Posted on 01/07/2005 6:38:09 PM PST by Dr. Marten
China's feelings about the Bush victory
Peter Zhang
BrookesNews.Com
Monday 8 November 2004
That Kerry's defeat is a disappointment to the regime is no surprise to China watchers. The regime regarded Kerry as a self-absorbed, vacillating, weak and an unpatriotic man with little or no character. Just the kind of man they would like to see as president of the United States.
Unlike the majority of Kerry's domestic critics he was not seen as a "flip-flopper," far from it. To those schooled in Marxist-Leninist principles anything that serves socialism is justified.
Therefore Kerry's continual reversals, rationalisations, lies and denials were viewed as merely a means to conceal and advance his own view of America. A view that he knew the mass of Americans would find unacceptable. This is why he was forced to sail under false colours.
One effect of Kerry's defeat is to set some wondering about the alleged decline of American power and resolve. There are those who think that America is in a terminal state of decline, despite its recent military victories. A Kerry victory would have lent some force to this view. (In their minds only an ignoramus or someone who detested his country would vote for a man like Kerry).
This is an important point. The more the regime thinks that American resolve is real and strengthening the less inclined it will be to listen to reckless military advice, particularly with respect to Taiwan.
China's America watchers have been delving into the innards of the election result. What they found does not bode well for Chinese militarists or Democrats. The regime, as I have mentioned before, is acutely aware of the powerful influence that America's mainstream media wields in its political affairs.
From their point of view they have for many years considered this influence benign in that it indirectly served the interests of the regime. Kerry's defeat now suggests that this influence is on the wane.
Beijing firmly believes that were it not for the rise of what has become the new or alternative media Kerry would now be president. Moreover they also believe that the results conceal the true magnitude of the Bush victory.
Roughly speaking, if one makes adjustments for the "blame America crowd" and those who were influenced by the media and the mass of anti-Bush propaganda the anti-Kerry vote was massive.
As they see it, the more informed the American public becomes the more it will shift toward the Republicans. This assumes that Democrats will not learn from their mistakes. A reasonable assumption, at least in the short term, considering that the left apparently controls the party.
That the alternative media played a significant role in re-electing Bush troubles the regime. What if the net provides the Chinese people with alternative views and a source of news and facts that could undermine the regime's legitimacy? Expect intensified attempts to control the net.
I think it is safe to conclude that the regime will largely accommodate itself to the Bush administration. Although there still might be some sabre-rattling over Taiwan's independence it will go no further than that.
They can't. That's why your fears will not materialize. A "friendly place" demands free expression. Here at FR we are free to disagree with each other. How many times have you seen a liberal who makes honest posts engaged in debate on FR. I have seen many. But how many honest conservatives are engaged in open debate on DUh? None. I know because I've tried.
Truly open debate is toxic to the left because their assumptions and beliefs are predicated either on lies or psychoses, neither of which would survive prolonged honest analysis. They are ruled cheifly by fear, the fear of being labeled as something less than "enlightened" (homophobic, sexist, bigot, etc.) It is they who are the totalitarians, and totalitarians cannot flourish in an open society. That's just the way it is.
"Btw, hadn't author Peter Zhang worked for an Aussie publication in the past?"
I do believe you are correct on that!
<< I don't speak any Cantonhua though >>
Me too.
Only Mandarin and some Fujian/Hokkien/Taiwanese and some Teochew.
Later, Xian Sen -- B A
That clause was drilled into us way back in high school. I bet it barely gets a mention anymore.
I hope you're right. Nothing would please me more than a continued meltdown. It's kind of like when the Berlin wall fell -- I just never thought I'd be seeing this.
Along with our allies, we can be very proud of great accomplishments that will carry us forth even in the dreaded and stormy waters of a second term for George W. Bush.
Oh yeah, the Commies' plan worked REALLY well, didn't it? And they can be proud of their accomplishments??!! What accomplishments? Their plan failed...
It's at the Communist Party USA website. Sorry that it was so long, but when I went to excerpt it, I thought so much of it was relevant that I ended up leaving it intact. The link is here at http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/605/1/27/ (It is also at the very top of #23.)
