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Is It Morally Acceptable To Hope Anyone Goes To Hell?
The Federalist Patiot ^ | Dec. 6, 2004 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 12/06/2004 12:44:58 PM PST by Lindykim

"Is it morally and theologically acceptable to hope anyone goes to hell? ... One...need not be a conservative Christian to believe in some form of hell for the evil. All one need be is a rational believer in a just God. For if there is a just God, it is inconceivable that those who do evil and those who do good have identical fates. A just God must care about justice, and since there is little justice in this world, there has to be in the next. And belief in the next world is also not confined to Christianity. As the Encyclopedia Judaica ... (edited largely by non-religious Jews) notes in the first sentence under the heading 'Afterlife,' 'Judaism has always believed in an afterlife.' ... Much of humanity has been adversely affected by modern-day terror. The lives of millions -- virtually all Palestinians and Israelis, for example -- have been terribly affected by Arafat. And there are hundreds of thousands of people whose lives have been destroyed or shattered by him. At the same time, other than a few sycophants enriched by some of the billions of dollars he embezzled from the Palestinians, no one has had a better life because Yasser Arafat lived. ... Yasser Arafat single-handedly made nihilistic acts of cruelty routine, even respectable. ... Thanks to him, the Palestinian name is identified among people of goodwill with barbarity just as the German name came to be associated with barbarity as a result of Hitler. ... Just as any decent human being would want good people to be rewarded in whatever existence there is after this life, they would want the cruelest of people to be punished. So, of course, I hope Yasser Arafat is in hell. ... If you think that is hard-hearted, consider the alternative, that one of the most corrupt and cruel human beings of the past half-century is resting in peace. Whoever isn't bothered by that is the one with the hard heart." --Dennis Prager


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1 posted on 12/06/2004 12:44:58 PM PST by Lindykim
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To: Lindykim

Matthew 7:1


2 posted on 12/06/2004 12:45:34 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; little jeremiah

ping


3 posted on 12/06/2004 12:45:40 PM PST by Lindykim (")
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To: Lindykim

Dunno and don't care but sure pray araRATfink is hell.


4 posted on 12/06/2004 12:45:54 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Lindykim

No.


5 posted on 12/06/2004 12:46:16 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Lindykim

"If there's hell below, we're all gonna go."


6 posted on 12/06/2004 12:46:40 PM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: Lindykim

Better to wish that they recognize their sins, repent, and make amends.


7 posted on 12/06/2004 12:47:25 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Lindykim

God doesn't desire that anyone perish. It would have been great to see Arafat repent of his sins, confess all of his evil deeds, and then ask his fellow Pali's to honor Israel as God's chosen people.


9 posted on 12/06/2004 12:48:44 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Lindykim

"Is It Morally Acceptable To Hope Anyone Goes To Hell?"

I'm not greedy-their just being dead is enough for me.


10 posted on 12/06/2004 12:48:56 PM PST by Spok
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Yep, it's not acceptable to wish someone goes to Hell.

Jesus died for everyone's sins, even mine.

The only parable Jesus explained was about picking weeds . . . .


11 posted on 12/06/2004 12:48:59 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Lindykim

I hope so. Otherwise I'm in real trouble.


12 posted on 12/06/2004 12:49:01 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: MeanWestTexan

Even the 9/11 hijackers and so on?


13 posted on 12/06/2004 12:49:49 PM PST by G32
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To: Lindykim

For us Catholics, it's a bit easier to avoid hoping that specific individuals will go to Hell.

Believing in Purgatory, we figure someone could repent on their deathbed, endure a coupla million years of suffering in Purgatory, and still avoid eternal damnation.


14 posted on 12/06/2004 12:50:04 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Lindykim

Wasn't there a book yearts ago, by one of Bill Buickley's sisters, or relatives.."Will Mrs. (something) go to hell?" ?


15 posted on 12/06/2004 12:50:22 PM PST by ken5050
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To: Lindykim

No.


16 posted on 12/06/2004 12:50:31 PM PST by bad company (I'm a new Grandpa.)
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To: valuesvaluesvalues
Of course it is. Christians' shall be rewarded for their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ by going to heaven. What is wrong about hoping that those who shun Him do not become Saved?

You don't know the heart of the Father. He is not willing that any should perish. While we were ALL yet sinners, He died for us. You need to get in the scriptures and study what He says about such things.

