Anti-Semitism?

NRO ^ | December 21, 2004 | William F Buckley, Jr

[af_vet_1981]

Do you always answer questions with questions, or just when you're struggling.

Would that be your final question ?

The Struggle Continues

[af_vet_1981]

Then again, I suppose older men write the same thing about themselves as you did when they are on the Internet ...

That would be funny if you were a 55 yo pot bellied balding ...

[karenbarinka]

Luv to fight, babe, but I've got a date -- for a CHRISTMAS party!

Meanwhile, over in Malibu, Mel counts his millions.....

[papertyger]

The Struggle Continues

You should be so lucky.

So tell me, why do people hate Israel?

[af_vet_1981]

They hate Israel because G-d is embedded in Israel and they hated G-d before they even heard of Israel.

[niki]

There would be no Christianity if not for Judaism.

There would be no Christianity if not for Jesus the Christ, Son of God!

[papertyger]

They hate Israel because G-d is embedded in Israel and they hated G-d before they even heard of Israel.

So what does that say for nations, peoples, and tongues that love Israel?

Furthermore, please define what you mean by "G-d is embedded" as you sound perilously close to heresy.

[papertyger]

You take it upon yourself to correct a man that has said nothing untoward, using a principle that is easily refuted from the Scriptures... and I look silly?

Don't mistake embarrassment on your part for error on mine.

[weenie]

If I misunderstood (which is always more than possible)...I sure am sorry...stay in touch...

[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

[dervish]

Shmuly = Samuel
Shlomo = Solomon

I saw the segment and Boteach acknowledged and embraced the support of Evangelical Christians. He also said quite pointedly and was echoed by a female film actress/producer that “Copolla, Scorcese, and Lucas” are not Jewish.

Here is a link to the transcript:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6685898/


Not to offend here but there are big differences in the attitudes of Christian Evangelicals and some Catholics towards Jews. For several reasons. Mr Donohue is part of a sect of traditionalists, as is Mr Gibson, that rejects Vatican II included in which is the “Nostra Aetate” which stated that the Jews of other times should not be blamed for the death of Christ in his own time. This collective guilt had historically been used as a justification for anti-semitism among Catholics.

Further as a general matter Catholic teaching traditionally de-emphasizes the Old Covenant/Testament and has historically at times been rejectionist of it. This relates to the centrality of interpreters of the text to Catholic doctrine. If you take away the OC the value and contribution of the Jewish people go with it.

Just as it is indisputable that there are many secular Jews in Hollywood, it is equally indisputable that the Jews have historically been victims especially of Catholic anti-Semitism, and particularly in the aftermath of Passion Plays and the sentiments they aroused. This is so much so that the Vatican has issued specific guidelines as to the content and presentation of Passion Plays.

As to the general issue Mr Buckley addresses –

is the problem religious differences or the differences between people of faith, any faith, and those who are “secular fundamentalists?”

I agree with his analysis. With religion itself under attack, believers have more in common with each other and preserving values than with non-believers. Charles Krauthammer made the same point in another article posted here this week. Per this article by the neo-liberal Mr Beinart, voters of all faiths in the current election view themselves as part of religious America:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A705-2004Oct26.html

[af_vet_1981]

Just as it is indisputable that there are many secular Jews in Hollywood

The Jewish population in California as a whole is approximately 2.9 percent but they may make up Jews make up about 6 percent of the City of Los Angeles’ population. The population density will vary by neighborhood. Fairfax used to be the most Orthodox and Jewish neighborhood.

[Clemenza]

I believe Palm Beach County Florida has the largest Jewish population per capita in the nation, something like 38% according to the last census.

[rmlew]

The secularist Jews fear Christians and actual Judaism.

[NYC GOP Chick]

The only criticism you can make of it is that maybe Donohue shouldn't have concentrated only on secular Jews. As Buckley says, there are other secularists as well who regularly attack Catholicism and Christianity generally.

That's exactly my beef with this guy.

[papertyger]

I understand anti-semitism very well. I know where it originates and I know where it ends.

Do you profess a better understanding of anti-semitism than Rabbi Daniel Lapin?

[NYC GOP Chick]

Only girlie-men and anti-Christians found Passion too bloody.

Well, I'm a fairly tough woman and am not at all anti-Christian (I've defended Christians and Christianity from leftists on other parts of the 'net), but I cringed quite a bit during that movie.

[dervish]

Maybe I was unclear. I meant in the Hollywood film industry.

[af_vet_1981]

Maybe I was unclear. I meant in the Hollywood film industry.

Do you know how many people work in the Hollywood film industry ?

... according to the Screen Actors Guild, blacks, who comprise 12 percent of the population, are cast in 14.8 percent of all roles on television and in movies. ABC says that 33.6 percent of new network hires went to minorities. Forty-one percent of Fox's prime-time series actors are minorities. CBS says that 29 percent of its actors are black.