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Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp (Vietnam Human Rights Bill)
International Christian Concern ^ | 12/27/2004 | Montagnard Foundation

Posted on 12/27/2004 5:36:00 AM PST by miltonim

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To: killjoy; ALOHA RONNIE; mhking; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; MeekOneGOP; ...
Care to share your credentials on the current situation in SEA?

I don't have any PERSONAL credentials. I tend to trust FRiends' credentials though, that I've known for years here and other places.

101 posted on 11/06/2005 3:56:03 PM PST by JLO (www.operationminnesotanice.com)
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To: JLO
If I didn't know it I'd either say it was stills from the movie Bridge over the River Kwi or from one of the early Chuck Norris POW Rescue films. This is real so why is Jane Fondue so quiet? Oh, they're her Commie Pals never mind.
102 posted on 11/06/2005 4:34:51 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat; JLO
If I didn't know it I'd either say it was stills from the movie Bridge over the River Kwi or from one of the early Chuck Norris POW Rescue films.

They are stills from the movie, "Journey from the Fall". There is a website for the film at http://www.journeyfromthefall.com/index.asp

It is amazing how some people on FR cling to some fantasy world and will grasp at anything, no matter how remote, to try to prove their point. This is a perfect example where stills from a current movie filmed in Thailand are being used unscrupulously to further a private agenda.

103 posted on 11/06/2005 6:33:47 PM PST by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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...Actually,

...based on my many conservations with former captives of Communist Vietnam's "Re-Education" prison camps...

...the Vietnamese-American Motion Picture production "The JOURNEY from the Fall" accruately depicts the inhumane suffering imposed on them by their Godless Communist captors after the Vietnam War.

"Why did they do this to me?" was their uniform question.

"Because they COULD" was my uniform answer.

NOTE: I personaly have had my fingers placed in the large and long scars that are left from formerly Free Vietnamese men & women's having had their stomachs cut open by their Communist Vietnamese captors. Scars that are about one inch wide, one half inch deep ..running from their middle stomach down to their navel.

There is NO agenda here, except that of sharing the CLARITY of what really happened in a once Free South Vietnam after we Americans abandened it to heavily Soviet-backed Communist invaders from the North.

As the North used more tanks for its final solution in the South, at the end, than Gen. PATTON needed to win World War II with in Europe.

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104 posted on 11/06/2005 7:32:03 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
There is NO agenda here, except that of sharing the CLARITY of what really happened in a once Free South Vietnam after we Americans abandened it to heavily Soviet-backed Communist invaders from the North.

The agenda I was referring to is the imagined link between persecution in Vietnam and Christianity. I know very well what happened in Vietnam, and Laos, and it was horrible. Making up lies and spreading disinformation, such as what is being done with these movie stills, is an insult to those who did go through this punishment. Since when is "fake but accurate" part of the FR dictionary?

105 posted on 11/06/2005 7:49:13 PM PST by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: killjoy; ALOHA RONNIE

killjoy, learn some from ALOHA RONNIE! Read around! Learn some more.. real history!


106 posted on 11/06/2005 8:02:48 PM PST by JLO (www.operationminnesotanice.com)
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.."The JOURNEY from the Fall"...

...isn't about lies, but IS about truth.

...Depictions are all that we have to share with the World about what happened in Vientam after we abandoned it to its fate. Just like the same Anti-U.S. Democrats are trying to make us do again in Iraq. The Communist Vietnamese weren't in the business of taking photos to share with the World of what they were doing to their once Free captives.

I'm not catching your drift about
Vietnam & Christianity? But there is now a religious statue of the blessed Virgin Mary weeping tears of sorrow for Freedom's return to Vietnam currently in Saigon. A miracle that the Communist Government is forcing the head of the Roman Catholic Church there to tell the people that all is a fabrication and not real.

Photos appearing in Vietnamese-American Media of this actual weeping statue show us otherwise.


