BAD YEAR FOR ASTROLOGERS, Hardly Any Predictions Came True

ASSIST News Service ^ | 12/16/04 | Wolfgang Polzer

[dukeman]

DARMSTADT -- It was a bad year for astrologers. The Society for Scientific Research of Para-Sciences in Rossdorf near Darmstadt, Germany, examined 90 predictions about the year 2004; none of them came true.

One astrologer predicted in 2003 that US-President George W. Bush would be assassinated. Los Angeles was due to be destroyed by asteroids. German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder should have handed in his resignation and would have been replaced by opposition leader Angela Merkel according to astrological forecasts.

“Clairvoyants usually turn out to be failures,” says mathematician Michael Kunkel of the Society. He recalls that astrologer Patricia Bahrani predicted a terror attack on Berlin and Anton Tewes even a nuclear attack on New York.

Forecasts about the fate of celebrities also turned out to be false. Astrologers foresaw the death of 84-year-old Pope John Paul II. – he is still alive though in weak health. Others said that Michael Jackson would commit suicide – he is still awaiting his trial for child abuse.

Some predictions are so general that they may be interpreted either way. Others are incomprehensible to normal human beings. Astrologer Rosalinde Haller, for instance, foresaw “serial vibrations in Southern Australia”. She did not even bother to explain what she meant, commented Kunkel.

[dukeman]

I predict John kerry still won't win the election.

[mbynack]

I predicted this would happen.

Furthermore - I predict it will happen again NEXT YEAR!!! You can quote me on that.

[oh8eleven]

I predict John kerry still won't win the election.
But over at DU they "believe" he will.

[2banana]

I predict the media and hollywood will never like Bush and the war of terrorism. I also predict that a Clinton will be involved in some sort of scandal.

[proxy_user]

“Clairvoyants usually turn out to be failures,” says mathematician Michael Kunkel of the Society.....

I dunno. How are sales on next year's predictions? Does the failure of predictions to come true drive down the gross revenue in the astrology sector?

[Joe Bonforte]

But over at DU they "believe" he will.

The difference between DU posters and psychics is that the psychics know when they are making things up.

[anniegetyourgun]

The world is full of false prophets. We've got one in town....her name is Psychic Maria. Apparently people are fool enough to give her their money.

[COBOL2Java]

How do you do "Scientific Research" on "Para-Sciences"? Shouldn't that group call themselves "The Society for Para-Scientific Research of Para-Sciences"?

[martin_fierro]

Truth is stranger than fiction.

[dukeman]

I haven't been on-line the past couple of days and I haven't been over to DU today. Are there still some over there holding out hope for the "miracle Kerry election reversal"?

[pikachu]

Others said that Michael Jackson would commit suicide – he is still awaiting his trial for child abuse.

Career suicide maybe?

If an Astrologer can concisely encapsulate what is going to happen to you every day in the paper accurately, why is it usually found on the same news paper pages as the 'Daily Jumble' amd Dear Abby?

[oh8eleven]

Are there still some over there holding out hope for the "miracle Kerry election reversal"?
Does a bear eat in the woods?

[Phantom Lord]

My favorite horoscopes are at The Onion

Go give them a try if you haven't before.

[reagan_fanatic]

LOL. What a record - 0 for 90.

Tom Daschle and his pals at the Psychic Friends Network are very disappointed.

[AreaMan]

The world is full of false prophets. We've got one in town....her name is Psychic Maria. Apparently people are fool enough to give her their money.

I've always wondered about the Magi. They were from the east and not Jews but they saw signs in the stars that led them to the Messiah. Details of their "faith" are limited.

Know of any good historical resources on these guys?

[ROTB]

God predicted what would happen, thousands of years before it did.

http://www.yfiles.com/y3nf.html

[beyond the sea]

BAD YEAR FOR ASTROLOGERS

Put some ice on it.

[Geezerette]

On Coast to Coast radio last night, a caller made a prediction based on news reports from all over the world (not astrology or psychic predictions).

He sounded very rational, but intense. He predicted a major terror hit somewhere in the Northeast USA between now and the end of the year. Said they want to hit us during our national holiday season. Said it could be a nuclear or chemical plant, not WMD, tho. Said it would be worse than 9/11 and possibly a NEW terrorist group or al-Quaida. The host let him speak and then moved on to the next call.

g

[fishtank]

There's several on TBN - The Blasphemy Network.

