Posted on 01/27/2005 3:28:02 PM PST by NativeTexun
Im all for legalised gun ownership but isnt this a little extreme? Somehow I can imagine that people who ride on busses have a social obligation to respect the wishes of others (i.e. those who do not feel secure around firearms).I used to work a late shift, in a not very good neighborhood, at a job that didn't pay enough for me to own a car.
Same argument goes with banning CHL inside stores.
One would not smoke on a public bus service for similar reasonsSure, but you don't see the city banning people from carrying a concealed pack of Marlboro's while riding the bus.
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Depends in what state, but not really. Those who are licensed to carry have the lowest crime rate of any group of citizens.
In fact, I would not know which of those on the bus are carrying or not. That's they whole point of concealed carry. The criminals don't know who is or is not carrying.
"An Armed Society is A Polite Society" Robert Heinlein
Oh, I see, you think that potential hostage takers were waiting for a law to make it legal for permit holders to carry before getting on a bus or train, etc. with a firearm. Of course they would. Anyone thinking about taking public transportation hostage wouldn't dream of doing it illegally now would they? They were just waiting so they wouldn't break any laws before taking a bunch of people hostage, and that is assuming they have a carrry permit.
The stupidity of some people is not to be believed. Yes, I mean you, feel free to take offense because I did at your post!
Unfortunately, those folks probably do believe at this point in their indoctrination that guns are evil and those who carry them are just itching for a reason to slap leather and gun down innocent bystanders.
Not at all. They require that safeties be kept on while boarding or debusing. Children under the age of five are not permitted to handle weapons without an adult supervising. And no weapon may be allowed to intrude into the personal space of other passengers.
Of course not. When it's time for their bus drivers to get off work they just pull over to the side of the street, park the bus and leave.
Passengers have to wait for another driver to arrive.
But maybe now the driver will be a little less eager to abandon the passengers.
I don't feel secure on a train when someone is reading a book by Michael Moore. But, I feel no social obligation to have the book forcibly removed from him. If you don't like guns, don't own one.
No it isn't extreme, the gun must be concealed, those who do not feel comfortable around firearms won't know it is there.
The difference is, were someone to smoke on a public bus, it would be obvious to everyone in the bus.
If a gangsta was robbing and raping one of these people "unconfortable" with concealed guns, do you think she would tell me to go away if I tried to rescue her with my .38 Special?
BTTT
Should people who ride buses be required to leave their rights at the curb? Worse, they'd be defenseless walking to and from the bus stop. Many who ride buses do so because they can't afford to drive, so I favor not only this change, but also the availability of inexpensive handguns because a person's rights should not be contingent on their ability to afford a $500-1,000 pistol. And, for the most part, armed citizens only need a gun that will go "bang" that one time they need it.
You say you're "for legalised gun ownership". That could mean you favor you and your friends being able to have them for your own reasons, but maybe not "the masses"? Maybe you're also "for legalised free speech" as long as it doesn't become too extreme?
Any non-felon has the right to carry a firearm anywhere he damn well pleases. I have a permit and I follow the laws because I don't want the hassle of not doing so, but the laws are still wrong.
EVERYONE will be safer.
Wake up and smell the blood. The biggest problem with public transit is lingering in a "target zone" waiting for the vehicle to arrive. Likewise when you get off.
The people most likely to "be offended" are the criminals (people who don't obey the law) who like their victims unarmed.
Wake up and smell the dictionary. Criminal: someone who doesn't obey the law. So, why would a criminal obey any law about carrying weapons anywhere?
And one should clean the drunks off their streets in residential neighborhoods so the children could play in their yards!!
Busy yourself in the UK.
Good thinking!
My family lived in Houston for a number of years, and damn I love that town! Maybe the hero with the fastest draw will rein supreme just like in the old westerns. Here's hoping they pop the bad guys right between their eyes.
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