Europe and Japan in heated clash over fusion reactor

The Observer (U.K.) ^ | 12/12/04 | Robin McKie and Angela Saini

[snowsislander]

I think this one might well become two projects.

I would certainly rather have the Japanese doing the engineering rather than the French.

[bahblahbah]

Can't Japan and the United States just build one ourselves. Its not like the Eurotrash, Chicoms, or the Ruskans are going to put much money into it.

[Texas_Jarhead]

I didn't think the US was participating in this project... Is that incorrect?

[McGavin999]

Build two, and let's see which one works first. I'd bet on the US/Korea/Japan plant.

[iso]

I hope it build in UK .

[Vigilanteman]

French= Militant Islamists. At least that's who will control the country before long.

Japan will still have a country because they have a sane immigration policy and insist would-be citizens prove not only the ability to be self-supporting but to get along with the native Japanese.

[xJones]

Please, may the Japanese get the reactor contract and not the French!

[Syntyr]

"It is really just an issue of scale,' said Sir Chris Llewellyn-Smith, head of Culham's fusion programme.
The bigger reac tor would generate much more power than it would consume."

No not exactly. The more Dueterium and Tritium you pump in the bigger the plasma and the bigger the magnetic field that would have to be in order to encompass the plasma. Also the more power the NBI lasers need to superheat the plasma. It is not as simple as "Oh make it bigger and we get positive power returns" Theoretically there is a point at which we should be able to get more power out than we put in but nobody knows where that is and how to get there... Not saying it shouldn't be explored because it needs to be. But that scientist shouldn't make it sound so simple.

All that said this is awesome stuff.

[Physicist]

At this point, we should just go it alone. Throw as much money into it as it takes. This isn't an economic issue anymore, but a matter of national security. We need fusion (and hydrogen fuel cells) as soon as possible, so that we can stop giving trillions of dollars to people who want to see us dead.

[jrfaug06]

France is like that mean little girl on rug rats**

John

[Wiz]

While EU have considered to build ITER on their own and depart from the international agreement, ambassador of Japan in France criticized that the action was against multinational partnership, a concept which European countries have cried many times for against the US in Iraq War. Now the EU is one step close practicing unilateralism on their own.

[Texas_Jarhead]

Aren't there a couple of small fusion test beds in the US already?

[flying Elvis]

Nah, let them blow their money on trial and error until we know it will work for certain, then we copy it.

[iso]

May you give me some information about that ?

Thanks .

[Texas_Jarhead]

Not sure which of my posts you are referring to but either way I don't have any more info to offer. I was kind of looking for some feedback myself...

[Cicero]

I haven't really looked into this for a couple of years, but I doubt whether they will produce anything workable or economically feasible for quite a few years. It's still uncertain whether it can be done, although I agree that we should continue to pursue it.

The last country that should be allowed to control this project is France, in any case.

[Whitebread]

Well said!

[semaj]

Haven't kept up with the latest, but last I heard, Lawrence Livermore has a small Tokomak that they ware experimenting with.

[raybbr]

Maybe we could use Naqada.