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Odd Couple Gibson, Moore Exchange Praise (Say It Ain't So Mel!
Yahoo! News (AP) ^ | 1/10/2005 | n/a

Posted on 01/10/2005 11:24:54 AM PST by Pyro7480

Odd Couple Gibson, Moore Exchange Praise

PASADENA, Calif. - Mel Gibson and Michael Moore have been used as shorthand for cultural and political divisions among Americans, but how do the filmmakers feel about each other? Cue the Hollywood ending — it's hugs all around.

"I saw the film. I liked it," Gibson told AP Radio Sunday at the 31st Annual People's Choice Awards, countering the contention that "Fahrenheit 9/11" fans and "The Passion of the Christ" enthusiasts are mutually exclusive groups.

Moore's critique of President Bush's policies since the Sept. 11 attacks and Gibson's film about Jesus Christ's final hours were huge hits at the box office in 2004, and both won People's Choice awards Sunday. "Fahrenheit 9/11" was named favorite movie and "The Passion of the Christ" was the favorite drama.

"I feel a kind of strange kinship with Michael," Gibson said. I mean, they're trying to pit us against each other in the press, but this is all just a hologram, you know. They've really got nothing to do with one another. They were used as some kind of divisive left-right thing."

Moore said he saw Gibson's film twice, and even took his father to see it.

"I thought it was a powerful piece of filmmaking," Moore told AP Radio Sunday. "I'm a practicing Catholic, and you know I think Mel and I may be from different wings of the Catholic Church. My film might have been called 'The Compassion of the Christ.'"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; barf; fahrenheit33ad; gibson; mel; moore; passion; thepassionofthefatso
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1 posted on 01/10/2005 11:24:55 AM PST by Pyro7480
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To: bushfamfan

Here's your proof...


2 posted on 01/10/2005 11:26:29 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480

I dont know...

it could be graciousness, or it could be that Mel just doesn't care....who knows....

they might even be friends maybe....


3 posted on 01/10/2005 11:26:56 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 4 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: Pyro7480
My film might have been called 'The Compassion of the Christ.'"

Only after a night of REALLY hard drinking.

We know who the father of lies is, maybe Mickey is the nephew or something.

4 posted on 01/10/2005 11:27:56 AM PST by siunevada
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To: MikeinIraq

Mel's father harbors all sort of fringe conspiracy theories about U.S. foriegn policy so I'm not surprised he liked Moore's film.


5 posted on 01/10/2005 11:28:20 AM PST by Borges
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To: MikeinIraq

I'm betting he was just being gracious. Hell, W. praised Kerry after the election. This is much ado about nothing.


6 posted on 01/10/2005 11:30:32 AM PST by TheBigB ("A Queen is never late. Everyone else is simply...early." ~~Queen Clarisse Rinaldi of Genovia)
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To: Pyro7480; bushfamfan
Here's your proof...

"I saw the film. I liked it," Gibson told AP Radio Sunday

Of course, this could mean he's a science fiction fan. He was in 'Signs' after all.

7 posted on 01/10/2005 11:30:52 AM PST by siunevada
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To: Pyro7480
"I'm a practicing Catholic

Practicing what?

8 posted on 01/10/2005 11:31:10 AM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Socialism failed. Bush won. Wellstone is dead. Get over it, DUmmies!)
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To: Pyro7480
"I thought it was a powerful piece of filmmaking," Moore told AP Radio Sunday. "I'm a practicing Catholic, and you know I think Mel and I may be from different wings of the Catholic Church. My film might have been called 'The Compassion of the Christ.'"

And Jesus probably would be running an abortion clinic in the film.

As for Gibson's remarks, someone should tell him how moore said that the terrorist islamofascist scum are akin to the Patriots who founded the greatest country on Earth.

9 posted on 01/10/2005 11:31:22 AM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: Pyro7480

Yet another one to cross of my watch list. At this rate, only Jimmy Stewart & John Wayne movies will be left to watch.


10 posted on 01/10/2005 11:31:52 AM PST by pissant
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To: siunevada

Hey, don't lump Fahrenheit in with 'Signs.' Signs is based on facts.


11 posted on 01/10/2005 11:32:00 AM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Socialism failed. Bush won. Wellstone is dead. Get over it, DUmmies!)
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To: MikeinIraq

I don't think so. The remarks I read slamming the Iraq war makes me even wonder if his Christianity is real. Anyone who would stand by while Saddam filled yet more mass graves with tortured victims doesn't seem like much of a Christian to me.


12 posted on 01/10/2005 11:32:35 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Pyro7480
Moore told AP Radio Sunday. "I'm a practicing Catholic"

That's disturbing news.

