Posted on 12/15/2004 3:14:56 AM PST by dzzrtrock
TESTING THE FAITH City will prosecute Christian protesters
A federal appeals court denied an emergency appeal to stop prosecution of 11 Philadelphia-area Christians who allege the District Attorney's office retaliated against them for exercising their constitutional rights at a homosexual event in which they were arrested and later charged with felonies...the group was "preaching God's Word" to a crowd of people attending the outdoor Philadelphia "OutFest" event and displaying banners with biblical messages....the eleven Christians were arrested and spent a night in jail.(they were charged with)3 felonies and 5 misdemeanors. The charges were criminal conspiracy, possession of instruments of crime (NOTE:Bibles), reckless endangerment of another person, ethnic intimidation, riot, failure to disperse, disorderly conduct and obstructing highways. (...a video) show(ed) the Philadelphia 11 cooperated with police and were continually harassed by the Pink Angels.None of the Pink Angels was cited or arrested. The ethnic intimidation charge stems from Pennsylvania's "hate crimes" law – to which the newest "victim" category of "sexual orientation" was recently added. (is there ANYBODY who didn't see this coming????) The protesters say a Philadelphia police officer told them that because they were on a public sidewalk they were permitted to move freely through the event. A few minutes later, however, they were arrested and removed. The Philadelphia 11 face a maximum penalty of 47 years each in jail.....(read more)
AGAIN I urge you to read the homo manifesto: http://rainbowallianceopenfaith.homestead.com/GayAgendaSwiftText.html
Michael Swift's dream is coming true right now, right here.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
We're far closer to 1938 than that.
New ping to self.
the legacy of Janet Reno lives on. The list of atrocities under her leadership is remarkable in how bad they were.
From what I've read on this elsewhere, this did not take place in Philadelphia, PA- it actually happened in Philadelphia, Mississippi.
Homosexuality is now an ethnicity?
In Philly and in MA yes, as well as many other cities. THIS is why they are pushing for gay marriage, so it is classified as normal, and more of this can happen. You would be shocked at what the media does not report!
No one voted for it, cities put these laws in place as "ordinances". The same thing is happening all over. In Northampton MA they passed an ordinance that cross dressers may use any bathroom in which they feel more comfortable. This is just the beginning. We need to get the the resolution the President has proposed passed. Restore the Constitution!
Buckle on the Dumb Belt of America PING
Absolutely, yes people of faith!
God forbid a time comes when our preachers can't preach any more. Is it already here?
Thats already starting.
bookmark
In Penn? About two weeks.
A lot of denominations also removed "Stand Up, Stand Up for Jesus, Ye Soldiers of the Cross" for the same reason. And a secondary reason: the command "Stand Up" was considered offensive and intimidating to the disabled.
In other words, the sovereign must be German! ;)
I've always thought of our neighbor PA as pretty socially conservative—except that it's infested with two blatantly Marxist, cesspool cities (Philly & the 'Burgh) which always turn the state blue whenever a presidential election rolls around.
BTTT
Makes me glad to be just a dumb ole unsophisticated Southern boy.
Isn't that just ridiculous! Seems to me that everyone is trying too hard to "please" the masses. But they are very intolerant of Christians.
Yup.
Sophia was the daughter of James I is how the Hanoverians fit into the succession.
With us or against us. Time to pick up your cross or drop it and run with the dogs, people.
Thy will be done, Lord.
Now THAT's persecution!
...you did not call it "Michael Swift's homo manifesto". You called it "the homo manifesto".
and the website to which I linked, a militant homo website ALSO doesn't call it "Michael Swift's manifesto" They call it "Gay manifesto" and it is a homo website, or didn't you notice?? Did I happen to mention that it is a homo website?? And the difference between "gay manifesto" and "homo manifesto" is??? did I happen to mention that this is in the congressional Record as the "gay manifesto"??? Should I have called it "gay MANY-fisto"? Do you always work this hard to obfuscate facts?
,Do you think that the rantings of Michael Swift represent the views of ALL homosexuals?
