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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO FEBRUARY DAILY THREAD 2005: TERRI IS OUR VALENTINE!
Free Republic and various sources | December 30, 2004, January 31, 2005 | Florida Voter

Posted on 01/31/2005 9:14:49 PM PST by TAdams8591

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To: Wampus SC; Ohioan from Florida
Feb. 22: Take away Terri's nourishment and water the very day of a Feast.

Feb. 22? hmmm... that happens to be the feast of the Chair of St. Peter, Apostle, celebrating Jesus' choosing him(Matthew 16) as first Pope, to shepherd the Church, against which the gates of hell wouldn't prevail (paraphrasing, since I've no Bible nearby). Perhaps another prayer is in order: Dear St. Peter, bishop and martyr, first in a long line of Popes, you were the first of them to be charged with the almost unbearable task of shepherding all us stiff-necked people down through the ages once Jesus ascended to the Father

Attorney Felos regularly mocks Christians and Jews, as per his book about spiritual litigation.

901 posted on 02/10/2005 8:17:16 AM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter
The following article from 2003 is an interesting discussion about the 1991 bone scan that revealed many broken bones throughout Terri's body, and possible explanations for her original collapse in 1990.

by Nat Hentoff

November 14th, 2003 5:30 PM

There is a new dimension in the fierce battle over whether Terri Schiavo's life is worth saving. A federally funded investigation has begun into certain medical judgments made by her husband and guardian, Michael Schiavo, including decisions in recent months. But more important is whether the inquiry will discover what actually caused Terri Schiavo's alleged cardiac arrest in 1990, which is said to be the reason her brain was deprived of oxygen, resulting in her condition for the past 13 years.

The degree to which this investigation is widely reported by the media may help determine whether Terri Schiavo lives or dies. Her husband is in court again to demand that her feeding tube be removed once more.

If the courts continue to support the husband, she may die before the investigation is completed. But even in that case, the results may lead to a change of state laws that could save other lives.

Conducting the investigation is the Advocacy Center for Persons With Disabilities (ACPD). Its website says it is "Florida's protection and advocacy program for persons with disabilities." As reported by Jeff Johnson on cnsnews.com (October 29), the agency has, according to its website, "the authority to investigate incidents of abuse and neglect when reported if there is probable cause to believe the incidents occurred."

As Jeff Johnson writes, "How quickly ACPD makes a determination will depend on how difficult it is for the agency to gain access to Mrs. Schiavo's medical records and to the people it needs to interview on both sides of the legal battle."

I have learned that ACPD has sent Michael Schiavo's lawyer a request that he authorize the release of Terri Schiavo's medical records. There was initial resistance, but the records have been turned over.

What gives this investigation the potential for a dramatic reassessment of previous court decisions on the legitimacy of Michael Schiavo's guardianship is in the lead of Jeff Johnson's story: "The Schindler family [Terri Schiavo's parents, who are fighting for her life] has found a new ally in the battle—one it did not seek out—in the person of a famed New York forensic pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden." Former chief medical examiner for the city of New York and co-director of the Medicolegal Investigation Unit of the New York State Police, Dr. Baden is often quoted in news reports and interviewed on television.

In one such interview on Fox News Channel's On the Record With Greta Van Susteren, I heard Baden agree with a panel of lawyers that Terri Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state, and will not recover. But on a subsequent October 24 appearance on that program, Dr. Baden had a different perspective on the origins of the Terri Schiavo case.

Baden had now seen a 1991 bone-scan report that cast considerable doubt on a claim in Michael Schiavo's successful medical malpractice suit, that Terri's brain injury was caused by a potassium imbalance that led to a heart attack depriving her brain of oxygen.

Dr. Baden, who has written three books on forensic pathology, told Van Susteren: "It's extremely rare for a 20-year-old to have a cardiac arrest from low potassium who has no other diseases . . . which she doesn't have. . . . The reason that she's in the state she's in is because there was a period of time, maybe five or eight minutes, when not enough oxygen was going to her brain. That can happen because the heart stops for five or eight minutes, but she had a healthy heart from what we can see." (Emphasis added).