13 posted on 01/10/2005 11:33:30 AM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: pissant

It sounds to me like Mel was just being gracious towards Michael. Michael's the one that said he saw Mel's film twice, and that he "even took his dad to see it," not the other way around (as another Freeper on this thread implied). I think a mountain's being made out of nothing here, people. Mel's a good guy.


14 posted on 01/10/2005 11:33:57 AM PST by detsaoT (insert hot-button issue here.)
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To: Pyro7480

"I saw the film. I liked it,"...

Mmmmmmmm, just lost a lot of respect for MG.


15 posted on 01/10/2005 11:35:03 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Pyro7480
Here's your proof...

Sort of like Orin Hatch's best friend, being Ted Kennedy.<(•¿•)>

16 posted on 01/10/2005 11:35:04 AM PST by itsahoot (There are some things more painful than the truth, but I can't think of them.)
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To: Borges

Moore took HIS father to see The Passion!!!!!!!!


17 posted on 01/10/2005 11:35:22 AM PST by Mears
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To: Pyro7480
In another account, I read where Mel said that there were parts where he had disagreements about the editing and other things in the film F911.

Did anyone ever see Mel's movie "Conspiracy Theory?". Mel is into conspiracies, it was handed down to him from his father. I can see how he might like F911 in a way. I am sure alot of this was just Mel being gracious, and appreciative of how another independent film maker has bucked the odds and succeded.

18 posted on 01/10/2005 11:36:47 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Pyro7480

Is Mel drinking again?


19 posted on 01/10/2005 11:37:23 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Pyro7480
Look my brother loves fatty moore but i can't stand him, surely that doesn't mean I should hate my bro right?

Gibson is playing the proverbial two step. Pandering to the fag lefties in Hollywood but at the same time lining up his chickens to roost. He wants to run a studio!! You do not do that by alienating fagland!!

Hell if it wasn't for fatty Moore would the right not have been galvanized to defeat Kerry? Who knows maybe Fatty is a double agent!! passing himself off as a bleeding heart liberal but deep deep down inside, he is a crafty neocon in league with Cheny and Wolfy!!!

LOL

20 posted on 01/10/2005 11:37:28 AM PST by bubman
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To: Paradox

'Conspiracy Theory' actually directed by frequent Mel Gibson collaborator Richard Donner (Lethal Weapon movies, Maverick).


21 posted on 01/10/2005 11:38:16 AM PST by Borges
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To: Pyro7480

Oh come on, Mel Gibson, don't be so fatuous. Fahrenheit 9/11 was a bunch of garbage. I hope he has to 'clarify' this statement.


22 posted on 01/10/2005 11:38:20 AM PST by No Dems 2004
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To: MizSterious
The remarks I read slamming the Iraq war makes me even wonder if his Christianity is real.

Are you implying that those who opposed the invasion of Iraq aren't Christian?

Anyone who would stand by while Saddam filled yet more mass graves with tortured victims doesn't seem like much of a Christian to me.

Are you referring to the gassing of the Kurds? Do Christians normally wait 20 years before they go to someones aid? Lends new meaning to the Good Samaritan concept.

23 posted on 01/10/2005 11:38:26 AM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: SAR; King David; ColoCdn; Dog Gone; roylene; roses of sharon; Trippin; Shermy; PleaseNoMore; ...

Pinging the participants in the other thread on this!


24 posted on 01/10/2005 11:39:05 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: MizSterious

ummm we did it for almost 25 years.....that argument doesnt work....

actually I dont really care about politics when it comes to movies. i just dont care.


25 posted on 01/10/2005 11:39:15 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 4 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: Grey Ghost II

Wasn't The Pope opposed to the Iraq war?


26 posted on 01/10/2005 11:40:31 AM PST by Borges
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To: Pyro7480
Pinging the participants in the other thread on this!

You work fast.

27 posted on 01/10/2005 11:40:54 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

I try. ;-)


28 posted on 01/10/2005 11:41:27 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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It's always good to bring this thread back. The article was actually written by a Nader supporter, Dave Kopel.

59 deceits of fahrenheit 9/11

29 posted on 01/10/2005 11:41:55 AM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: Pyro7480

Well, there's the proof. Now I won't care too much if he says what he does...at least something backs it up. I personally don't think it's that big a deal.


30 posted on 01/10/2005 11:42:18 AM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart.)
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To: No Dems 2004
"clarify"

He said he liked it, disagreed with parts of it. Moore is extremely talented. You could objectively find something good about it from a film/production standpoint. I object to the content and the messenger, but I'll never say it wasn't a well done movie (haven't seen it, but his other work was skillfully done - Roger and Me comes to mind). So I'm thinking Mel was just being nice, being a little flamboyant in his praise. He wasn't out there campaigning for Kerry.
31 posted on 01/10/2005 11:42:19 AM PST by mudblood
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; broadsword; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; american colleen; ...