No, only the 95.8% who put this on their websites.I think that those 95.8% of you folks are making the other 4.2% look bad. The problem is that that other 4.2% sit there quietly and do nothing to decry the behavior of the other 95.8%, so you're guilty by omission and they are guilty by COmission. If that doesn't represent your community then tell me, WHY is it on so many homo websites, along with all the lies about "born that way" and "can't change", heteros "fearing" you (yeah...right!...rolls eyes...) You MUST be aware of this so you point in asking would be???
If so, do you also think that your rantings represent the views of all on Free Republic?
"Rantings"? au contraire', my little panty-clad friend, I cite facts here and provide corroborative evidence so graciously proffered up by your own kind. That is hardly a "rant". It would be if that was MY manifesto but it isn't. And you offer up? Yep, the same tired old Bull squeezings and ad hominems in lieu of substance; dicta about "ranting"; name-calling, etc. The stuff the left ALWAYS uses in lieu of cogent arguments. Do I feel I represent all of Free republic? Hmmmmm, I'm fairly sure that I never wrote that anywhere. If I did, please point it out to me. If I didn't how about laying off the red herring? Try and focus to stay on point, ok? If that was not a rhetorical (as well as foolish) question you just asked, I'd have to answer it with a "no". My facts proffered up clearly are not in accord with your thinking, but then again, I am straight.
Take a step back and look at your reply #144. Wipe the spittle from your chin and take it down a notch. You rave sir.
...and THIS is your idea of substantive dialog? Again, "au contraire'" YOU rave, my delusional friend. You have offered up nothing in this dialog which you can support with anything other than opinion. I am fully cognizant of what I write and it is readily apparent that you can't defeat my facts so you resort to the usual leftist diatribe (READ:"Drivel") How quaint! Next, this might surprise you but you are not in a position to attempt to moderate my speech. I would suspect that you're probably feeling rather empowered by what just happened in FILTHadelphia. If you find this not to your liking, read something else. The nice thing about a forum is that it has room for more than one point of view. You might be a queen but you're NOT "queen of the world". If you wish to engage me in debate, please have the deceny to make it look like something other than a turkey shoot, with you in the feathers, of course. Either offer up something of substance or go bother somebody else.
Speaking only for myself and my community...yes. None of it.
This humorous. You imply that I think I speak for all of free republic, then you delusionally think that you're qualified to speak for (your) "community", even if your opinions fly in the face of virtually every homo website out there. Feel free to prove me wrong. Just toss thos links out out here, OK? "Methinks the lady doth protesteth too much". It is that old "denial" and "delusion" thing again. I think the website to which I linked speaks more accurately of your "community" than you, my benighted friend. Oh well, you and community have refined "denial" to an artform so why am I not surprised? If you had NOT, you and your community would not exist. You' make different choices and be part of the human community at large rather than biological, spiritual and scatological dead ends. But building on your delusion, you're going to try to tell me that homosexuality is NOT taught is schools under the guise of "safety" on the planet where you live? That the laws against homosexuality have not been repealed on your planet? That laws are now on the books, as in this instant case, which PROMOTE homosexuality; all of which I just cited and quoted from the homo manifesto to illustrate same? That Homos are NOT sodomizing sons in your schools, gymnasiums, etc.? That on your planet they DON'T use rest areas, bathhouses and public bathrooms for a dating service? That your community is NOT trying to silence the "hate speech" of Christianity because it reveals you for what you are? Do I need to refer you back to your just-attempted demand that i tone my spech down for your delicate ears? Yet you say this doesn't exist in YOUR "community". Is not Philadelphia part of your world? Partner, you need a reality check because you're writing checks with your imagination that reality isn't gonna cover
I am neither. But thanks for the attempt to psycho-analyze me.
Let me see...since I don't agree with your position, that makes me gay or one who loves them. Effin brilliant.
You really are a piece of work. When someone dares point out your poor reading comprehension skills, you automatically go on the attack and label me a homosexual. Typical ad hominem tactics of a weak minded fool. You don't even know me. You might want to check with some Freepers who do know me before making such insinuations. But you'll have to hang around here a lot longer than 2 months for that, newbie. You can reply if you like but I won't even read it if you do. You aren't worth it.
But I will tell you this. If you ever address me in such a manner here on this forum again, I will take steps with the Admin Moderators sufficient to have you suspended or banned. If you are not clear on the rules of this forum, I'm sure they will be glad to educate you.
