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Yes Virginia, there is a Kwanzaa
The American Thinker ^ | Dec 6, 2994 | Andrew Sumereau

Posted on 12/06/2004 10:42:58 AM PST by oldtimer2

Yes Virginia, there Is A Kwanzaa

December 6th, 2004

It's that time of year again, the time when much of the grown-up world conspires in a fun game of "let's pretend," a time when normally serious people think, act, and behave as if something fantastic, something wonderful, something make-believe is actually true. I'm not talking of the "jolly old elf" you might be expecting. I am referring to that much more mythical of things, the "Holiday Season," as proclaimed in "Happy Holidays" and "Season's Greetings."

To hear the plain truth these days is such a rare occurrence that it may cause shock to the central nervous system. It is outrageous. It is blasphemy. So steel yourself for what is to follow.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: christmas; kwanzaa; madeupholiday; neopagan; plaintruth
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To: Tax-chick

i figured that it was referencing something specific to which I was not referring. I just meant in general, anyone who gives me a general "happy holidays" gets a very specific "merry christmas" in return.


51 posted on 12/06/2004 11:51:55 AM PST by timtoews5292004
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To: BibChr
This teacher went on to explain that the holiday would be called "Winter Break," and not "Christmas vacation."

"But," I sputtered, "historically, our Christmas celebration was intended to commemorate the birth of Christ!"

"Well," she soothed, smiling in condescending pity, "that's how you feel about it."

"No," I rejoined, "it is a simple matter of history. How I feel has nothing to do with it. I could be dead, or a Buddhist, and Christmas would still have been about Christ's birth!"

Talk about living in a parallel universe.

Btw, I recently discovered that Hanukkah is celebrated on the 25th of Kislev (Jewish calendar). Despite the difference in calendar, this date always falls on December, although the day of month might vary. Jesus as well as his early disciples celebrated Hanukkah, or the Feast of Dedication (John 10:22)

Since there are several Christian celebrations that have close parallels in the Jewish sacred calendar, such as Good Friday and Passover, could it be possible that Hanukkah and Christmas have been linked since the early days of Christianity?

I know that the current "expert" consensus is that the Christmas date was chosen to co-opt pagan festivals, while discounting the possibility that Hanukkah had anything to do with the Christmas date. Have you ever researched any possible link between Hanukkah and Christmas?

52 posted on 12/06/2004 11:52:35 AM PST by george wythe
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To: frog_jerk_2004

Yes, you're correct about the Chi or X in Xmas, but in today's world we need to not fear using the actual word Christmas. If anything, we need to use it more, not less. I feel people who use xmas are just in a hurry and a little lazy to write out Christmas; they really don't intend to offend.


53 posted on 12/06/2004 11:57:16 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: oldtimer2

All of them are made up holidays when you see the spirit of Christmas. Don’t blame Kwanzaa for the misdirection of “so called Christians”. Christians have been trying to find a reason to commercialize Christmas for as long as I can remember. The people that celebrate Kwanzaa do not necessarily disbelieve in Christmas. A Christian should celebrate the birth of Jesus, which includes advent. But the shopping at the mall and the pictures with Santa are not a part of the true Christmas celebration. Why do you think most people go into so much debt at Christmas? Kwanzaa didn’t cause that. When do
you think most kids feel the effects of being poor. Kwanzaa didn’t cause that. How do most people celebrate Christmas? I guarantee you it is not by going to church or praising the Lord for the genesis of his promise to us. Kwanzaa didn’t cause that either.
So, in fact the problem lies with Christians not with any of the holidays because truth be told we made up Christmas its current commercialized form.


54 posted on 12/06/2004 12:00:59 PM PST by rave123
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To: fritzz

Wow, we can get 12" or rain in a weekend, and have several times this year! I'm glad I saved you from getting in trouble over missing Pearl Harbor Day ... we always watch the video clips on the History Channel web site, and listen to President Roosevelt's speech.


55 posted on 12/06/2004 12:05:36 PM PST by Tax-chick (Poison ivy berries are a favorite food of the Downy Woodpecker.)
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To: Little Pig

Outstanding and forwarded to Howie "Father Kwanza" Carr.


56 posted on 12/06/2004 12:06:40 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: oldtimer2

57 posted on 12/06/2004 12:09:27 PM PST by Alouette ("Fundamentalist Islam" -- not "fun" just "demented"...)
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To: DBeers
stay tuned -a homosexual holiday will be proposed. Any prediction on what IT will be called?

St. Arafat's Day?

58 posted on 12/06/2004 12:09:40 PM PST by SlayerOfBunnies
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To: SlayerOfBunnies

since the Red States have been identified as those opposed to homosexual marriage and Republican voting, will the "gay" days at disney parks stop wearing red shirts?


