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Schwarzenegger Criticized for Saying GOP Should be More Pro-Abortion
LifeNews.com ^ | December 20, 2004 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 12/20/2004 2:26:56 PM PST by Ed Current

Sacramento, CA (LifeNews.com) -- First, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger came under fire from pro-life advocates for backing a $6 billion measure using taxpayer funds to destroy human life in cloning and embryonic stem cell research. Now he drawing criticism for suggesting the GOP should become more pro-abortion.

In an interview with Germany's Sueddeutsche Zeitung daily newspaper published Saturday, Schwarzenegger said the Republican Party should move "a little to the left" on issues such as abortion -- a shift he claims would pick up more voters.

Schwarzenegger told the paper that "the Republican Party currently covers only the spectrum from the right wing to the middle."

"I would like the Republican Party to cross this line, move a little further left and place more weight on the center," he said. "This would immediately give the party 5 percent more votes without its losing anything elsewhere."

However, post-election poll of voters shows that a majority of Americans are pro-life and the abortion issue gave pro-life candidates such as President Bush a twelve percent advantage.

Thinking about their own position on abortion, 55 percent said they took a pro-life position and only 40 percent took one of three positions in favor of legal abortions.

That November 2004 Wirthlin poll conforms to others showing pro-life Republican presidential candidates benefiting from that view on abortion.

According to Lydia Saad, Senior Gallup Poll Editor, "national exit polling in every presidential election since 1984 has shown a net advantage to the pro-life side over the pro-choice side, based on the percentage of single-issue abortion voters in the electorate."

Schwarzenegger's comments drew opposition from Karen England of the Capitol Resource Institute, a California group involved in pro-life issues.

"Schwarzenegger's statements that the GOP would not lose its base if it embraces ... abortion rights show extreme arrogance and total ignorance concerning the values and dedication of the party's core constituents," England said.

"Schwarzenegger has spent too much time in Hollywood. He needs to start mingling more with mainstream Californians," she added.

"We are outraged that Schwarzenegger has the audacity to misspeak for the millions of Republicans in this country who believe that abortion is murder," England concluded.


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The Worst Constitutional Decision of All Time

"As noted before, the Supreme Court did not invent abortion. There might be plenty of abortion, perhaps authorized or permitted by state laws, even without Roe and Casey. Moreover, the Court is, arguably, not directly responsible for the wrong moral choices of individuals that the Court's decisions permit. Finally, the Court is not responsible - cannot be responsible, consistent with its constitutional role - for correcting all injustices, even grave ones. But the Court is responsible for the injustices that it inflicts on society that are not consistent with, but in fact betray, its constitutional responsibilities. To the extent that the Court has invalidated essentially all legal restriction of abortion, it has authorized private violence on a scale, and of a kind, that unavoidably evokes the memories of American slavery and of the Nazi Holocaust. And by cloaking that authorization in the forms of the law - in the name of the Supreme Law of the Land - the Court has taught the American people that such private violence is a right and, by clear implication, that it is alright. Go ahead. The Constitution is on your side. This is among your most cherished constitutional freedoms. Nobody ought to oppose you in your action. We have said so.

The decision in Casey, reaffirming Roe and itself reaffirmed and extended in Carhart, in my view exposes the Supreme Court, as currently constituted, as a lawless, rogue institution capable of the most monstrous of injustices in the name of law, with a smugness and arrogance worthy of the worst totalitarian dictatorships of all time. The Court, as it stands today, has, with its abortion decisions, forfeited its legal and moral legitimacy as an institution. It has forfeited its claimed authority to speak for the Constitution. It has forfeited its entitlement to have its decisions respected, and followed, by the other branches of government, by the states, and by the People. The enthusiasm of liberal intelligentsia for the Court's abortion decisions, the sycophancy of the law professorate, of the legal profession, and of our elected officials, and the docility of the American people with respect to our lawless, authoritarian Court rivals the pliancy of the most cowardly, servile peoples toward ruinous, brutal, anti-democratic regimes throughout world history. We suffer people to commit despicable acts of private violence and we welcome - some of us revere - a regime that destroys popular government for the sake of perverted, Orwellian notions of "liberty." After a twentieth century that saw some of the worst barbarisms and atrocities ever committed by humankind, at a time when humankind supposedly had progressed to more enlightened states, we still have not learned. The lesson of the Holocaust - "Never Forget" - is lost. We fail to recognize the amazing capacity of human beings to commit unthinkable, barbaric evil, and of others to tolerate it. We remember and are aghast at the atrocities of others, committed in the past, or in distant lands today. But we do not even recognize the similar atrocities that we ourselves commit, and tolerate, today."Michael Stokes Paulsen, The Worst Constitutional Decision of All Time, 78 Notre Dame L. Rev. 995, 1003-1007 (2003).

