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What Japanese Women Want: A Western Husband
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | December 6, 2004 | Bennett Richardson

Posted on 12/06/2004 9:12:18 AM PST by MississippiMasterpiece

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To: marajade
When they reach say around 15 years of marriage... I'd be interested to see if they are still married.

And how would they compare to their counterparts who didn't take foreign spouses.

261 posted on 12/06/2004 11:03:51 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: Fatalis
Who set up Fatalis as arbiter of how and why women should be "grateful"? Where are you getting all this "never at any time in history have American women been so ungrateful?" Says who? By what criteria? Who and what am I supposed to be grateful for and how am I supposed to show it, that I'm already not?

Look, I'm about as conservative as it gets on most issues. I'm glad to be home raising my kids. I frankly like the traditional delineation of roles in my marriage, though I recognize and respect not everyone wants that. And I'll admit to having something in common with my more liberal sisterhood and that is: no one treats me like a doormat, a maid, or a plaything. I'm not on this planet to bolster the sagging ego of any man, even if he happens to be my husband. That doesn't make me "unfit" to be a wife or mother, that doesn't make me "ungrateful". It makes me a thinking, confident women who understands her own worth and value. If men -- be they American, Japanese, Russian, or what have you -- don't understand this, that is their problem and loss.

262 posted on 12/06/2004 11:04:13 AM PST by workerbee
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To: fritzz
Thank you. What a sweet compliment.

I agree. Women need to be told they are beautiful from time to time. The old saying is true, Women give sex for love, and men give love for sex.

263 posted on 12/06/2004 11:04:44 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Fatalis

Well said!


264 posted on 12/06/2004 11:04:50 AM PST by elfman2
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To: JenB
Speaking as an American man who has been married to a Japanese woman for nearly a decade now, I think you have a few misconceptions. Very few Japanese women are hunting for green cards. Japan's a first world country with a democratic government rather than some third world cesspool and the overwhelming majority of people there don't want to leave it.

Japanese women can be just as bitchy, naggy and otherwise unpleasant as their western counterparts and the stereotype of them as little, submissive domestic and sexual servants is pure BS, but there is one very real difference between them and American women. Japanese women are much more comfortable with traditional gender roles. They tend to respect men for being masculine and have no desire to be masculine themselves.

265 posted on 12/06/2004 11:05:29 AM PST by elmer fudd
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To: Fatalis

I believe it has more to do with why a person gets married not what country they come from.


266 posted on 12/06/2004 11:05:38 AM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: Just another Joe

Re: Post #129. Yes, please read it......


267 posted on 12/06/2004 11:05:58 AM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
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To: pbrown
"Ohhh, so some women should be slaves, and some independent?"

"Men and women should be equal...period. That goes for child rearing and working outside the home."

I was pointing out that it should be up to the couple, not you, to arrange their relationship, divide up chores and careers. The above statement is rigid, won't work for everyone, probably isn't desirable for everyone.

I get from your statement the impression that you look down on stay at home mothers.

My wife of 30 years is my best friend, which by definition makes us more or less equal. It's what I want in a wife. But people tend not to be exactly "equal," no matter the sex.

I tend to be comfdrtable with traditional male and female roles, as long as both sexes recieve equal respect.

I think my daughter is going to be a career woman, which is OK with me. As it will be if, once she has children, she decides to stay at home. Or not stay at home.

268 posted on 12/06/2004 11:05:58 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: workerbee
I'm not on this planet to bolster the sagging ego of any man, even if he happens to be my husband. That doesn't make me "unfit" to be a wife or mother, that doesn't make me "ungrateful". It makes me a thinking, confident women who understands her own worth and value.

Well said!

269 posted on 12/06/2004 11:06:01 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Fatalis

Now THAT'S a good quote.


270 posted on 12/06/2004 11:06:17 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (OK, whole stole my tagline just now??!!)
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To: elmer fudd

I was really not refering to just Japanese women, but to the trend of American men thinking foreign brides are perfect.


271 posted on 12/06/2004 11:06:53 AM PST by JenB (I will not turn into a snake. It doesn't help.)
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To: Ichneumon

I don't really know many Western women with a chip on their shoulder about feminism.

I mean, they vote and make decisions for themselves without consulting a man, if that's the kind of feminism you're implying.


272 posted on 12/06/2004 11:07:29 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (She calls me *Mini-Merc*)
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To: pbrown
I was gonna say that way back on my first post but I didn't. I should have. You are right.

Leave it to me to say the decidedly un-PC. :o)

273 posted on 12/06/2004 11:07:48 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Hi Heels

Re post 129... LOL


274 posted on 12/06/2004 11:07:57 AM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: derllak

A few years ago, I went to the new Food Lion near me, and, while there, got myself and my wife the check cashing card. No big deal, just happened to do it.

Without going into details, let's just say I went looking for new grocery stores to get check cashing cards, if you know what I mean.


275 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:03 AM PST by dmz
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To: JoeSixPack1

Thanks sweetie.


276 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:17 AM PST by najida (Aunt to Miss Emily Ann- Cutest Baby in the World.)
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To: najida

LOL...good one. I like that.


277 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:26 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: elmer fudd

But define masculine. Does that mean wanting a careeer, or haivng goals that do not involve laundry? Does that mean likes to go hiking, hunting, or sky diving? Does masculine mean likes sports? Is there something wrong with American women who like sports, can and do use firearms and have dreams and goals of their own?


278 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:31 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Hi Heels
LOL Sorry. 13 brothers and sisters. Three married foreign. Two successfully (sisters), one unsuccessfully (brother). Painting with a broad brush never works.

Then why did you use such a broad brush when you claimed that foreign spouses were marrying for green cards? You were wrong in two of three marriages in your own family.


Relating figures of American "spinsterhood" is smoke and mirrors. There are nearly 2 to 1 more women than men.

Wrong, read a census.


Further, and this won't sit well, some American women, when given the choice between marrying American Godlike Men and remaining single, have CHOSEN to remain single.

Well, no kidding?

Spinsters by choice are still spinsters, and they choose to remain single because they don't appreciate the men around them, which I've been saying.

279 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:39 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: Centurion2000
Conservative : votes Republican, LIKES being a woman, like being feminine, not afraid to help with the housework. If she stays home, will pick up the majority of it. Emotionally supports her man. Hates communism

Oh no, she married you for the green card, because you're clearly a beer-swilling caveman who couldn't buy an American date. LOL

280 posted on 12/06/2004 11:10:26 AM PST by Fatalis
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