Too late they already are. Thank God I left that Nazi state/city years ago. The meaning of city brotherly love has taken a wrong turn. It Should be Homodelphia, the city of homosexual love. Every Christian better watch their backs, because its moving to the red states. If you live in a red state, be careful of which judge you elect.
Too bad the Christians that are left up there in Philly can't do anything because they too, would go to jail. Wow imagine going to jail for Christ. Peter and Paul, who would have thought. Well, we know of at least 11 that have.
Maybe some congressman or senator will have the courage to make a bill giving Christians the same hate crime status as they give to anyone (but Christians) these days. then we could throw the judges and lawyers in jail for even thinking about sueing a Christian.
Guess President Bush is too busy to help.
is there a link or email for this judge or city prosecutor that we can send something to? Not that it would do any good, but i would like to vent. LOL
I hope that the city rots in its perversion.
Do I sound a little upset?
I am neither. But thanks for the attempt to psycho-analyze me.
don't presume to tell me what to do, my obtuse friend. I didn't psychoanalye you but DID point out that which you appear to be from this side of the ether. Referring to "my community" is very common among homos when they are trying to pretend to be something other than a 1.5% neurotic minority. I have seen it from them before, many times & many places. They make the same assumption you just did and profess to speak for a "community" that isn't. They have their own prejudices, heirarchy and social enclaves within their non-communal "community". And, BTW, on what authority do you speak for YOUR community? Isn't that a bit presumptuous? Next, presuming that you're NOT a homo, why the heavy defense of the homo manifesto, trying to dissociate it from homos at large and lay it off one guy? That isn't Michaels Swift's agenda. It has been widely adopted. You should be able to surmise that by simply typing same into a search engine and looking how many times it comes up and where. If you can't see that then you're the one lacking cognitive skills. Whether or not you agree with me is irrelevant. Your faux pas was two-fold: Trying to dissociate the homo agenda from the homofascists and utilizing ad hominems in lieu of substance. You came out swinging in defense of the indefensible & apparently didn't think you'd get called on it as you seem to have some illusion of being an "alpha" in here. That, my friend, is (to borrow from you) "effin brilliant". You need to learn to NOT underestimate your intended adversaries. I addressed the issues, you are STILL dodging them, choosing the leftist's tactics or personal attacks, bluster & feigned indignation in lieu of giving straight answers. So I will ask again: what is the difference between "homo manifesto" and "gay Manifesto", especially when said "manifesto" is being adopted, disseminated, promulgated, legislated & acted upon by the homofascists? How can you factually establish ANY degree of separation? Show me the links to homo websites which decry his ideas and show me the homosexual activists who are NOT trying to foist this garbage off on the normal people out here. If you're correct in your assumptions that should be relatively easy, no?
let me see...since I don't agree with your position, that makes me gay or one who loves them.
Ok then (to quote Ricky Ricardo) "Lucy, you'd better splain" why you jumped in on the LOSER'S side. "'splain" why you tried to downplay the magnitude of the dogma from that & thousands of other similar websites, all of which dogma is currently playing out in America. You have skittered right on by the questions I asked you about that. This is so "left"! When asked a question on which they know they cannot rationally defend their position they feign indignation &/or change the subject.
You really are a piece of work. When someone dares point out your poor reading comprehension skills,
Thank you for acknowledging my craftmanship! On your second topic, Dr. Dictionary, exactly WHAT did I misread?(the silence is going to be deafening) I believe this is the SECOND time you've waltzed right by that question. Too tough for ya? Twice you've tried this gambit without being able to support you opinion. And AGAIN you give me ad hominem (case on point) in lieu of substantiated, cogent argument, yet you feel you have some basis to be offended for my having given you same as payment-in-kind. At least you're consistent in your tactics. Or an I "psychoanalyzing" you again?
you automatically go on the attack and label me a homosexual.
Well there's a factual misstatement. I did give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you may be a homophile:ho·mo·phile adjective 1. advocating homosexual and lesbian rights: supporting the rights of homosexual men and lesbians and appreciating their culture (encarta encyclopedia)
Is that better? Based on your posts on this matter you'd have a hard time detaching yourself from that definition.