"If the opinion of the Supreme Court covered the whole ground of this act, it ought not to control the coordinate authorities of this Government. The Congress, the Executive, and the Court must each for itself be guided by its own opinion of the Constitution. Each public officer who takes an oath to support the Constitution swears that he will support it as he understands it, and not as it is understood by others. It is as much the duty of the House of Representatives, of the Senate, and of the President to decide upon the constitutionality of any bill or resolution which may be presented to them for passage or approval as it is of the supreme judges when it may be brought before them for judicial decision. The opinion of the judges has no more authority over Congress than the opinion of Congress has over the judges, and on that point the President is independent of both. The authority of the Supreme Court must not, therefore, be permitted to control the Congress or the Executive when acting in their legislative capacities, but to have only such influence as the force of their reasoning may deserve." The Avalon Project : President Jackson's Veto Message Regarding ...

1 posted on 12/20/2004 2:26:57 PM PST by Ed Current
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To: Ed Current

Funny, I just read yesterday that the liberals want more pro-life people to join them. Something tells me that Arnold is wrong.


3 posted on 12/20/2004 2:29:46 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: JudyinCanada

Sorry, I meant the Democrats want more pro-lifers. Liberals sure don't.


4 posted on 12/20/2004 2:30:35 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: Ed Current

How many abortions would you guess Arnold has caused and paid for over the years?

My guess would be well over 200, honestly.

I imagine his pro-abortion stance is entirely self-serving, like the rest of Hollywood.


5 posted on 12/20/2004 2:30:43 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, July 20, 2000:
"My name is Gianna Jessen. I would like to say thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I count it no small thing to speak the truth. I depend solely on the grace of God to do this. I am 23 years old. I was aborted and I did not die. My biological mother was 7 months pregnant when she went to Planned Parenthood in southern California and they advised her to have a late-term saline abortion.
A saline abortion is a solution of salt saline that is injected into the mothers womb. The baby then gulps the solution, it burns the baby inside and out and then the mother is to deliver a dead baby within 24 hours.
This happened to me! I remained in the solution for approximately 18 hours and was delivered ALIVE on April 6, 1977 at 6:00 am in a California abortion clinic. There were young women in the room who had already been given their injections and were waiting to deliver dead babies. When they saw me they experienced the horror of murder. A nurse called an ambulance, while the abortionist was not yet on duty, and had me transferred to the hospital. I weighed a mere two pounds. I was saved by the sheer power of Jesus Christ.
Ladies and gentleman I should be blind, burned.....I should be dead! And yet, I live! Due to a lack of oxygen supply during the abortion I live with cerebral palsy. [...] Adolph Hitler once said: '"The receptive ability of the great masses is only very limited, their understanding is small; on the other hand their forgetfulness is great. This being so, all effective propaganda should be limited to a very few points which in turn, should be used as slogans until the very last man is able to imagine what is meant by such words.'" Today's slogans are: "'a woman's right to choose"' and "freedom of choice," etcetera. Jessen testimony.wpd

6 posted on 12/20/2004 2:31:17 PM PST by Ed Current (U.S. Constitution, Article 3 has no constituency to break federal judicial tyranny)
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To: Ed Current
I suppose that if votes were more important to conservatives than the lives of innocent babies, he would have a good point. As it is, he continues to reveal himself as a fiscal conservative with no heart.
7 posted on 12/20/2004 2:34:16 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: Ed Current

I suppose we should re-institute slavery, too. /sarc


8 posted on 12/20/2004 2:36:36 PM PST by nosofar
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To: TChris
WorldNetDaily: Arnold OKs so-called 'Pedophile Protection Act'
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a bill dubbed by critics as "The Pedophile Protection Act."
The American Spectator
Democrats and liberal Republicans dismiss the constitutional amendment to protect marriage against judicial redefinition as hasty fiddling with the Constitution. But it turns out that they would like to fiddle with the Constitution this year themselves. Barney Frank and others in Congress are advancing a constitutional amendment that would permit foreign-born presidents.

