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U.S. Copts Decries Slaying By Muslim Extremists
U.S. Newswire ^

Posted on 01/18/2005 8:53:27 PM PST by Selkie

U.S. Copts Association Decries Slaying By Muslim Extremists of Coptic-American Family

Tue Jan 18,10:55 AM ET

To: National Desk

Contact: U.S. Copts Association Communications Office, 202-737-3660

WASHINGTON, Jan. 18 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The U.S. Copts Association express its outrage, shock, and disbelief at the atrocious murder of a Coptic-American couple and their two children in their New Jersey home after father Hossam Armanious expressed "strong Coptic beliefs" to Muslim extremists on an internet discussion forum.

Armanious, a resident of heavily Coptic-populated Jersey City, was a frequent contributor to religious debates in chat rooms accessed through paltalk.com. The 47-year old Egyptian immigrant was known as an opinionated online defender of both his Christian faith and Egypt's persecuted Coptic minority. Authorities suspect the Armanious family's brutal slaying is linked to Armanious' vehement web postings defending Copts against militant Islam and rousing the ire of the internet forum's Muslim fundamentalist participants. A Muslim poster threatened Armanious with retaliation, warning, "We will hunt you down...and kill you."

Armanious, his wife Amal, and their fifteen- and eight-year old daughters Sylvia and Monica were found bound, gagged, and stabbed to death in their Jersey City home on Friday, Jan. 14. All four victim's throats had been slashed. Teenager Sylvia Armanious, an outspoken defender of Copts' religious freedom, sustained the most severe wounds, with slash marks on her throat, chest, and cross- tattooed wrist. Investigators point to the slashing of the teen's cross and the vicious nature of the slayings as indicators of a hate crime.

"Muslim extremists' gruesome slaying of an innocent Coptic family is not only appalling, but disturbing in its implications for the Coptic-American community," said Michael Meunier, president of the U.S. Copts Association. "Since Egypt's exponential increase in anti-Coptic hate crimes, Copts have fled to the U.S. seeking religious liberty and freedom from persecution. That such deadly prejudice has followed Coptic immigrants out of Egypt is deeply alarming, and must serve as a warning to U.S. officials in their campaign against terrorism. The Armanious family members are modern-day martyrs in Islamic fundamentalists' war on Christianity and the freedom it advocates. Al-Qaeda is not only in the Middle East but in New Jersey and we call on the FBI (news - web sites) to hunt down the killers and bring them to justice."

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The U.S. Copts Association, founded in 1996 and based in Washington D.C., advocates for democracy, religious freedom, and human rights in Egypt. The Association represents over 700,000 Egyptian Christians in the United States.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; armanious; christian; copthaters; coptic; islam; koran; murder; muslim; slaying; terrorism
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To: scoastie

Well, Bill Clinton agreed to house a bunch of Marielistas in Arkansas, so you weren't as wrong as you think.


21 posted on 01/18/2005 9:55:03 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: cake_crumb

They are coming for us. Relentlessly, with no remorse, over these many centuries they have not been deterred. The message of hate is a powerful one--and our children are very vulnerable.

The message is simple. Stand your ground, or perish along with those you most love.


22 posted on 01/18/2005 10:03:15 PM PST by petertare (!)
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To: petertare

Extremely well said


23 posted on 01/18/2005 10:07:05 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Rippin

I am quite certain that had it been fairer skinned family, this story would still be given low priority.

I could care less the color of the murdered family's skin.

They were fellow Christians and assuredly much braver ones than most Christians I know, myself included.

This story is underreported partly because of their profound faith.


24 posted on 01/18/2005 10:10:59 PM PST by Selkie
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To: flamefront

The devil always mixes a bit of truth in with his lies.

That's why Islam is so insidious.

The vast majority of followers don't delve too deep into and don't realise how dastardly its teachings ultimately are.

They need to have their noses rubbed in its teachings instead of just listening to their Imams.
There needs to be mass inundation of the truth about Islam in order to break the mass mind control it holds over the average follower.

Still the estimated amount of fanatical followers is breath taking - perhaps 130 million by some accounts.


25 posted on 01/18/2005 10:18:56 PM PST by Selkie
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To: Selkie

Or because of the faith of the likely murderers...

We wouldn't want to cause panic after all. /sarc


26 posted on 01/18/2005 10:19:30 PM PST by TFine80
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To: Selkie; MarMema; Kolokotronis; Destro; Agrarian
Investigators point to the slashing of the teen's cross and the vicious nature of the slayings as indicators of a hate crime.

Orthodox ping!

27 posted on 01/18/2005 10:20:23 PM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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To: Selkie; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
The Armanious family members are modern-day martyrs in Islamic fundamentalists' war on Christianity and the freedom it advocates.

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


28 posted on 01/18/2005 10:22:18 PM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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To: Selkie

CAIR's condemnation response: [crickets chirping]


29 posted on 01/18/2005 10:27:22 PM PST by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail, Chimpus Khan!])
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To: Selkie
"This story is underreported partly because of their profound faith."

The story is underreported soley because the victims were devout Christians and the media aren't about to report anything that might spark outrage amongst Christians and unite them. PERIOD

30 posted on 01/18/2005 10:38:57 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: hattend

CAIR's too busy shaking down Fox to bother with little things like Muslims butchering non-Muslims in the manner prescribed by the Qu'Ran


31 posted on 01/18/2005 10:39:03 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: cake_crumb

thank you..I KNEW he did SOMEthing...well, a pox on both he and Jummah!


32 posted on 01/18/2005 10:41:26 PM PST by scoastie
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To: hattend

Actually I'm seeing Muslim orgs decying these murders, which to me makes them more suspect.

Such as the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee of New Jersey.

Also Jersey City police want to explore every avenue before being forced to totally turn the investigation over to the FBI.

For now they FBI is merely assisting J.C Police but if they deem the murders to be Sectarian, theyll take over command.


33 posted on 01/18/2005 10:42:44 PM PST by Selkie
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To: petertare

Amen...you are right..they are coming...and many are homegrown...


34 posted on 01/18/2005 10:46:04 PM PST by scoastie
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To: Selkie

It's amazing to me that the "religion of peace" continually disproves itself. It's everywhere, folks. People are trying to wipe Christianity from everything. Libs, is this really what you want? God help you.


35 posted on 01/18/2005 10:49:15 PM PST by Just Lori (There! I said it!)
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To: Selkie

hope it isnt swept under the carpet."

They'll have a hard time doing it, besides, this is just a beginning.


36 posted on 01/18/2005 11:01:26 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: All

In case anyone's interested, you can find out more on this religion here:
http://www.coptic.net/EncyclopediaCoptica/


37 posted on 01/18/2005 11:36:23 PM PST by utahguy (Ya gotta kill it before you can grill it: Ted Nugent)
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To: Selkie; backhoe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1322287/posts
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Posted on 01/17/2005 2:12:45 AM CST by backhoe


38 posted on 01/18/2005 11:38:45 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: utahguy

bttt


39 posted on 01/18/2005 11:40:43 PM PST by kcvl
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To: MEG33

Thanks for the link!


40 posted on 01/18/2005 11:43:06 PM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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