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UN's Jan Egeland Responds to Freeper Email
Free Republic ^ | December 28, 2004

Posted on 12/28/2004 4:11:38 PM PST by Howlin

Earlier today, responding to these remarks by the UN's Jan Egeland

But U.N. Undersecretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Egeland suggested that the United States and other Western nations were being "stingy" with relief funds, saying there would be more available if taxes were raised.

"It is beyond me why are we so stingy, really," the Norwegian-born U.N. official told reporters. "Christmastime should remind many Western countries at least, [of] how rich we have become."

"There are several donors who are less generous than before in a growing world economy," he said, adding that politicians in the United States and Europe "believe that they are really burdening the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. It's not true. They want to give more."

I sent this email to Jan Egeland

You seem to be under the impression that the ONLY way that individuals can donate money to charities and disasters is if the government TAKES the money from them in the form of taxes and gives it to YOU.

Leaving aside the fact that the UN is the last place I want MY government to give money (see Oil for Food scandal), we don't need to be taxed into giving. The United States is a generous country and we WILL give a lot of money to this cause; we're just not going to give it to YOU to spend as you see fit.

The people who really need and deserve the money will get it, without you having the opportunity to cut your slice off of it.

Howlin @ FR

Raleigh, NC

P.S. Forget about a UN and/or world tax; it's not going to happen.


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KEYWORDS: howlin; humanitarianrelief; janegeland; stingy; sumatraquake; tsunami; un; unitednations; unlist; waytogosir
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Well, I have now received a reply from him, which I will post.
1 posted on 12/28/2004 4:11:38 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your comments. We take your concerns very seriously.
However, as you can see from below excerpts from the White house and transcripts from subsequent interview with Fox, Mr Egeland’s comments were misrepresented.

We Hope that this helps to clarify the matter.


White House Spokesman's Reaction to the "stingy" comment
QUESTION: Was the president as upset as Colin Powell was about U.N. humanitarian official saying that some rich nations are being stingy with aid?

DUFFY: Well, I'd encourage you to look at his remarks, his recent remarks. I think he's said as much that he's been misquoted and sort of misinterpreted.

As I said, the United States is the single largest contributor to international aid in the world. We outmatch the contributions of other nations combined, we'll continue to do so.

So I would encourage you to look at his remarks and maybe contact his office, because I think some of those were taken out of context.

Transcript of JE on fox news today at 1:30


Rick (Fox) a u.n. official says that's not going to be enough. we can understand that. a country as rich as the u.s. could afford to give away a little bit more money, you would think. with us now, we have the undersecretary of humanitarian affairs for the united nations, his name is jan eggland. thank you for being with us. what do you think? you just heard trent duffy down there, spokesperson basically for the white house. what do you think of his comments? >>
JE: well, i agree with every word. the united states is a very generous donor to our disaster relief operations in the -- in helping the tsunami victims in southeast asia. there is a very generous outflow now from the united states in addition to the initial $15 million, we've heard of $20 million coming from usaid, the u.s. air force, many number of organizations are helping. we see the same response in europe, within asia and elsewhere. it will be, i think, perhaps the biggest relief operation of its kind ever.
Rick so you are getting a good response. i mean, are you satisfied as of right now from the wealthiest countries of the world? >>
JE: in this emergency phase, yes, i'm very satisfied. i have commented on earlier occasions on the general trend from rich countries in the world to give less of their riches to development assistance, to general assistance to the poorest nations, and here it is my job to be dissatisfied, i always want donors and more donors to give, because i see refugees starving, i see children not getting medical help because we have too little funds, in the u.n., in the red cross, in organizations.
RICK: when people watch at home and hear you say that, and they're not rich countries, but they have a little money to give out of their individual pockets, where should they send it? to red cross and owings like that or could the u.n. use some of that? >>
JE: well, the united nations has excellent operations as we speak in southeast asia, unicef, world food program, world health organization, but it's equally good to give through the red cross, through the nongovernmental organizations of which there are so many excellent ones in the united states that are so close partners to us in the united nations in the field.
Rick: you know, i'm sure there are people sitting behind me here and at home watching saying, please, god, make sure this money gets into the hands of the right people, the people that need it. how do we, please, make sure this doesn't turn into a corruption story? >>
JE: yeah, and i understand people are afraid of that, and there have been too many bad examples in the past, but i've been working in international relief human rights and relief work since i was 25 years old. the work has been never -- has never been more monitored, there's never been more quality control, it's never been more effective. for $1 a day, we can feed a child, for less than a dollar, we can immunize a child. it is perhaps the most effective use of money anywhere in the world given what we get in return.
Rick: bring let you go, talk about immunization. i know the u.n. put out a statement about a half-hour ago and said the disease problem may be worse than the tsunami itself, may kill more people in the long run. what are you hearing about that?
JE: now that's exactly what i and others have been saying since it all started in -- on sunday, that there are two waves of destruction. the first is the wall of water, the tidal wave itself, and it has taken tens of thousands of lives but many more could now die because of infected drinking water. it's all polluted, sanitation systems are down. children drink sewage virtually, and that will lead to -- to disease and death. so the relief effort is now concentrating on giving that kind of assistance. rick: speaking of relief effort, please keep us updated on this. we'll check back in with you. >>
JE: thank you for having me.