9 posted on 12/20/2004 2:37:37 PM PST by Ed Current (U.S. Constitution, Article 3 has no constituency to break federal judicial tyranny)
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To: Ed Current

Why hasn't the abortion issue ever made it on the ballot as a referendum to be voted on by the public?


10 posted on 12/20/2004 2:37:55 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Bigh4u2

Still not getting any eh Arnold?


11 posted on 12/20/2004 2:38:46 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Bigh4u2

For the same reason that the Massachusetts Legislature kept Gay Marriage off the ballot. The truth about the actual number of Pro-Lifers would put the lie to the Most Americans are Pro-Choice shpiel.


12 posted on 12/20/2004 2:41:27 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Bigh4u2

Why hasn't the abortion issue ever made it on the ballot as a referendum to be voted on by the public?

Good point.

Since we are a United State democracy Vs the former Constitutional Republic known as the United States - why not?

13 posted on 12/20/2004 2:41:50 PM PST by Ed Current (U.S. Constitution, Article 3 has no constituency to break federal judicial tyranny)
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To: massgopguy

??


14 posted on 12/20/2004 2:42:00 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Ed Current
Is it just me, or are we having to deal with the same junk from conservative press that we have to deal with from the liberal media? Because I've yet to see any quote that mentions abortion from Arnold, yet, gee, this article implies it.

There's plenty of stuff to trash Arnold with, why invent stuff? It just demeans those who demand fairness and accuracy in the media.
15 posted on 12/20/2004 2:43:49 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: Ed Current

He's right.

The anti-abortion crowd (no abortions, ever) are wackos, IMHO.

Ba-Bull thumpers.


16 posted on 12/20/2004 2:52:19 PM PST by MonroeDNA (I feel more comfortable with Soviet intellectuals than I do with American businessmen. --Soros)
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To: Bigh4u2
"Why hasn't the abortion issue ever made it on the ballot as a referendum to be voted on by the public?"

Because you would lose in a landslide.

17 posted on 12/20/2004 2:53:41 PM PST by MonroeDNA (I feel more comfortable with Soviet intellectuals than I do with American businessmen. --Soros)
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To: massgopguy
"The truth about the actual number of Pro-Lifers would put the lie to the Most Americans are Pro-Choice shpiel."

So try it. Go for it. Just agree beforehand that you will live with the results.

18 posted on 12/20/2004 2:55:38 PM PST by MonroeDNA (I feel more comfortable with Soviet intellectuals than I do with American businessmen. --Soros)
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To: MonroeDNA
Extensively discussed @ PL Case .

By monitoring changes in fetal heart rate, psychologist Jean-Pierre Lecanuet, Ph.D., and his colleagues in Paris have found that fetuses can even tell strangers' voices apart. They also seem to like certain stories more than others. The fetal heartbeat will slow down when a familiar French fairy tale such as "La Poulette" ("The Chick") or "Le Petit Crapaud" ("The Little Toad"), is read near the mother's belly. When the same reader delivers another unfamiliar story, the fetal heartbeat stays steady. Fearfully and Wonderfully Made

State Unborn Victim Laws a summary of the laws of the 30 states that recognize the unlawful killing of an unborn child as homicide in at least some circumstances. The federal Unborn Victims of Violence Act, enacted April 1, 2004, covers unborn victims of federal and military crimes.

stemcellresearch.org - Founding Statement

CBHD: On Human Embryos and Stem Cell Research

It may strike some as surprising that legal protection of embryonic human beings can co-exist with the U.S. Supreme Court's 1973 legalization of abortion.29 However, the Supreme Court has never prevented the government from protecting prenatal life outside the abortion context,30 and public sentiment also seems even more opposed to government funding of embryo experimentation than to the funding of abortion.31 The laws of a number of states-including Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Utah-specifically protect embryonic human beings outside the womb. Most of these provisions prohibit experiments on embryos outside the womb.32

19 posted on 12/20/2004 2:59:31 PM PST by Ed Current (U.S. Constitution, Article 3 has no constituency to break federal judicial tyranny)
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To: Ed Current

Nothing personal to all of you anti-folks, but believe it or not, most Americans do not want to outlaw abortion. Sure, partial birth abortion should be outlawed, but preventing women from RU-486 is your agenda, not ours.

You can call me "baby killer" all you want, but most of us do not believe that a 10-day old glob of cells is human. You do; your preacher tells you so. We don't. So vote.


20 posted on 12/20/2004 2:59:54 PM PST by MonroeDNA (I feel more comfortable with Soviet intellectuals than I do with American businessmen. --Soros)
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