Their biggest false prophet-dork of the year was Kim Clement.

[anniegetyourgun]

Tons of 'em on that station.

[nuffsenuff]

I guess if you apply scientific methods to study para-science its still scientific research regardless of the validity of the subject being studied.

(I've read my own statement three times and I think it makes sense, but let me know if it doesn't)

[theFIRMbss]

>BAD YEAR FOR ASTROLOGERS, Hardly Any Predictions Came True

Somebody should track
week-in-advance forecasts on
the Weather Channel.

I'd bet their record
is pretty bad, too, and they
build on results from

computer models.
at least astrologers don't
pretend they're science.

[Kirkwood]

Hey, the year isn't over yet. Cut 'em some slack!! </sarcasm>
;^D

[dukeman]

Yes He did! A view I've reached is that God has reserved to Himself the practice of foretelling the future and empowering prophets to do so. These predictions authenticate Scripture and the identity of Christ. It's all there for us to see thousands of years later.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

They used work before Kepler and Newton screwed everything up.

[anniegetyourgun]

I don't have great sources other than scripture itself. However, most scholars indicate they were probably Persian astrologers - and certainly more than 3 of 'em! They also, however, would have known ancient scripture (such as Micah 5:2), which was the greater part of their wisdom.

Though I am a berean, trusting scripture above all, I think this is a good human author. He has written on the subject.

[eccentric]

We used to buy Weekly World News to keep in the bathroom. (Where else would you read 'toilet paper'?) I saved some prediction pages for this century, but, alas, I lost them in a house fire.

[frgoff]

---
I've always wondered about the Magi. They were from the east and not Jews but they saw signs in the stars that led them to the Messiah. Details of their "faith" are limited.

Know of any good historical resources on these guys?
---

Magi is just another term for Wise man; it didn't have the occult connotation it does today.

The story of the Magi in the NT hints at some very interesting things.

Was the teaching of a coming Messiah specific only known to the Jews or did other peoples also have a knowledge of it?

Did the Magi know to look for the star because they had their own scriptural writings?

Was there a Judaic or Christian faith outside of Israel we no longer have a record of?

[Matchett-PI]

"There's several on TBN - The Blasphemy Network. "

SEVERAL?????

Man! THAT'S the understatement of the year! LOL

[kellynla]

yea, well I've still got some can goods in the pantry from the millennium predictions in 1999 LOL...
those clowns are on Art Bell's graveyard shift for a reason...they have less credibility than a screen door on a submarine...btw is Art still looking for UFO's? LMAO

[Matchett-PI]

"those clowns are on Art Bell's graveyard shift for a reason...they have less credibility than a screen door on a submarine"

Tell that to their kook fans/avid listeners that post here on FR daily.

But then we also have the TBN "fans" who post here, too. And those grifters are on 24/7 - not just during the "graveyard" shift.

[gogogodzilla]

I predict that within the next 10 minutes, every living human being will inhale at least once.

In fact, I'll go so far as to predict the every living human being will inhale a breath of air at least TWICE.

Am I an amazing predicter of the future or what!

[Kirkwood]

They were Zoroastrians. Persian scholars who were heavily into astronomy and astrology. They believed deeply in a single supreme being and the coming of the messiah through the Jewish religion to found a new religion. So they were waiting for this event and watching for signs in the constellation Pieces (the fish) because that was the Jewish sign in the heavens. This just didn't come up out of the blue, they were waiting for it because they knew Jewish scripture.

This link will get you started, but you can google up some more links on your own.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/zoroastr.htm

[RexFamilia]

John F#$%@ Kerry DID win the election. MSM said so, and you know they do not lie. My relatives in Italy, Spain and Switzerland confirmed it. (Sarc...)

[fortunecookie]

LOL!

[fortunecookie]

Haikus! I love haikus. And LOL on the weather forecasters!

[oh8eleven]

In fact, I'll go so far as to predict the every living human being will inhale a breath of air at least TWICE.
Heck, I'll go even further and predict they all exhale too.

[Busywhiskers]

"BAD YEAR FOR ASTROLOGERS, Hardly Any Predictions Came True"

..for the five thousandth year in a row.

[dukeman]

If you love hiaku, then you'll REALLY love this thread! Enjoy.

[fortunecookie]

Thanks!! Very cool. I wasn't at my computer much that night, we were at the local republican headquarters for a while. Looks like I missed some fun!