107 posted on 11/06/2005 8:08:19 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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Depictions are all that we have to share with the World about what happened in Vientam after we abandoned it to its fate.

Oh please. There is plenty of documented proof of what happened. Have you been back to Vietnam (or Laos) since the war?

I'm not catching your drift about Vietnam & Christianity?

Read the other posts in this thread.

108 posted on 11/06/2005 8:15:54 PM PST by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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Since when is "fake but accurate" part of the FR dictionary?

Since YOU SHOWED up, LOL, killjoy!!


109 posted on 11/06/2005 8:17:43 PM PST by JLO
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To: miltonim

 

It's gotta be.


110 posted on 11/06/2005 8:24:34 PM PST by Fintan (I'm planting my tagline bulbs for the spring.)
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Pictures of victims from Cambodia's Kiling Fields we've seen but not of what the Vietnamese Communists did to other Vietnamese ..after the Fall ..of Saigon.

None they want to share with the World, any way.

This is the real service "JOURNEY from the Fall" will give to the world when widely seen. As I was blessed to see in a premiere movie preview on the 30th Anniversary of the Fall of Saigon ...in the town I grew up in here.

To answer your question...
I will not be returning to Vietnam until it is once again Free. But that's OK, for...

...LOVE ia coming to Vietnam.

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111 posted on 11/06/2005 8:39:06 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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...make that:


LOVE is coming to Vietnam.

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112 posted on 11/06/2005 9:58:20 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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I wonder if you've read the links WITHIN, the thread, killjoy. Like this one that ALOHA RONNIE posted. http://www.moderndayheroes.com/cgi-bin/ccp51/cp-app.cgi?rrc=N&pg=aloha&affl=aloha766

He has told his experience many, many times. Maybe some don't read it. Aloha Ronnie has a personal website that tells the tale he lived. Lots of photos, too. I bet he'll give the link to it.


113 posted on 11/09/2005 9:16:29 PM PST by JLO
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You are about heading for a zot, killjoy if you don't learn some. How old are you, killjoy? Not old enough to recall the funny, killroy was here? Image hosted by Photobucket.com

You must be a kid. No wrong in being a kid - but learn and read. I answered your FReepmail (PM) and said the the same thing - watch military and history TV, if you don't believe FR. It's all right there...for folks that don't remember because they weren't around!

114 posted on 11/09/2005 10:38:13 PM PST by JLO
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You are about heading for a zot, killjoy if you don't learn some. How old are you, killjoy? Not old enough to recall the funny, killroy was here?

Image hosted by Photobucket.com

You must be a kid. No wrong in being a kid - but learn and read. I answered your FReepmail (PM) and said the the same thing - watch military and history TV, if you don't believe FR. It's all right there...for folks that don't remember because they weren't around!

115 posted on 11/09/2005 10:41:39 PM PST by JLO
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116 posted on 11/09/2005 11:56:36 PM PST by JLO
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So please give me documented proof, from a non-Christian group, of this currently happening in Vietnam.

You're merely a troll.

If you were in earnest, then categorically excluding descriptions of Christians being persecuted, FROM Christians, would not be a good place to start.

No cheers, unfortunately.

117 posted on 11/17/2005 9:44:55 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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If you were in earnest, then categorically excluding descriptions of Christians being persecuted, FROM Christians, would not be a good place to start.

Obviously, you couldn't find evidence from a neutral third party either. Thanks for proving me right.

118 posted on 11/17/2005 10:21:13 PM PST by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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I didn't even bother to look, because the request itself was prima facie evidence of bad faith on your part.

So I'm not going to rise to the bait.

Cheers, you lovable troll, you.

Full Disclosure: After the surprise upset by Daniel of the Lions, we were all looking forward to the Lions-Christians game this century...The score at halftime, Lions 1, Christians 0.

119 posted on 11/18/2005 5:23:47 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Obviously, you couldn't find evidence from a neutral third party either.

I can, troll.

120 posted on 11/20/2005 4:41:35 AM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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