Typical ad hominem tactics of a weak minded fool.
ummmm, sweetness; "weak-minded" should be hyphenated & is redundant with "fool". How ironic that you'd stumble on something like that. ;º) That having been said, YOU'RE the one who started with the ad hominems & are still so doing. You STILL haven't addressed the issues. The question was (since it seems to escape you) "aren't the ideas layed out in the homo manifesto playing out RIGHT NOW in America?" Obviously a straight answer is not forthcoming.
You don't even know me. You might want to check with some Freepers who do know me before making such insinuations.
I don't need to know you. I just saw you work product. Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. You are defending radical homofascism by trying to propound that the "gay manifesto" is NOT the "homo manifesto" & a part of the mainstream homo movement. Homofascism is a cancer eating at our nation & society yet you're pretending that the points in the homo manifesto are not being driven into the body of normal society like rusted nails into the hands of Christ. What more do I need to know about you on this topic and why would I even CARE to?
But you'll have to hang around here a lot longer than 2 months for that, newbie.
Oh WOW! I am cut to the bone by that one! Wowsers!! If you implication that time in a forum mgaically begets wisdom, I'd have to presume your time in grade here to be "today". I'll point out a couple of presumptions under which you're apparently laboring, if I may. Your first is that you're assuming that I was not here before I signed up as a member. You have no clue how long I have been reading Free Republic before joining. Second, you don't need to know a person's history if he's a relative stranger who standing there intentionally insulting and/or threatening you. You may safely presume he's an "alpha hotel" with little chance of error
You can reply if you like but I won't even read it if you do. You aren't worth it.
Yeah you will. Your personality is such that you can't STAND NOT having the last word, even if it is just another as hominem attack. Because I have pointed that out, you may pretend you didn't read this by not writing back, however. That's fine with me as if you DO write back I know that you still won't be addressing the issues. I have seen "you" a thousand times before in other places & times. You will read this & you will battle the compulsion to write back with more insults & threats & more bluster, based on your perceived stature in here but if you do so you know that you'll be revealing a weakness of character. Tough choice, huh? Write if you find it therapeutic. I am sure somebody will read it. It just won't be I because I also know your style. I haven't lived 50+ plus years on this earth without being able to recognize certain character traits. Accordingly, I will shake the dust of you from my feet and move on. I know that only a homphile or another with a light grip on the handlebars of reality could swerve into some of the places you've just gone in propounding your support of those who would defile our great nation, turning into a modern-day sodom.
But I will tell you this. If you ever address me in such a manner here on this forum again, I will take steps with the Admin Moderators sufficient to have you suspended or banned. If you are not clear on the rules of this forum, I'm sure they will be glad to educate you.
OOOOO~~Puleeezzzeee!! You start a fight then run & hide behind the moderator's skirt when you get slapped down. Let me disabuse you of this notion that you are somehow a "victim" here. This is where things went sideways. You started with:
Did you read the entire site or are you deliberately misrepresenting what is at that link?
then when I asnwered and asked you to provide a factual basis for your insulting question, you followed that gem with:
Wipe the spittle from your chin and take it down a notch. You rave sir.
Lest you not recall, you chose to go to a frontal assault in lieu of dialog. "Pickett's Charge" was more effective than your attack & that was a slaughter. You failed to properly assess your liabilities & reaped the reward of precipitousness. You apparently presumed that since I was "new" here that I was "new" and inexperienced in general and you got your feet kicked out from under you as a lesson of the price of underestimating your opponent. IF you can't handle the "down & dirty", don't START the "down & dirty". You had an initial opportunity to address the issues, point by point, & you replied with ad hominems, MORE ad hominems, bluster & have now ratcheted it up to threats. Still you've not provided a scintilla of substance to support your position though. No surprises here. Your character was clearly displayed in your fisrt post to me...
RINOld Swarzzeneger just criminalized Christianity in California. And he thinks he is presidential material ? hahahahaha
And how did he do that? I doubt anything he has enacted has approached the utter anarchy against Christians in Philadelphia.
Good questions! Coldn't the legislature have passed it without the public voting on it?
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