2 posted on 12/28/2004 4:12:21 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Great e-mail. My hope is the W looks to other outfits (including faith based) that are not crooked. We'll see...


3 posted on 12/28/2004 4:13:11 PM PST by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: Howlin

Looking forward to it.


4 posted on 12/28/2004 4:13:18 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: Howlin

You GO girl!


5 posted on 12/28/2004 4:13:31 PM PST by snopercod ("Aggressive fighting for the right is the noblest sport the world affords." --Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Howlin

You da man! Way to go! Eagerly waiting for the post......


6 posted on 12/28/2004 4:13:37 PM PST by blackdog (May Islam meet Tennyson's "Ninth Wave" in my lifetime.)
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To: eureka!

And here is my reply to his reply:

First of all, I am NOT a sir; you'd know that if you had actually read my email, as I signed it.

And, secondly, I read the EXACT quote in the Washington Times, so I know EXACTLY what he said; the White House may have to be politically correct and dance around you UN posers, but the rest of the people in the United States do NOT.

Who exactly were you referring to when you said "stingy," if not the United States and other nations?

This IS your statement, isn't it?

But U.N. Undersecretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Egeland suggested that the United States and other Western nations were being "stingy" with relief funds, saying there would be more available if taxes were raised.
"It is beyond me why are we so stingy, really," the Norwegian-born U.N. official told reporters. "Christmastime should remind many Western countries at least, [of] how rich we have become."
"There are several donors who are less generous than before in a growing world economy," he said, adding that politicians in the United States and Europe "believe that they are really burdening the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. It's not true. They want to give more."



All your snarky remarks have done is turn the American citizens against YOU and your program. It's none of your or the UN's business how much this country and it's citizens donate to any particular charity. We already give more than any other country to the UN now; where's that money? Don't you budget for disasters? You have absolutely NO business telling us how or what to donate.

We are a sovereign country, in case you have forgotten.


You may call us "stingy," but we call you and the UN "wasteful".........and downright corrupt.


Howlin @ FR
Raleigh, NC


7 posted on 12/28/2004 4:14:44 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

You also da girl! Sorry!


8 posted on 12/28/2004 4:14:59 PM PST by blackdog (May Islam meet Tennyson's "Ninth Wave" in my lifetime.)
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To: blackdog

You da...da!


9 posted on 12/28/2004 4:15:20 PM PST by The Teen Conservative
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To: Howlin

Nice job.


10 posted on 12/28/2004 4:15:33 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (I'm here because I'm not all there.)
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To: blackdog; 1stMarylandRegiment; 1Mike; 3catsanadog; ~Vor~; ~Kim4VRWC's~; A CA Guy; ...

You know, it really felt good!

As I am sure you know, I am usually a lot more tactful than that.........LOL.


11 posted on 12/28/2004 4:16:03 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
i mean, are you satisfied as of right now from the wealthiest countries of the world?

