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Report of Bomb On Norfolk Naval Airstation Bus
Foxnews | 12/30/04 | Foxnews

Posted on 12/30/2004 9:26:20 AM PST by GRRRRR

Breaking blurb only from FOX.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: airstation; bomb; bombthreat; norfolk
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To: GRRRRR

I was stationed in Norfolk years ago. Back then the bus was the TRT, (tidewater regional transit)not the HRT.


101 posted on 12/30/2004 12:50:11 PM PST by virgil
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To: Chad Fairbanks

It took me awhile but I finally learned not to start out saying, "well actually..." while watching movie that have the Navy involved.


102 posted on 12/30/2004 12:51:37 PM PST by Senior Chief (Here I am, right where I left myself.)
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To: Senior Chief

The other patrons in the movie theatre where myself and some shipmates went to see "Hunt for Red October" were, I think, a little miffed at the constant laughter coming from our row... ;0)


103 posted on 12/30/2004 12:53:50 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I’ve been following it. The notice that it was a hoax came in my Email from WTKR. Good training for the local good guys – but it may have been a test of the system by the bad guys.


104 posted on 12/30/2004 12:55:05 PM PST by R. Scott (A Very Merry Christmas to all.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

LOL, no doubt. I think, particularly as an ex dual-qualed AIC/ASAC...anytime an aircraft was involved I got into MORE trouble. The worst was that da*n Tom Cruise movie...oh yeah, "Top Gun".
Do you remember that really hokey TV series, "Super Carrier"?










105 posted on 12/30/2004 1:12:52 PM PST by Senior Chief (Here I am, right where I left myself.)
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To: Senior Chief

I don't recall "Super Carrier", no. I do, however, remember watching "Hunt Fore Red October" on DVD one time recently, and I thought to myself "Hey, let's pause here and check out this guy's fruit salad" and boy was I surprised to see an Air Force Basic Training Ribbon on the guy... I could have overlooked it as maybe the guy transfered services or something, but unfortunately he was one of the soviets... ;0)


106 posted on 12/30/2004 1:18:40 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

LOL,

I was a submariner and it's been a hell of a long time since any skimmer had to rescue a boat (US Navy). The last one being the diesel boat (USS Bonefish in 1988) that had the battery fire off of the East coast. Even in that case the sub crew rescued the sub, the skimmer was used only to evacuate unnecessary personnel from the sub.


107 posted on 12/30/2004 1:18:42 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast ("....to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Chad Fairbanks

I think I'll watch it again just to check out the ribbons now. I had never paid attention to them in the past. I remember the first time I watched "Hunt for Red October" I nearly busted a gut when they launched the Airborne torpedo from the FFG CIC which wasn't really an FFG CIC.


108 posted on 12/30/2004 1:22:20 PM PST by Senior Chief (Here I am, right where I left myself.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Ack! Boomer? F'ing boomers aren't real subs, nor are they manned by real submariners.

"No slack in Fast Attacks, NO pride in a boomer ride"

:)


109 posted on 12/30/2004 1:24:05 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast ("....to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast

They were lucky they were able to surface... had she not been able to, that would have been where we came in - four-point moor with the anchors and spuds, and send down the SRC...


110 posted on 12/30/2004 1:26:26 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast

ROTFL... What SubRon were you in?


111 posted on 12/30/2004 1:27:11 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
You are absolutely correct that they were lucky to surface. Moments after they broke water, the HP air piping in the forward compartment (where the Batt fire was) started to rupture.

Had it happened submerged they may not have had the air to blow the MBT's with. Though they may have been able to pump variable ballast and drove to the surface, for as long as the aft battery held out. Then they could have evacuated as many as possible, while the ship remained broached.

Everyone else? Probably would have joined their shipmates from Thresher and Scorpion. Yes, damned lucky is right.

If the boat went down, there would have been no chance of an SRC or DSVR rescue, as the water was deep enough that it would have imploded the hull before she hit bottom.
112 posted on 12/30/2004 1:36:20 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast ("....to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast

Yup. Good point. Since the ship I served on was built in the 1940s, it was geared towards subs that had less diving depths... about 850 feet. I took the 800-foot plunge in that SRC... THAT was a blast...

So, since we weren't really needed for sub rescue (though we did drill and drill and drill...) we spent our time doing dive ops, torpedo recovery, Trident II missle launch security... ya know, the usual ;0)


113 posted on 12/30/2004 1:39:42 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

SubRon 6 out of Norfolk in the 1980's and SubRon 5 out of San Diego in the 1990's.


114 posted on 12/30/2004 1:39:55 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast ("....to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast

I was SubRon6 in the late 80s - On an ASR. Our "Parent" was the Hunley...


115 posted on 12/30/2004 1:43:54 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

The fact you never had to make a sub rescue says volumes!