Dr. Baden then addressed the 1991 bone-scan report on Terri Schiavo, which was completed on March 5 of that year by Dr. W. Campbell Walker in order to "evaluate for trauma" that may have been caused by a suspected "closed head injury." In the report, Walker wrote:

"This patient has a history of trauma. The presumption is that the other multiple areas of trauma also relate to previous trauma." (Emphasis added).

Here we get to what focused Dr. Baden's attention. On cnsnews.com, Jeff Johnson reported, "Walker listed apparent injuries to the ribs, thoracic vertebrae, both sacroiliac joints, both ankles and both knees."

In his interview with Greta Van Susteren, Dr. Baden noted "that the bone scan describes her having a head injury . . . and head injury can lead to the 'vegetative state' that Mrs. Schiavo is in now."

But, Baden continued, the bone scan "does show evidence that there are other injuries, other bone fractures that are in a healing stage [in 1991]."

Those injuries could have happened, Baden continued, from "some kind of trauma. The trauma could be from an auto accident, the trauma could be from a fall, or the trauma could be from some kind of beating that she obtained from somebody somewhere. It's something that should have been investigated in 1991 . . . and maybe [it was] by police at that time." (Emphasis added).

Why not see if there was a police report on those traumas to Terri in 1990? The Advocacy Center for Persons With Disabilities should look into this during its investigation of possible incidents of abuse and neglect of Terri. Moreover, Pamela Hennessy, spokesperson for Terri's parents and her brother, told cnsnews.com, "This is what the family and their doctors have been saying for a number of years."

I asked Hennessy to clarify that statement. "From the beginning," she told me, "they had serious doubts as to the reason for Terri's collapse. Then, when they first heard about the bone-scan report in November of last year, they tried to file a report with the police on a possible battery on Terri. But the police wouldn't help them."

The family believes that after Terri and her husband had a violent argument earlier on the evening she collapsed, Terri might have been strangled later that night. Says Pat Anderson, the lawyer for Terri's parents:

"Governor Jeb Bush should order the state-wide prosecutor of Florida to convene a jury to investigate all of this." And the Advocacy Center for Persons With Disability has that 1991 bone-scan report. Will the courts wait for the investigations—or hurry to send her into eternity? Should Michael Schiavo have the guardianship power to terminate her?

902 posted on 02/10/2005 8:26:33 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

"Terri ping to 872 for numbers. Just a few phone calls each day will help to get the job done!"

Bump!


903 posted on 02/10/2005 8:32:06 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: amdgmary

Too bad the news media doesn't interview the jurors that awarded all that money for Terri's rehab. I wonder what they think now that NONE of the money has been spent on it and went instead into the pockets of lawyers.


904 posted on 02/10/2005 8:36:20 AM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: amdgmary

Post #882 bump!


905 posted on 02/10/2005 8:50:30 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: amdgmary

Post #899 bump!


906 posted on 02/10/2005 9:10:13 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: TAdams8591

The Office of Inspector General published the following document regarding hospice compliance.

http://oig.hhs.gov/authorities/docs/hospicx.pdf

The Office of Attorney General investigations "revealed that certain hospices have falsified patient medical records (as in Terri's case when Dr. Gambone certified Terri in 2000 as having less than 6 months to live) and plans of care to exaggerate the negative aspects regarding a hospice patient's condition to justify reimbursement (from Medicade)."

Terri is not terminally ill so she's being held in Hospice illegally. Hospice is receiving funds from Medicade (illegally).

Terri's family has requested the Attorney General to investigate why Terri is being illegally held in hospice, but the AG refused to open an investigation.


907 posted on 02/10/2005 9:53:34 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: Scoop 1
Governor Bush should invoke protective custody of Terri AND a Grand Jury Investigation into the possibility that Michael Schiavo "caused" Terri's collapse.

All the irregularities at the Florida DOH should also be investigated.

910 posted on 02/10/2005 10:49:59 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: Scoop 1

Excellent!!


