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Human Brain Evolution Was a 'Special Event'
Howard Hughes Medical Institute ^ | 29 December 2004 | Staff

Posted on 01/12/2005 8:00:35 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: Jay777
Couldn't God have used evolution as a tool in his creation?

Yep.

81 posted on 01/12/2005 8:59:21 AM PST by Protagoras (Real conservatives do not advocate government force to attain societal goals)
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To: stremba

"We've done a rough calculation that the evolution of the human brain probably involves hundreds if not thousands of mutations in perhaps hundreds or thousands of genes — and even that is a conservative estimate.”

If we're believing that God directed the evolution of the human brain, at what point was that human brain the Adam of the Bible?


82 posted on 01/12/2005 9:00:27 AM PST by Jessarah
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To: Dataman
"Variation is observed. Evolution is not."

That's not true. Look up the example of the Peppered Moth in Britain that changed color when their tree trunks where stained black by coal soot during the Industrial Revolution. Before that, most of them where white, but there where a few black ones (variation in species). In a short time, the white ones mostly disappeared and the black ones predominated. That's a perfect example of selective pressure causing a species to change. True, they did not become a new species, but the example shows how species change due to environmental pressure.

Also, the fossil record shows many examples of evolution. Species appear and disappear in the fossil record throughout time. The Creation story doesn't explain that.

83 posted on 01/12/2005 9:00:36 AM PST by Batrachian
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To: Thatcherite

Yup, evolution even explains why whales and snakes have leg bone remnants..


84 posted on 01/12/2005 9:00:46 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Sovek
Fine, if you want me to explain evolution, it simply put was some accident that created the universe, and some accident that happened on earth to create a little bit of life, such as bacteria.

The theory of evolution has nothing to do with where life came from or how the universe began.

It was from that that we evolved using natural selection.

This statement is basically true.

I HAD to learn what evolution is in the BJU science books, IN THIRD GRADE. but it was tought as a theory, not fact.

What's your point? Nobody is claiming that the TOE is anything more than a theory.

you guys have no proof that evolution exists, I have yet to see it, all you have is "evidence" from "millions" of years ago.

What kind of proof would be adequate for you to accept that evolution occurs?

85 posted on 01/12/2005 9:01:45 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Thatcherite

"...in general high intelligence is not a particularly useful adaption. Sure we are numerous and dominate our planet for the last few-thousand years. The Sauropods managed that for 100 million years."

Extremely bad comparison. Humans are unique in that we lack almost any physical adaptations to the environment. Sauropods had every physical adaption needed to survive as long as they did. The only thing we have is intelligence. Not only is it a useful adaptation, it is our ONLY adaptation.


86 posted on 01/12/2005 9:02:35 AM PST by ryanjb2
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To: Jay777; Sovek; Theo

Well, I have to agree with Jay777.

Nobody has been able to deliver a successful argument to suggest that Creationism could not have been responsible for evolutionism. If God is within all of us, he also has the ability to tweak us for His purposes.

Personally, I do not believe that evolution just happened, but I can phathom the possibility, or probability that God controls evolution.

If we have proof of some evolution, we have proof of evolution. What we do not have is proof of how life began and here is where Creationism and the Bible chimes in.

If you do not believe at all in evolution, please explain to me why all human bones discovered are not Homo Sapiens.


87 posted on 01/12/2005 9:02:51 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty ("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
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To: Junior
"I'm not sure that's quite true. IIRC, goldfish have been bred from coi over the last 1500 years or so and are now a completely species."

I didn't know that. If it's true then it's certainly a point in favor of my Evolutionist argument. However, if they can still breed with the ancestral Coi then they are still the same species, as dogs and wolves are. They haven't diverged enough to be considered different species.

88 posted on 01/12/2005 9:04:49 AM PST by Batrachian
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To: ryanjb2

I expressed myself badly. I was merely trying to downgrade the idea that humans, with their intelligence, represent some kind of pinnacle of evolution that can regard itself as far more successful than past species.


89 posted on 01/12/2005 9:06:49 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Thatcherite

Sorry, my fault. I understand what you mean now, which is right.


90 posted on 01/12/2005 9:08:00 AM PST by ryanjb2
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To: Sovek
I'm sorry but there is no way I can belive evolution, there is just no way it is possible. The chances to create life as complicated as Human beings is just far too remote (say the chances of Teddy turning republican). Evolution still doesnt explain anything about animals anyway. nice post though.

The chances of teddy turning republican are as remote as the chances of liberals ever regaining political power again -liberals are at a political and genetic dead end...

Try the following link for some info that may interest you:

A Mathematical Proof of Intelligent Design In Nature

91 posted on 01/12/2005 9:09:23 AM PST by DBeers
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To: Thatcherite
I was merely trying to downgrade the idea that humans, with their intelligence, represent some kind of pinnacle of evolution that can regard itself as far more successful than past species.

I would strongly dispute that notion. Pure, unadorned evolution has one, singular measure of success: the ability to survive long enough to propagate. There is only one species with the capability to ensure that it survives the total annihilation of the planet itself. Guess which one that is?

92 posted on 01/12/2005 9:11:02 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Jessarah

I am unsure, but probably the point at which H. Sapiens diverged from its immediate predecessor.


93 posted on 01/12/2005 9:11:59 AM PST by stremba
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To: mlc9852
I seriously doubt "smart" men have more children, at least not from what I've seen.

I don't know. Even Einstein got around. Evolution doesn't distinguish between legitimat and illegitimate.

I'm not takling PhDs here. I'm talking about the guys that make the most money and have the most power.

94 posted on 01/12/2005 9:12:07 AM PST by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: Thatcherite

But if the pressure was more, then selection wouldn't "work any harder," it would work the same as it does elsewhere. They've flipped it, adding something beyond the "normal" result of pressure.

Also, the "Special Event" quote. I take this to mean unlike all other events. Again, not conforming to the other natural selection events.

They are saying that the development, selection for, greater brain size/power was favored among the human as opposed to the other primate species. This doesn't compute scientifically and I think that's why we see this type of "explanation."


95 posted on 01/12/2005 9:13:56 AM PST by D-fendr
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To: Sovek
Explain why there are two genders of, well everything?

That's not even close to being true. You should crack a biology book sometime.

96 posted on 01/12/2005 9:14:13 AM PST by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: Modernman
What kind of proof would be adequate for you to accept that evolution occurs?

I think we need to observe the introduction of a new genus through variation of an existing species. It seems if variation could "leap" into a new genus classification the evolution theory would have a few more allies.

97 posted on 01/12/2005 9:15:11 AM PST by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: AntiGuv
There is only one species with the capability to ensure that it survives the total annihilation of the planet itself. Guess which one that is?

Viruses?

98 posted on 01/12/2005 9:15:15 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Popman
Human Brain Evolution Was a 'Special Event'
The people at DU must not have been invited!

DU is descended from the control group.

99 posted on 01/12/2005 9:16:17 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: js1138

I would think the smart women would want to choose smart men.


100 posted on 01/12/2005 9:16:37 AM PST by mlc9852
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