Just glancing through the response... Why in the wide wide world of sports should anyone care what JE thinks. This creep needs to resign and let an adult take over.

ok... reading on.

12 posted on 12/28/2004 4:16:13 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: Howlin
Sri Lanka rejects Israel rescuers I say fu*kem.
13 posted on 12/28/2004 4:16:28 PM PST by snopercod ("Aggressive fighting for the right is the noblest sport the world affords." --Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Howlin

I don't much care for his remarks, but yours were wonderful!

Way to go, FReeperWoman!


14 posted on 12/28/2004 4:16:39 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Howlin

Well, I am jealous. I have not yet heard from Mr. E, altho I did suggest in my email that he contact: Mrs. Arafat, who makes $100,000 a MONTH; Saddam's cronies, he is reputed to have $1 BILLION; Kofi and Son, who could tithe off their 'skim;' etc. And that I would like to see an accounting, after this is all over, of country-by-country donations, INCLUDING private relief organizations, by country. Did you send it to ochany@un.org? or his personal email???


15 posted on 12/28/2004 4:17:32 PM PST by bboop
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To: eureka!
Would he like to explain why he does not attack the French, who have contributed only $136,000 (to US $35M).

Must be the exchange rate difference. (or the fact that the French bought themselves a piece of the securty council)

16 posted on 12/28/2004 4:17:39 PM PST by Swanks
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To: Howlin

Way to go!


17 posted on 12/28/2004 4:18:28 PM PST by fastattacksailor (The US without the UN is like not having your mother-in-law with you on your honeymoon)
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To: Howlin

LOL. Methinks they know that they are not loved here. Indeed, I would not be surprised if they are, inside, less than totally saddened by this new "opportunity to lead". Color me cynical but Rwanda/Sudan etc. shows that the UN is exactly as you have called them. May they rot in H*ll....


18 posted on 12/28/2004 4:18:42 PM PST by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: Howlin

bump


19 posted on 12/28/2004 4:18:55 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Howlin

Great job Howlin. Post his email address and I'll send him a polite letter :-)


20 posted on 12/28/2004 4:19:05 PM PST by MJY1288 (John McCain, Chuck Hagel and Bill Crystal are the Weakest Link. BOYCOTT THEM!)
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To: Howlin

I liked this email even better than the first one you sent.
Great job!!


21 posted on 12/28/2004 4:19:08 PM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: Howlin
Here is my quick e-mail to Egeland,

"Mr. Egeland,

I am writing to express my deep disgust for your recent comments, which I have seen in full context, concerning the supposed stinginess of “rich” nations. The so-called “rich” nations you refer to are basically the only UN member states that provide substantial international aid. Without these stingy nations the UN would have naught in terms of monetary and non-monetary aid. Although I whole-heartedly disagree with your conclusions regarding the giving nature of “rich” nations I would implore you and your fellow UN bureaucrats to keep on running your mouths and insulting the cows from whose utters you suck. You and your ilk can only aid in the efforts of patriotic Americans in disassociating our nation from your corrupt, ineffectual, and anti-American “organization”."

FReegards
22 posted on 12/28/2004 4:19:51 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: Howlin

Good for you! And what you said was SPOT ON.

We are very generous and we'll give to the agencies providing the aid directly.


23 posted on 12/28/2004 4:20:09 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Howlin
My dear, you were far too nice to the man.

His comments about what a great job he's been doing is too over the top.

There are NO UN agencies doing anything successfully.

He ought to know that he hurt the cause tremendously with his mean spirited comments. Many will not even consider donating now that they've been so unfairly characterized.

Guess they'll just have to dip into the money they scammed from the Food for Oil program.

24 posted on 12/28/2004 4:20:54 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Howlin

Good job Howlin..proud of ya.


25 posted on 12/28/2004 4:21:03 PM PST by Critical Bill
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To: Howlin

you are so unbelievably cool!!!


26 posted on 12/28/2004 4:21:05 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: MJY1288
egeland@un.org
27 posted on 12/28/2004 4:21:46 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: Howlin

Nicely done.


