roles that assume that the woman does the child-rearing, Ms. Ueno adds.

A generation of women who are now entering their 30s don't want to give up single life unless prospective partners are willing to break from traditional gender roles.

Government polls conducted to find out why women have put off marriage until well after 25 years of age - known as a woman's " 'best before' date" - show that economic independence is key to the change. As most Japanese women have their own income, marriage is no longer a financial necessity and women want to find companionship in a husband.

That is where Japanese men have come up short. There is "a wide gap in men's and women's attitudes and expectations toward marriage" vis-à-vis traditional gender roles, says Sumiko Iwao, professor of social psychology at Musashi Institute of Technology in Yokohama. For instance, coming home later than your Japanese husband is a no-no.

Having ruled out an old-fashioned Japanese husband, many women here think the solution is a Western man. Indeed, some seem so enthralled with the idea that they are willing to spend thousands of dollars to inspect the wares personally. Of the more than 2,000 women on the books at one large matchmaking agency, about 200 travel to the US or Europe each month to meet prospects.

Sentimental projections have recently been extended to Korean men also, due to romantic Korean soap operas.

In 2003, Japanese women marrying American or British men outnumbered Japanese men marrying American or British women by 8 to 1. The total proportion of Japanese marrying foreigners each year has crept up from around 3.5 percent in 1995 to just over 5 percent. Japanese men are actually more than three times as likely as the women to take a foreign spouse, but this is mostly rural men marrying less well-off Chinese and Filipino women. "Such cases are elderly farmers not popular among young Japanese women," says Yuriko Hashimoto, a local government employee in the remote northern prefecture of Iwate.

To be fair, not all the blame for female angst here can be laid on Japanese men. The government has been slow to enforce equal opportunity laws, and both pay and the glass ceiling in most Japanese corporations remain low for women. Recession has hampered longer maternity leave and other family-friendly policies.

As Japan's fertility rate drops to new lows - at last count it was 1.29, well below levels required for population replacement - the ruling Liberal Democratic Party is anxiously drawing up plans to make it easier for young couples to raise children, through such measures as the provision of cheap public housing.

Mixed marriages in Japan

Japanese men marry:
Chinese 10,242 Filipinos 7,794 Koreans 2,235 Americans 156 British 65

Japanese women marry:
Koreans 5,318 Americans 1,529 Chinese 890 British 334 Filipinos 117

Source: 2003 Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare


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To: Centurion2000

I'll roll the dice on that one.....


251 posted on 12/06/2004 11:00:48 AM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
It is hard to talk about things without making a lot of generalizations.

We make generalizations because they are useful, so long as we understand that they aren't universally applicable.

252 posted on 12/06/2004 11:00:59 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: HairOfTheDog
You're right, the 'domineering jerks looking for women who ain't uppity' would be nothing without the American green cards that make them bearable.... for a while.

So, are American men who take foreign brides all domineering jerks?

253 posted on 12/06/2004 11:02:00 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: Fatalis

You also percieve that all American females are hags, shrews, and no doubt want to marry a man just to ruin his life. That's the wrong perception I'm referring to.

I'm not going to bash men just to make things equal here, but I certainly hope you're not married, if your opinion of women is so low.


254 posted on 12/06/2004 11:02:08 AM PST by JenB (I will not turn into a snake. It doesn't help.)
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To: Bella_Bru

Marry up and don't like women bigger than they are.. or at least what they perceive to be bigger.


255 posted on 12/06/2004 11:02:49 AM PST by cyborg ( Hy verkwik my siel; Hy lei my in die spore van geregtigheid, om sy Naam ontwil.)
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To: Age of Reason

I didn't know marriage was about control.


256 posted on 12/06/2004 11:02:59 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (She calls me *Mini-Merc*)
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To: Fatalis

Please forward notarized picture of YOU changing a diaper....


257 posted on 12/06/2004 11:03:29 AM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
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To: Bella_Bru
Many American men are too afraid to 'marry up'. They don't want to marry women who are better off financially or educationally than they are.

>>>SOB<< It is a curse!
A CURSE I TELL YOU!
To be a smart, financially stable woman in today's world! '''sniffle'''
~~sigh~~ oh for the days I was poor and stupid ;)

258 posted on 12/06/2004 11:03:36 AM PST by najida (Aunt to Miss Emily Ann- Cutest Baby in the World.)
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To: Just another Joe

That's great. Although I would think its rare though.