17 posted on 12/06/2004 12:50:57 PM PST by ru4liberty (I don't know what tomorrow holds, but I know Who holds tomorrow. May His Name ever be praised!)
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To: valuesvaluesvalues

I am not a Christian.

( So I guess that mrsnd I am hell-bound in your book! )

I don't know ANY Christians who actively hope as you are proposing.

All of the REAL Christians I know, ( and i have actually met a few) would instead hope and pray that a sinner changes his ways and repents.

Merry Christmas.


18 posted on 12/06/2004 12:51:24 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: Lindykim

No. Mr. Prager is wrong.


19 posted on 12/06/2004 12:51:34 PM PST by Tax-chick (Poison ivy berries are a favorite food of the Downy Woodpecker.)
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To: Lindykim
No. Do you realize what hell actually is?
When contemplated, it is horrifying.
20 posted on 12/06/2004 12:52:28 PM PST by It's me
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To: ken5050

Sister, Aloise Buckley Heath, "Will Mrs. Major Go to Hell?"


21 posted on 12/06/2004 12:52:39 PM PST by Tax-chick (Poison ivy berries are a favorite food of the Downy Woodpecker.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Jesus died for everyone's sins, even mine.

Every soul that Christ shed his Blood and was resurrected for shall be with Him in Heaven.

So, if he died for everyone's sins, all are going to Heaven, right?


22 posted on 12/06/2004 12:52:59 PM PST by rdb3 (LoRdZ of the Gen-X Republican Rebellion -- rdb3 "HiP-hOp FReeper")
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

You've stated our Christian teaching. I believe Prager, as an orthodox Jew, is stating the Jewish teaching. Perhaps I'm wrong and someone more knowledgeable will correct me?


23 posted on 12/06/2004 12:53:18 PM PST by Lindykim (")
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To: Lindykim
There is a word for this in Catholic teaching, but I can’t recall what that word is. The word describes the situation where a person knowingly sins and takes the attitude that they’ll just confess their sins later and all will be okay and that way they can get the “best of both worlds.” Does anyone know what word describes this type of person/conduct?
24 posted on 12/06/2004 12:53:20 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: Lindykim
It better be, or I'm going to be in a hell of alot of trouble....
25 posted on 12/06/2004 12:53:26 PM PST by b4its2late (Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: sitetest

John 3:16 .....Without Christ we are lost!


26 posted on 12/06/2004 12:53:44 PM PST by TWRepublican
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To: Lindykim

Lindy, Lindy, Lindy....you've got to start utilizing paragraphs....and even links that match your subject matter!


27 posted on 12/06/2004 12:53:51 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: MeanWestTexan

I am sure that everyone at sometime in there life has told someone to "Go to Hell" not a nice thing to say but I doubt that someone is really thinking they wish that person to be in a burning hell being tortured by hot flames...


28 posted on 12/06/2004 12:53:56 PM PST by missyme
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To: Lindykim
"Is it morally and theologically acceptable to hope anyone goes to hell? ..."

Frankly, I doubt my opinion would make much difference to the ultimate decision.

29 posted on 12/06/2004 12:54:09 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: Lindykim; All

Yes.

Warren Sapp is gonna go to hell for his un-necessary blindside hit of Chad Clifton of the Packers two years ago.


30 posted on 12/06/2004 12:54:20 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Clemenza
"If there's hell below, we're all gonna go."

Not me, dude.

31 posted on 12/06/2004 12:54:25 PM PST by ru4liberty (I don't know what tomorrow holds, but I know Who holds tomorrow. May His Name ever be praised!)
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To: tiamat
All of the REAL Christians I know, (and i have actually met a few) would instead hope and pray that a sinner changes his ways and repents.

Yep. They might darn a sinner to Heck, though.


32 posted on 12/06/2004 12:54:37 PM PST by Charles Martel ("Diplomats. The best diplomat I know of is a fully loaded phaser bank" - Cdr. Montgomery Scott)
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To: Clemenza

No we're not. I know I'm going to heaven because of my faith in Jesus Christ. Many others here will also not go to hell. I pray you don't either.


33 posted on 12/06/2004 12:54:37 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: bushisdamanin04

Presumption.