28 posted on 12/28/2004 4:21:53 PM PST by secret garden (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will.)
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To: Howlin

BTW, leave it to that snarky dingbat, Ceci Connelly, to take up the UN's clarion call that the U.S. is indeed "stingy".

I saw her on Fox today twice, and twice this was her message.


29 posted on 12/28/2004 4:21:56 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: snopercod

I almost included that part, too, but decided to save that for later.........LOL.


30 posted on 12/28/2004 4:21:57 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

"You may call us "stingy," but we call you and the UN "wasteful".........and downright corrupt. "

Hey. We agree again. We better not keep this up. Isn't there something to argue about? :)


31 posted on 12/28/2004 4:22:19 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: Howlin

Excellent work! E-mails like yours will make them sit up and take notice. Although they will probably continue their sculduggery, at least they won't be polluting the airwaves with their obnoxious comments!


32 posted on 12/28/2004 4:22:22 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: bboop

Jan Egeland egeland@un.org


33 posted on 12/28/2004 4:22:49 PM PST by Howlin
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To: cyncooper

She's been doing it all day long. GRRRRR.


34 posted on 12/28/2004 4:23:21 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Thank You


35 posted on 12/28/2004 4:23:24 PM PST by MJY1288 (John McCain, Chuck Hagel and Bill Crystal are the Weakest Link. BOYCOTT THEM!)
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To: Howlin

What? Considering what the weenie said, I thought you showed an outstanding amount of self control.


36 posted on 12/28/2004 4:23:27 PM PST by wolfpat
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To: Howlin
Heehee Howlin.. how about if we tell him we will match the Muslim countries dollar for dollar...
37 posted on 12/28/2004 4:23:41 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: Swanks

Re#16 Don't get me started on France and the UN. grrrrr....


38 posted on 12/28/2004 4:24:04 PM PST by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: MJY1288

Jan Egeland egeland@un.org


39 posted on 12/28/2004 4:24:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Well, does anyone have an e-mail address for Miss Prunes and Prisms?


40 posted on 12/28/2004 4:25:31 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Howlin

Tell it like it is. He said stingy and he can't take it back.


41 posted on 12/28/2004 4:25:36 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Swanks

I have just about had enough of these American haters, standing on OUR land and saying crap like this.


42 posted on 12/28/2004 4:25:53 PM PST by Howlin
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To: cyncooper
When I saw Ceci on Special Report I found myself verbalizing loudly at the TV.
43 posted on 12/28/2004 4:25:53 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: cyncooper
BTW, leave it to that snarky dingbat, Ceci Connelly, to take up the UN's clarion call that the U.S. is indeed "stingy".

I saw her on Fox today twice, and twice this was her message.

I saw her too but Charles Krauthammer slapped her down a couple of times. The other times he just smirked at her, like "Ceci, you ignorant....."

44 posted on 12/28/2004 4:25:54 PM PST by tsmith130 ("Some folks look at me and see a certain swagger, which in Texas is called "walking."" - GWB)
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To: Howlin
I want my childhood Halloween UNICEF collections back and returned to their rightful owners. What is 13.00 worth after 25 years calculated to include interest? :)

APf
45 posted on 12/28/2004 4:26:02 PM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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To: Howlin

Thata girl!


46 posted on 12/28/2004 4:26:04 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: Howlin
You wrote EXACTLY what I was thinking.

Good going.......sir.

47 posted on 12/28/2004 4:26:05 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Howlin

Thanks


48 posted on 12/28/2004 4:26:06 PM PST by MJY1288 (John McCain, Chuck Hagel and Bill Crystal are the Weakest Link. BOYCOTT THEM!)
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To: Howlin
I think you were way too nice given their provocations. But that is probably why my email to my Mayor is blocked. Nice is good, I guess. Good job.
49 posted on 12/28/2004 4:27:19 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

You notice what he did in his email; he's completely ignoring what he said in the beginning (what I suspect is what he REALLY thinks) and is now trying to hide behind Trent Duffy's DIPLOMATIC wording at the White House, completely ignoring Duffy's word "recently." He's lucky Duffy didn't say "Did ya read his RETRACTION?"


50 posted on 12/28/2004 4:27:33 PM PST by Howlin
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