259 posted on 12/06/2004 11:03:40 AM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

I'm a 29 year old man happily married to a conservative woman. We don't have any children yet, but I told her that I would be willing to adopt a 25 year old asian girl. She would get a loving home, and all she'd have to do is wear a cheerleader outfit and make me coffee.


260 posted on 12/06/2004 11:03:41 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: marajade
When they reach say around 15 years of marriage... I'd be interested to see if they are still married.

And how would they compare to their counterparts who didn't take foreign spouses.

261 posted on 12/06/2004 11:03:51 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: Fatalis
Who set up Fatalis as arbiter of how and why women should be "grateful"? Where are you getting all this "never at any time in history have American women been so ungrateful?" Says who? By what criteria? Who and what am I supposed to be grateful for and how am I supposed to show it, that I'm already not?

Look, I'm about as conservative as it gets on most issues. I'm glad to be home raising my kids. I frankly like the traditional delineation of roles in my marriage, though I recognize and respect not everyone wants that. And I'll admit to having something in common with my more liberal sisterhood and that is: no one treats me like a doormat, a maid, or a plaything. I'm not on this planet to bolster the sagging ego of any man, even if he happens to be my husband. That doesn't make me "unfit" to be a wife or mother, that doesn't make me "ungrateful". It makes me a thinking, confident women who understands her own worth and value. If men -- be they American, Japanese, Russian, or what have you -- don't understand this, that is their problem and loss.

262 posted on 12/06/2004 11:04:13 AM PST by workerbee
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To: fritzz
Thank you. What a sweet compliment.

I agree. Women need to be told they are beautiful from time to time. The old saying is true, Women give sex for love, and men give love for sex.

263 posted on 12/06/2004 11:04:44 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Fatalis

Well said!


264 posted on 12/06/2004 11:04:50 AM PST by elfman2
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To: JenB
Speaking as an American man who has been married to a Japanese woman for nearly a decade now, I think you have a few misconceptions. Very few Japanese women are hunting for green cards. Japan's a first world country with a democratic government rather than some third world cesspool and the overwhelming majority of people there don't want to leave it.

Japanese women can be just as bitchy, naggy and otherwise unpleasant as their western counterparts and the stereotype of them as little, submissive domestic and sexual servants is pure BS, but there is one very real difference between them and American women. Japanese women are much more comfortable with traditional gender roles. They tend to respect men for being masculine and have no desire to be masculine themselves.

265 posted on 12/06/2004 11:05:29 AM PST by elmer fudd
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To: Fatalis

I believe it has more to do with why a person gets married not what country they come from.


266 posted on 12/06/2004 11:05:38 AM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: Just another Joe

Re: Post #129. Yes, please read it......


267 posted on 12/06/2004 11:05:58 AM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
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To: pbrown
"Ohhh, so some women should be slaves, and some independent?"

"Men and women should be equal...period. That goes for child rearing and working outside the home."

I was pointing out that it should be up to the couple, not you, to arrange their relationship, divide up chores and careers. The above statement is rigid, won't work for everyone, probably isn't desirable for everyone.

I get from your statement the impression that you look down on stay at home mothers.

My wife of 30 years is my best friend, which by definition makes us more or less equal. It's what I want in a wife. But people tend not to be exactly "equal," no matter the sex.

I tend to be comfdrtable with traditional male and female roles, as long as both sexes recieve equal respect.

I think my daughter is going to be a career woman, which is OK with me. As it will be if, once she has children, she decides to stay at home. Or not stay at home.

268 posted on 12/06/2004 11:05:58 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: workerbee
I'm not on this planet to bolster the sagging ego of any man, even if he happens to be my husband. That doesn't make me "unfit" to be a wife or mother, that doesn't make me "ungrateful". It makes me a thinking, confident women who understands her own worth and value.

Well said!

269 posted on 12/06/2004 11:06:01 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Fatalis

Now THAT'S a good quote.


270 posted on 12/06/2004 11:06:17 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (OK, whole stole my tagline just now??!!)
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To: elmer fudd

I was really not refering to just Japanese women, but to the trend of American men thinking foreign brides are perfect.


271 posted on 12/06/2004 11:06:53 AM PST by JenB (I will not turn into a snake. It doesn't help.)
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To: Ichneumon

I don't really know many Western women with a chip on their shoulder about feminism.