34 posted on 12/06/2004 12:54:59 PM PST by Tax-chick (Poison ivy berries are a favorite food of the Downy Woodpecker.)
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To: Lindykim

IMO, It should be the Christian hope that all be saved.

But, I also believe that knowing someone will possibly go to hell by all outward appearances (and feeling that would be justice), is not the same as hoping someone would go to hell.


35 posted on 12/06/2004 12:55:17 PM PST by hushpad
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If I could give up my life of doing good and forfiet my soul to hell, I would do it in an instant if it meant saving even the enemieds of God. This is Christianity.


36 posted on 12/06/2004 12:55:40 PM PST by texan75010 (You lost - MoveOn...to France, or Canada, or New Zealand, or Germany...take your pick.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yes...thank you..


37 posted on 12/06/2004 12:55:45 PM PST by ken5050
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To: Lindykim
I think we're here to TELL the good news. If they don't listen, so be it. So in that sense we shouldn't wish hell upon anyone. On the other hand, I feel confident in saying that Yasser Arafat, Hitler, and others are being sodomized by Beelzebub and his ilk as we speak.
38 posted on 12/06/2004 12:55:45 PM PST by Jaysun (Trees are a renewable resource you idiots.)
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To: Charles Martel; tiamat

And if they're Southern Christians, they'll also bless his heart!


39 posted on 12/06/2004 12:55:50 PM PST by Tax-chick (Poison ivy berries are a favorite food of the Downy Woodpecker.)
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To: tiamat

It isn't me who is proposing this.
It's Dennis Prager who is.


40 posted on 12/06/2004 12:55:50 PM PST by Lindykim (")
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To: Lindykim
Is It Morally Acceptable To Hope Anyone Goes To Hell?

No, it is not morally acceptable to hope someone goes to hell. I believe it was Christ who said to pray for our enemies, to love our enemies.

We should pray instead that the enemy has a change of heart, feels genuine remorse.

41 posted on 12/06/2004 12:56:24 PM PST by Old Lady
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To: Charles Martel

LOL!


42 posted on 12/06/2004 12:56:42 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: Lindykim
Frankly, I'm glad enough someone like Arafat's evil work on Earth is over. Whether he goes to heaven or hell, once he's on his way there he stops causing trouble here.
43 posted on 12/06/2004 12:56:50 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: bad company

Congrats on your tag line - You will love it!


44 posted on 12/06/2004 12:56:54 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Lindykim
The God I worship is a God that rescued me. I was totally without merit when He did that.

For the sake of one lost sheep, the Good Shepherd leaves the rest of His flock, goes out, and finds that one lost sheep.

And when the Shepherd returns with the lost sheep on His shoulders, there is great rejoicing.

If I am to become a more godly person, then it seems to me that it it is hardly godly to pray for (or to rejoice in) the lost of even one soul to hell.

As others have said on this thread, better to pray for the person's slavation by a merciful, gracious God -- who, by the way, showed his mercy and grace to me when He saved me.

45 posted on 12/06/2004 12:57:00 PM PST by chs68
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To: Lindykim

I really don't hope anyone will go to hell. I'm very sorry for the people who choose hell over heaven.


46 posted on 12/06/2004 12:57:28 PM PST by myrabach
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To: Tax-chick

Of course..he is because he doesn't see "it".... yet. I'm praying he does some day. My arguement to him would be.....if it is a contest to see who is worst by judging someone elses actions that would mean.... Stalin sinks, hitler stays since he didnt kill as many as stalin.... or Im sunk but my wife isn't cause she is nicer than me.... but Her aunt lucy is nicer than her..... and so on ... where is the line of demarcation? It is not our line to draw. It is God's and he drew it at the cross.


47 posted on 12/06/2004 12:57:40 PM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: ken5050

You're welcome. One of the great things about Catholic moral theology, as an intellectual system, is that it gives you a WORD for stuff :-).


48 posted on 12/06/2004 12:57:43 PM PST by Tax-chick (Poison ivy berries are a favorite food of the Downy Woodpecker.)
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To: Tax-chick

Tax-chick wrote:


And if they're Southern Christians, they'll also bless his heart!




No joking, I have actually heard that!


49 posted on 12/06/2004 12:58:25 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: anniegetyourgun

Sorry. The paragraphs were there when I posted it. They wandered off in transition.


50 posted on 12/06/2004 12:58:28 PM PST by Lindykim (")
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