It certainly did fail -- and the wailing and gnashing of teeth at CPUSA at Senator Kerry's loss indicates just how much of their candidate he was. If Senator Zell Miller had been on the Democrat's ticket, CPUSA would not have been out there pounding the pavement to get him elected and writing these types of articles. But Senator Kerry is so far to the left that the CPUSA had no trouble openly endorsing him and spending money to get him elected.
And the Chinese realize this....
Are you in the Guang Dong area?
If I remember, didn't the Chinese jokingly refer to Clinton as " Our man in Washington "?
Ni Hao.
Wo hui shuo yidiar Puthonguah, ke shi wo shuo de bu hao.
While in Beijing recently, I read an article where officials were looking for public input on ideas of improving the city's water quality. The headline boasted of "democracy" working in the city of 12.5 million. As i continued reading the article, I stumbled upon the almost oblivious fact thirty persons had submitted their ideas in the past year. What democracy!
Wan an, wo pengyou!
I care about Taiwan enough to even donate my IMI Desert Eagle (expensive weapon) if such a charity existed.
Regardless of what is said by the MSM, Bush has been helping Taiwan more than any other president in history. The Hellfire missile sale, the US-Japan base within minutes of Taiwan, the returning of active duty US soldiers to Taiwan. And probebly a lot more behind the scenes.
In China and here, as well. Hillary Clinton, the Dems, and even some Republicans are continuing to advocate the need for "a gatekeeper" for the Internet, a.k.a., control--by them, of course.
Unlike China a lot more people have access to the net here. Only thong such a measure would be for us Americans is a barrier that can be shattered.
hehe..I don't think they were joking.
That sounds about par for the course.
Everyone is probably wondering what's wrong with the water.....I mean, everything tastes fine that comes out of my water cooler. /sarcasm
I'm not that great at interpreting pinyin, especially when it doesn't have tone marks, but I know what you're saying.
It was a little difficult to improve my putonghua at first, because everyone here speaks the local dialect more often than not and that can be confusing, if not aggravating, at times.
Cheers!
Beijing firmly believes that were it not for the rise of what has become the new or alternative media Kerry would now be president. Moreover they also believe that the results conceal the true magnitude of the Bush victory. Roughly speaking, if one makes adjustments for the "blame America crowd" and those who were influenced by the media and the mass of anti-Bush propaganda the anti-Kerry vote was massive. As they see it, the more informed the American public becomes the more it will shift toward the Republicans.The large voter turnout and Bush' victory with an actual majority of the vote -- plus gains throughout the country (including in Washington state, where the Dim votes were not as large as claimed) -- shows that voters saw a real choice, and voted accordingly. Rather's shoddy attempt to chop-block the Prez blew up in his own face. But I don't think the alternative media (that includes us, right? ;') will play any further direct factor. For one thing, the Dims tried reaching people through the web, but found that forums such as this one are participatory -- and the last thing the Dims want is for people to participate in any debate.
This assumes that Democrats will not learn from their mistakes. A reasonable assumption, at least in the short term, considering that the left apparently controls the party.The recent talk of trying to co-opt the Pro-Life movement is an example of the Dims not learning from their mistakes. Everyone (even their supporters) is aware what their agenda is; furthermore, they see everything in terms of we vs they, black vs white, heads vs tails... hey, wait a minute... I thought conservatives were the ones who were supposed to do that?
That the alternative media played a significant role in re-electing Bush troubles the regime. What if the net provides the Chinese people with alternative views and a source of news and facts that could undermine the regime's legitimacy? Expect intensified attempts to control the net.Expect the Chinese regime to continue to age and die, as most Chinese mostly go on with their lives, unconcerned with anything but manufactured goods and status symbols.
I think it is safe to conclude that the regime will largely accommodate itself to the Bush administration. Although there still might be some sabre-rattling over Taiwan's independence it will go no further than that.It wasn't going to go any further than that anyway. The Chinese are talking loud because they are in the weaker position. This will continue. Taiwan isn't going to sit idly by, either.
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Thanks Dr. Marten ~ very enlightening!
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