I mean, they vote and make decisions for themselves without consulting a man, if that's the kind of feminism you're implying.


272 posted on 12/06/2004 11:07:29 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (She calls me *Mini-Merc*)
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To: pbrown
I was gonna say that way back on my first post but I didn't. I should have. You are right.

Leave it to me to say the decidedly un-PC. :o)

273 posted on 12/06/2004 11:07:48 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Hi Heels

Re post 129... LOL


274 posted on 12/06/2004 11:07:57 AM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: derllak

A few years ago, I went to the new Food Lion near me, and, while there, got myself and my wife the check cashing card. No big deal, just happened to do it.

Without going into details, let's just say I went looking for new grocery stores to get check cashing cards, if you know what I mean.


275 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:03 AM PST by dmz
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To: JoeSixPack1

Thanks sweetie.


276 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:17 AM PST by najida (Aunt to Miss Emily Ann- Cutest Baby in the World.)
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To: najida

LOL...good one. I like that.


277 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:26 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: elmer fudd

But define masculine. Does that mean wanting a careeer, or haivng goals that do not involve laundry? Does that mean likes to go hiking, hunting, or sky diving? Does masculine mean likes sports? Is there something wrong with American women who like sports, can and do use firearms and have dreams and goals of their own?


278 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:31 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Hi Heels
LOL Sorry. 13 brothers and sisters. Three married foreign. Two successfully (sisters), one unsuccessfully (brother). Painting with a broad brush never works.

Then why did you use such a broad brush when you claimed that foreign spouses were marrying for green cards? You were wrong in two of three marriages in your own family.


Relating figures of American "spinsterhood" is smoke and mirrors. There are nearly 2 to 1 more women than men.

Wrong, read a census.


Further, and this won't sit well, some American women, when given the choice between marrying American Godlike Men and remaining single, have CHOSEN to remain single.

Well, no kidding?

Spinsters by choice are still spinsters, and they choose to remain single because they don't appreciate the men around them, which I've been saying.

279 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:39 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: Centurion2000
Conservative : votes Republican, LIKES being a woman, like being feminine, not afraid to help with the housework. If she stays home, will pick up the majority of it. Emotionally supports her man. Hates communism

Oh no, she married you for the green card, because you're clearly a beer-swilling caveman who couldn't buy an American date. LOL

280 posted on 12/06/2004 11:10:26 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: exile

Woody Allen is that you?


281 posted on 12/06/2004 11:11:03 AM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
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To: Fatalis
Spinsters by choice are still spinsters, and they choose to remain single because they don't appreciate the men around them, which I've been saying.

Or maybe they are happy with their lives just as they are. Like, they don't need a man to have a life. Yaknowaddamean, jellybean?

282 posted on 12/06/2004 11:11:11 AM PST by najida (Aunt to Miss Emily Ann- Cutest Baby in the World.)
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To: najida
I don't like not being appreciated. I didn't like being the workhorse and never hearing a kind word.

How much appreciating did you do? How many kind words did you give? Unasked? Unexpected? Out-of-the-blue? Many? Never? I don't know.

I do know that you wrote three short paragraphs above, and used the word "I", "me", "my", or "mine" 11 times.

I've been married to the same wonderful lady for 16 years, and have been with her for 21. Marriage is about self-sacrifice. It's about getting up everyday and sleepily asking yourself, "What can I do to make my mate's day better, easier, and happier?" It's about loving until it hurts, then until it really hurts, and sometimes beyond.

In short, for a Christian spouse ... marriage is fun, happy, fulfilling, warm, and wonderful ... but it's also going to Calvary and being tacked up on the Cross to die.

I try everyday to please my wife in a thousand little ways, but I'm ultimately not here to please her, nor she to please me. I'm here to make a better person and help her get to heaven ... and she's here to do the same for me. She'll never do that by feeding my selfishness, but by teaching me to die to myself and to live for the sake of loving others.

</sermon>

283 posted on 12/06/2004 11:11:23 AM PST by Campion
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To: marajade
Although I would think its rare though.

Possibly. I think a lot of it is the way we were raised. Neither of us believe in divorce, both wanted a limited number of children, both weren't afraid to speak our minds, both willing to be talked into things if one could persuade the other it was better, etc.

The Navy DID try to dissuade us.
The last try was a statistic that 95% of American/Philippina marriages end in divorce in the first 5 years.