Ping!


32 posted on 01/10/2005 11:42:33 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480
...you know I think Mel and I may be from different wings of the Catholic Church

Are there different wings? Perhaps the wheat and the tares wings?

33 posted on 01/10/2005 11:42:45 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Borges

Sorry, but that has me LOL.

I cannot wait for the response.

Popcorn, anyone (this ought to be better than both of the movies in question).


34 posted on 01/10/2005 11:43:01 AM PST by dmz
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To: HarleyD

LOL! Only from you. ;-) Uh, yeah there is. There are modernists and traditionalists, just like in any other religion.


35 posted on 01/10/2005 11:44:44 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: dmz

I didn't mean to be offensive to anyone if that was the case.


36 posted on 01/10/2005 11:44:48 AM PST by Borges
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To: Pyro7480



I can't believe Gibson said that. He must not have a clue about anything.

my review:

http://www.neoperspectives.com/farenheight_911.htm


37 posted on 01/10/2005 11:45:17 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/terrorism.htm)
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To: Pyro7480
They don't call it the left coast for nothing. The People's Choice Awards was a joke this year anyway. This is the first year they didn't use Gallup for the data, and instead they used Internet polling which provided the wacko libs/dims a way to rig the vote for Moore. The lengths they are willing to go to to move their agenda is simply breathtaking.
38 posted on 01/10/2005 11:45:24 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: MikeinIraq

Or he could be setting his sights on a position as a diplomat somewhere.


39 posted on 01/10/2005 11:45:32 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Borges
Wasn't The Pope opposed to the Iraq war?

yes, that's why I don't understand the comment: "The remarks I read slamming the Iraq war makes me even wonder if his Christianity is real".

40 posted on 01/10/2005 11:45:50 AM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: Borges; MizSterious
Wasn't The Pope opposed to the Iraq war?

I guess that doesn't make him "Christian."

/sarc

41 posted on 01/10/2005 11:45:52 AM PST by kstewskis ( you have to have a mind before you lose it....)
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To: Pyro7480; MikeinIraq; siunevada; MizSterious
Gibson was going to release Moore's film but Gibson could not handle two controversial film releases at the same time. Gibson, on Hannity hinted he did not support Bush and mentioned the lack of WMD as one reason. Hannity was dumbstruck atthe time and tried to explain it away at that time. Hannity, who is invested in promoting the Passion to his listeners did not press the point during the interview.

Gibson, is either a paleo-conservative or what would be called in Europe a Christian Democrat - Christian Democrats are for family values and are for the govt providing services - big govt.

Lastly, let us not forget thatthe Vatican was against the war in Iraq and hinted it was an unjust war.

42 posted on 01/10/2005 11:46:58 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Borges
Mel's father harbors all sort of fringe conspiracy theories about U.S. foriegn policy so I'm not surprised he liked Moore's film.

It was Michael Moore's father who saw Mel Gibson's film and not vice versa, at least as reported in the posted article's text.

It is Mel Gibson who is at fault for consorting with the enemy ...

43 posted on 01/10/2005 11:47:10 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Pyro7480

Maybe Mel is simply trying to be gracious. Still, my first reaction was to run for the airsick bag!


44 posted on 01/10/2005 11:47:22 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: sarasota

nah I dont think Mel will take the paycut....


45 posted on 01/10/2005 11:47:37 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 5 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Hey, don't lump Fahrenheit in with 'Signs.' Signs is based on facts.

Please showme an example or two if these "facts".
And eye witness accounts do NOT constitute facts.
46 posted on 01/10/2005 11:48:20 AM PST by newcats
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To: Destro

oh well so what....

It's just one man's opinion...he is entitled to it no matter what...

Doesnt mean I won't watch Lethal Weapon 17 or Braveheart 2....


47 posted on 01/10/2005 11:49:36 AM PST by MikefromOhio (DO I need a new screen name? I am no longer in Iraq :) 5 to keep 2 to change so far)
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To: newcats

Maybe you'd like to try reading my post again with your Sense of Humor hat on.


49 posted on 01/10/2005 11:49:59 AM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Socialism failed. Bush won. Wellstone is dead. Get over it, DUmmies!)
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To: Pyro7480

Thank you. His praise of Moore and his vicious film is enough for me. I'm no fan.


50 posted on 01/10/2005 11:50:30 AM PST by bushfamfan
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