59 posted on 12/06/2004 12:13:54 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: JoJo Gunn

60 posted on 12/06/2004 12:20:20 PM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I thought they were going to start wearing surplus Kerry / Edwards t-shirts.
61 posted on 12/06/2004 12:24:06 PM PST by SlayerOfBunnies
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To: DBeers
stay tuned -a homosexual holiday will be proposed. Any prediction on what IT will be called?

Halloween.

62 posted on 12/06/2004 12:26:07 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Tax-chick

Re: Pearl Harbor Day.

I was due or should I say my mother was due to deliver me about the 7th of December, 1941. But I held on 'till December 30th. They still got the tax break.


64 posted on 12/06/2004 12:39:58 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: longtermmemmory

Kwaanza is NOT anti-white.I know cause I've been to a couple and almost all the blacks who "do"Kwaanza are middle class "creative"types who are generally fairly inclusive.And almost all these same blacks ALSO celebrate Christmas so its not an either/or type of proposition.
Now I DO agree that Professor Ron Karenga has a very questionable background and his involvement should be very suspect.Yet the original Kwaanza ceremony comes for an old East African harvest festival.Nothing wrong with that as far as I can see.
Hell,wouldn't you rather see black kids celebrate Kwaanza than some gangsta ethic or hoochie mentality?


65 posted on 12/06/2004 12:40:25 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: fritzz

I had one baby on December 22. I was very stressed about the tax thing :-). My great-uncle got married on December 5, 1941, and joined the Army on December 10; they just had their 63rd anniversary. And my college roommate, a Chinese girl from Hawaii, got married in Honolulu on Pearl Harbor Day, 1994! I'd better send her a "Happy Anniversary" e-mail tomorrow.


66 posted on 12/06/2004 12:47:08 PM PST by Tax-chick (Poison ivy berries are a favorite food of the Downy Woodpecker.)
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To: Adder
Snow Ball Festival?

That may be too gender biased.

67 posted on 12/06/2004 12:47:22 PM PST by DBeers
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To: SlayerOfBunnies
St. Arafat's Day?

Seems too masculine and pedophillic.

68 posted on 12/06/2004 12:50:15 PM PST by DBeers
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To: Tax-chick
I had one baby on December 22. I was very stressed about the tax thing :-).

Tax-Chick, I would have never guessed. My son was born on January 1 and I was told If he was born during the first hour of the year we could still take the deduction. Had to correct it later. Bad Advise.

69 posted on 12/06/2004 1:01:11 PM PST by fritzz (Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers)
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To: oldtimer2

Happy wishes for a Kwazy Kwanzaa and a Mhappy Mnew Myear.


70 posted on 12/06/2004 1:03:53 PM PST by N. Theknow (Ladle gulls shut nod stopper torque wet strainers!)
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To: Riverman94610

The same people that hate Kwanzaa hate the black santas at the mall.


71 posted on 12/06/2004 1:06:30 PM PST by rave123
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To: N. Theknow

don't forget the kwansaa candelabra that is an obvioous ripoff of the chanukah menorah. couldn't he fabricate a holiday that was at least original?


72 posted on 12/06/2004 1:07:34 PM PST by avitot
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To: oldtimer2

73 posted on 12/06/2004 1:10:28 PM PST by eyespysomething (It's the most wonderful time of the year!)
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To: rave123
The same people that hate Kwanzaa hate the black santas at the mall.

LOL! You so funny.

74 posted on 12/06/2004 1:12:14 PM PST by Quinton
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To: Spiff

WOW...thats some toe smasher ya got there.


75 posted on 12/06/2004 1:16:24 PM PST by Quinton
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To: Quinton

That’s because it is totally ridiculous to blame the downfall of Christmas on Kwanzaa. You may say the creator of Kwanzaa is a loser or the celebration is stupid and has no merit. However, blaming the loss of the Christmas spirit on Kwanzaa is over the edge. It’s not that many AA that celebrate it to make it a serious contender with Christmas. And many of the ones that celebrate Kwanzaa, celebrate Christmas. It’s a holiday that has gained support from merchant for the same reason that Christmas has(to increase their bottom line). Why do you think the Christmas season starts so early? Has nothing to do with Advent. So, why waste time arguing the merit of this holiday or its creator? If you’re not celebrating it, don’t worry about it. Otherwise, it sounds like you just hate it because it is something that blacks (some) celebrate and you would take offense to the black Santa’s in the mall.


76 posted on 12/06/2004 1:52:03 PM PST by rave123
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To: Spiff

I remember that from last year, a howler. Did you make that?


77 posted on 12/07/2004 11:09:37 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. )
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To: bullseye876

Word has it that it just might be what they were using before we got there....


78 posted on 12/07/2004 11:10:52 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. )
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To: JoJo Gunn
I remember that from last year, a howler. Did you make that?

Yes.

79 posted on 12/07/2004 1:46:35 PM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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