I do know a good number of other American/Philippina couples that have been married 7+ years that are still together.
A couple where the wife is DEFINITELY the boss. LOL

284 posted on 12/06/2004 11:11:34 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Chieftain

My bad.....Her good.......makes me willing to hand wash some delicates....


285 posted on 12/06/2004 11:11:47 AM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......Does anyone see it yet?....)
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To: Sam Cree
Hello. I "AM" a stay at home mom, always have been. I was lucky to be a stay at home mom.

All my life growing up I only wanted to be a Mother. Not a Doctor or Lawyer or anything else. Just a mother. I got what I wanted. My dream came true.

My daughters on the other hand have to work outside the home and take care of their kids. With their husbands help I might add.

286 posted on 12/06/2004 11:13:00 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Just another Joe

"Neither of us believe in divorce..."

I don't either... but sometimes it just doesn't work out no matter how hard you work at it...


287 posted on 12/06/2004 11:13:26 AM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: HairOfTheDog
This "lack of gratitude' thing isn't part of my life, or my husband's, but it seems to be a big thing for you, so please explain... Exactly what do you offer that all women are increasingly ungrateful for?

LOL, I rest my case.

288 posted on 12/06/2004 11:13:30 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: Lazamataz

LOL


289 posted on 12/06/2004 11:13:35 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

the ruling Liberal Democratic Party is anxiously drawing up plans to make it easier for young couples to raise children, through such measures as the provision of cheap public housing.


That sounds familiar !


290 posted on 12/06/2004 11:13:45 AM PST by sawmill trash (If America is to have illegal weeds , lets start with poison ivy !!!!)
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To: Hi Heels

"Woody Allen is that you?"

Gadzooks No! That's just a joke I have with my wife. She laughs at it now, but my head still hurts when it rains.


291 posted on 12/06/2004 11:14:19 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: najida

OK,I'll take that for a no!


292 posted on 12/06/2004 11:14:37 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: pbrown
Women give sex for love, and men give love for sex.

I think that changes as time and age advances. At least it has for me. If I were single It would be different. I would want to know their name first.....just kidding..maybe.LOL.

293 posted on 12/06/2004 11:15:04 AM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: Hi Heels
Woops, open mouth, insert post. Should have been post 121.
At least the link went to the right post. lol
294 posted on 12/06/2004 11:15:11 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: exile

I’ve told my wife something similar. She gave be the go ahead contingent on making my first million (her first million).


295 posted on 12/06/2004 11:15:25 AM PST by elfman2
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To: HairOfTheDog; RosieCotton; JenB

Hi guys!


296 posted on 12/06/2004 11:17:02 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: elmer fudd
And one can also be aware the great differences AMONG Japanese women. There are many older women (30s and 40s), who have completely different value systems when it comes to family values/loyalty and obligation (who learned these conservative concepts from their mothers) -- (but of course most of them are married, but many miserably), and younger single Japanese women in their late teens or 20s, to whom hip-hop, multiple fornicative partners, STDs, staying out all night, and never cooking a day in their life, is their central being.

One can meet Japanese women at the tops of their careers in law, banking, journalism, in a Christian church in Tokyo or perhaps on PhD work at Harvard or Princeton, or one could go to the Club Alliance disco at Yokosuka US Naval Base on a Friday night and see heavily made-up Japanese women in miniskirts who are drop-outs from high school, from broken homes, who go to a hotel with an American GI within 30 minutes of meeting him, only to bed down with a different GI the following weekend.

There are many different types of Japanese women, no different than the varieties of American women. One can marry into a life of love and warmth and intellectual excitement, or one can marry into a life of regrets and heartaches.

297 posted on 12/06/2004 11:17:09 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (OK, whole stole my tagline just now??!!)
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To: pbrown

"... men give love for sex."

That's not entirely true. The food's not bad either.


298 posted on 12/06/2004 11:17:15 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: Sam Cree

Shh, we don't want to get stoned for bein' uppity, ungrateful wimmin here.


299 posted on 12/06/2004 11:17:56 AM PST by JenB (I will not turn into a snake. It doesn't help.)
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To: Sam Cree

Then we agree. I like my role as wife and mother. It's a role I chose. And according to my hubby and kids...I'm good at it.


300 posted on 12/06/2004 11:18:14 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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