[A.J.Armitage]

Salvation implies that the door is open to all.

"Whosoever will, may come".

And also:

"Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens."

One chooses to walk through it.

And another doesn't. Why?

What does predestination assume. That it is already decided.

Since the Bible says the elect were chosen before the foundation of the world, that's a good assumption to make.

So why prostelitize?

Because Jesus said so.

And more important where does that leave free will?

More important? Why is being able to proudly quote the last lines of Invictus more important than the direct command from Christ to teach all nations?

I was raised Catholic and predestination is definately not a part of Catholic teaching.

Augustine would disagree, although it's now impossible to be Augustinian in both soteriology and ecclesiology (the Jansenists tried mightily, and it didn't work).

I would be interested in being educated, but not flamed.

This is a great resource.

[Jack Black]

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I did not understand this comment of yours. In response to my question:

And more important where does that leave free will?

You replied:

More important? Why is being able to proudly quote the last lines of Invictus more important than the direct command from Christ to teach all nations?

I'm not aware of quoting Invictus. Maybe someone else did. Could you explain what you meant?