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Asteroid With Chance of Hitting Earth in 2029 Now Being Watched 'Very Carefully' (1 in 43 odds)
http://www.space.com ^ | Update, Dec. 25, 9:47 p.m. ET | Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 12/26/2004 8:33:58 PM PST by shadowman99

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To: ExSoldier

Thats what I meant; survivors from a comet and/or large asteroid strike are remote in the extreme. Those that DO survive had best be prepared to defend themselves and their supplies from those that survive the initial disaster that did not prepare.

However, I agree in principle that one should be prepared for disaster and only the prepared (and the lucky) will survive long term.

I was a 91A medic in the US Army, and I was a Boy Scout. I have food, water, shelted, weapons and ammo, commo, etc. prepared for several different senarios: 3-day, 1 month, and indefinite future.

If the worst DOES happen, you can contact me voice at 14.15 MHz. Like minded people that have prepared will be welcome in my neighborhood.


101 posted on 12/27/2004 8:08:10 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Here you go:

LINK

102 posted on 12/27/2004 8:54:32 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: LibWhacker
. . . the risk is about 30% (as of right now) . . .

Arghhh! . . . Never mind, sez Emily Latella. The table gave the probability as 2.2e-02, and by this they meant 2.2 x 10-2. But I took "e" to mean the number "e," as in natural logarithms. :-(

103 posted on 12/27/2004 10:18:03 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: orionblamblam

I remember reading about that as a form of deep space propulsion in addition to a Bussard ramjet.


104 posted on 12/27/2004 4:29:32 PM PST by Bogey78O ("Kill The Tartars on the night of the 15th of the 8th moon")
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To: doug from upland
I expected that....
105 posted on 12/27/2004 4:49:15 PM PST by Bogey78O ("Kill The Tartars on the night of the 15th of the 8th moon")
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To: BlazingArizona

So are we essentially racing this asteroid around the sun? And it's slowly coming into our path?


106 posted on 12/27/2004 4:52:08 PM PST by Bogey78O ("Kill The Tartars on the night of the 15th of the 8th moon")
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To: LibWhacker

It's the way people who deal with astronomically high numbers stay sane.


107 posted on 12/27/2004 4:53:48 PM PST by Bogey78O ("Kill The Tartars on the night of the 15th of the 8th moon")
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To: Bogey78O

I think you were the only one who got it. :)


108 posted on 12/27/2004 5:20:40 PM PST by doug from upland (THE RED STATES - celebrate a great American tradition)
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To: doug from upland

2006 pops up only one sentence, "the only surefire way to stop Hillary is in New York".


109 posted on 12/27/2004 5:22:11 PM PST by Bogey78O ("Kill The Tartars on the night of the 15th of the 8th moon")
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To: Bogey78O

So are we essentially racing this asteroid around the sun?

Lookie here,


http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db?name=2004+MN4

They have an interactive tool, you can zoom, rotate animate and change time step. Basically it's in an oval orbit that extends from just outside venus to just outside earths orbit. It's orbit is slightly inclined to the earth's but crosses earth's orbit around the point in the earth's orbit where earth is on April 13 every year. Most years he's not there on April 13, so it's no big deal. In 2029 we both get there around the same time. Could be a big deal.


110 posted on 12/27/2004 5:47:14 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
all potatoes compared to a 400 meter asteroid impacting earth. Even with warning. The events you mentioned are not even in the same ball park. An asteroid of that size would be off the scale. Trust me

Nope. That's not that big, and it also depends on the angle of impact. a 400meter asteroid hitting mid ocean would cause a title wave but other than that the affects would be short lived. Hit on land it would throw a lot of stuff into the atmosphere, but probably not as much as Mt. St. Helens, and certainly not as much as Krakatoa.

111 posted on 12/27/2004 9:29:42 PM PST by konaice
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To: konaice
The 1908 Tunguska explosion was supposedly caused by an asteroid only 60 meters in diameter. That event felled an estimated 60 million trees over 2,150 square kilometres but did not leave a crater. It is believed that the asteroid exploded at an altitude of about 8 kilometres.
source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska
112 posted on 12/28/2004 7:25:57 AM PST by dumpdaschle (Demand that French imperialists leave the Ivory Coast.)
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To: dumpdaschle

True, and the death toll was nill as far as anyone can tell. One wonders if a 400 meter asteriod would break up or land intact.


113 posted on 12/28/2004 1:48:26 PM PST by konaice
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To: konaice
It sounds as if asteroids less than 100 meters in diameter generally do not hit the ground. But, it would still cause massive local damage whether it hit the ground or not. I believe that nuclear warheads explode in the air for maximum affect. The Tunguska event area of destruction was within a circle radius of 25 kilometers.

This site has some interesting info - http://users.tpg.com.au/users/tps-seti/spacegd7.html
and there is information on this site about the tsunami effect caused by asteriods.

The web site mention above says that an impact from a 2km diameter stony asteroid is thought to be at the threshold of a global catastrophe and the "damage" would go well beyond the area of direct devastation. It has been estimated that one quarter of the world's population could die from starvation and other indirect effects due to a 2 km asteroid impact.

114 posted on 12/28/2004 3:39:19 PM PST by dumpdaschle (Demand that French imperialists leave the Ivory Coast.)
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To: dumpdaschle; Joe Hadenuf
This site has some interesting info - http://users.tpg.com.au/users/tps-seti/spacegd7.html and there is information on this site about the tsunami effect caused by asteriods.

Yup, that pretty well agrees with what I learned on this subject. The 400meter object is far from a planet killer, and the better prediction of impact area (if it does in fact hit) the better chances we have of avoiding a high death toll, as I mentioned in my #111 above.

115 posted on 12/28/2004 3:50:17 PM PST by konaice
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To: konaice
A 400 meter asteroid, if it hit in the ocean, would produce a tsunami larger than that caused by the recent earthquake.

This web site - http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/asteroid_paine_september.html
is easier for a non-scientist like me to understand compared with my earlier link. It gives the example of a 500 yard (bigger but in roughly the same ball park) asteroid producing a runup wave height of up to 120 feet at 1000 miles from impact. The actual wave height depends on the topography of the shore.

116 posted on 12/28/2004 5:08:20 PM PST by dumpdaschle (Demand that French imperialists leave the Ivory Coast.)
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To: konaice
From this link - http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/asteroid_paine_september.html

In 1815 a volcano on the Indonesian island of Tambora exploded and produced a crater similar in size to that from a 500-yard asteroid. About 20 cubic miles of ejecta was released (for comparison, the Mount St. Helens explosion in 1980 released about a quarter of a cubic mile of ejecta).

In the case of Tambora, it has been estimated that 10,000 people died directly from the explosion and 80,000 more died in the region from indirect effects, such as starvation. In addition, the ash is thought to have caused the "year without a summer" in 1816, when there were widespread crop failures across North America. The final death toll was probably in the hundreds of thousands. A similar event today might kill millions.

117 posted on 12/28/2004 5:19:11 PM PST by dumpdaschle (Demand that French imperialists leave the Ivory Coast.)
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