Besides none of us really wanted to do the things we drilled the most on. Though launching a couple 48's at an enemy sub would have felt gratifying...... as long as we hit and they missed.


116 posted on 12/30/2004 1:44:35 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast ("....to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast

Yeah, I was glad we never had to, actually. We were ready, though. Bottom out anywhere between the surface and crush depth, and we'd a been there...


117 posted on 12/30/2004 1:51:04 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: Old Sarge

Thanks for the ping Old Sarge. I'm late, as usual.


118 posted on 12/30/2004 2:19:48 PM PST by Oorang (I want to breathe the fresh air of freedom, at the dawn of every day, it's the American way.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Welcome to Israel thanks to your local elected democrat and the ACLU.


119 posted on 12/30/2004 3:47:44 PM PST by antiunion person (Everything I Say is Fully Substantiated by my Own Opinion)
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast

Been there, done that on both. Never turn your nose up at something that can destroy civlization with a switch.


120 posted on 12/30/2004 4:36:16 PM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: deaconjim

which is why I have never turned my nose up at the Democrats

:)

I to served on both, 3 Deterrent Patrols aboard the venerable James K Polk SSBN 645.

Which is why I know of what I speak. If I had it to do over again I would not have wasted 19 months of my Navy career on a 'Boomer".

I learned absolutely nothing from that experience, other than it was a blight on an otherwise wonderful 20 years.

Nothing is more demoralising, to a thinking person, then spending 2 1/2 months, at a time, boring holes in the ocean and then coming home to pretend you accomplished something.

:)


121 posted on 12/30/2004 4:44:24 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast ("....to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast

I brought the James Madison, SSBN 627 out of the yards and made 7 patrols. After that, I spent a year and a half on the Narwhal, SSN 671. Made electricity and answered bells on both, and got paid the same.

Can't think of a thing I would have changed about my Navy career, including the decision to end it before I had to add to the aforementioned list.


122 posted on 12/30/2004 5:05:09 PM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: GRRRRR

So.....what happened with this?


123 posted on 12/30/2004 5:56:16 PM PST by The Coopster
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To: The Coopster

Never mind.......


124 posted on 12/30/2004 6:00:15 PM PST by The Coopster
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast
"I learned absolutely nothing from that experience, other than it was a blight on an otherwise wonderful 20 years."

Well, I was one of those fast attack bubbleheads (insert snotty primadonna comment knocking boomers here), and as far as I'm concerned, boomer patrols are some of the most important work a sailor can do.

We can only take strategic nuclear deterrence for granted because we already have it. If we didn't, the world would be a very different place indeed, comrade.

So for what it's worth, thanks for doing what you had to do.

The truth is that duty on a fast attack boat is pretty damn boring, too. For the guys who work in the back, it's all basically a matter of depth, speed and plant parameters. Watching steam demand. Oooh, pinch my arm. Doesn't really matter what you're pushing or where, the view in the back is always the same.

Now if you're a coner on the otherhand, then maybe it's more fun and yeah boomer patrols would suck by comparison. At least the ops guys get to plot courses and fiddle around with the periscopes and masts. For the guys in the back, on the other hand, it's "Oh hey, rig for ventilation. Whoop de freakin' do."

Sorry your tour sucked, mine basically did, too. But that's life aboard submarines for you, in all its unglamorous splendor. If it was really all that much fun, a lot more people would be doing it. 8^)

125 posted on 12/30/2004 7:01:07 PM PST by Imal (Whatever kills you doesn't make you stronger.)
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To: Imal

I would never knock the mission of the FBM fleet, nuclear deterence helped win the cold war days....so far. Though I think Putin would like to bring them back, unless the Chineese beat him to it.

My complaint (lame as it may be) is that it was extremely boring and many FBM sailors acted as if they were god's gift to the navy. (In truth it was mostly the zeroes that acted that way).

I actually had the best of both worlds, coner and engineering, being one of the lowly A gang types. AS COW and Dive I got in on all the fun Spec Ops with fast boats, even played with Seal teams as the boats Dive Master during Lock in / Lock out Ops.

As AMR1 and Aux of the Watch (the early years) I got to clean Engine Room bilges, shaft alley, suffer through ORSE drills and even participate as part of the Rad Decon team (what fun!/sarcasm off) with my Nuc trained buddies.

But all in all with the ops fast boats did and the ports we went to it was far better than my boomer experience.


126 posted on 12/30/2004 7:22:42 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast ("....to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: RaceBannon

19? 19? The Gunslinger been here???


127 posted on 12/31/2004 12:22:56 AM PST by Duaine (Peace is our profession....)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Welcome to FRee Republic Thunderpilot! Prayers for your safety.


128 posted on 01/02/2005 12:55:26 PM PST by Libertina (Here comes 2005 - get your pajamas ready!)
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