911 posted on 02/10/2005 10:58:24 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: Scoop 1

Fear not your work will not go unnoticed to save this woman and all humans under this sword.


913 posted on 02/10/2005 11:22:39 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: TAdams8591; amdgmary

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/02/27/TampaBay/Hospice_confirms_loan.shtml

Channeling money into their for-profit corporation. Naughty, naughty.


914 posted on 02/10/2005 1:23:38 PM PST by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: phenn
"She compared the money to any overhead cost, like the electric or water bill. Donors don't need to be specifically told because the software produced by the company enhances hospice's overall mission of caring for the terminally ill in Pinellas, Labyak said."

People like the woman above are some of the BEST rationalizers in the whole world. >p>If I had donated to Hospice, I'd be hopping mad that THAT money was loaned to a for profit software company. These people have NERVE!!!!!!!

915 posted on 02/10/2005 2:19:04 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: Scoop 1

Nice, Scoop!


916 posted on 02/10/2005 3:11:31 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Scoop 1; Ohioan from Florida; tutstar; Republic; russesjunjee; pc93; Dixielander; dandelion; ...
Terri Schiavo's feeding tube could be removed Feb. 22, attorney says: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-0209terryschiavo,0,3142746.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

Terri Schiavo's feeding tube could be removed Feb. 22, attorney says

The Associated Press Posted February 9 2005, 3:29 PM EST

FEBRUARY 22nd: FEAST OF THE CHAIR OF ST. PETER

917 posted on 02/10/2005 3:31:38 PM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: amdgmary

Anyone can call FLORIDA'S AG CRIST. The citizen's services phone number is at the beginning of this thread (I think).


918 posted on 02/10/2005 3:32:54 PM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: TAdams8591; pc93
"The Hospice mission" has certainly evolved into something insidious and to be feared. There are good hospices like LifePath and bad hospices like Hospice Woodside where Terri is. BUT, TERRI BELONGS IN NO HOSPICE OR IN NO NURSING HOME. Terri belongs in a rehab facility like Health South or back to Mediplex where she made significant process before Michael cut off her therapy.

JUDGE GREER TREATS MICHAEL LIKE A SON. Remember that if Judge Greer rules against Terri tomorrow, THAT MEANS, WE NEED TO CALL FOR HIS IMPEACHMENT by the Florida House. There are grounds and I wouldn't hold back contacting our leaders in Washington, D.C. as well if Greer reaffirms TERRI'S ILLEGAL DEATH WARRANT TOMORROW.

THE UNITED STATES SHOULD NOT BE EXTERMINATING DISABLED AMERICANS.

919 posted on 02/10/2005 3:39:06 PM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: windchime; AnimalLover; amdgmary
Excerpted from www.theempirejournal.com

... --“Terri’s family observed black and blue marks on her before the incident that plunged her into her current state. Medical records and/or experts have revealed that her neck injury was consistent with strangulation. A bone scan revealed multiple fractures occurring within 1-2 months before or after the incident, which has been described as equivalent to her being “hit by a mack truck”. Michael has given three different explanations of how he found Terri after the incident.

--“Michael has had Terri’s jewelry re-set into a ring for himself. Terri had two beloved cats that she adopted from an animal shelter, where they’d landed after being mistreated. When he moved in with his girlfriend, Cindy, he had Terri’s cats euthanized. Psychologically, this is symbolic of what he is trying to do now to Terri.

--“As a psychiatric expert witness, I have had experience performing psychiatric examinations of men like Michael Schiavo, and testifying in court about similar cases. The above is simply meant to illustrate some of the indications that Michael fits the profile of an abusive husband. He should most definitely be investigated as the perpetrator of the ‘incident’ that caused Terri’s collapse and her current condition. If Terri were to be allowed to die, as Michael has been desperately struggling to achieve for years, it could help him escape detection. This would be a grave miscarriage of justice.

http://hyscience.typepad.com/hyscience/2005/02/_2004_psychiatr.html

FV SAYS: This shrink-author put Michael in the same category as O.J., the "Prince of Darkness" type male.

920 posted on 02/10/2005 3:57:19 PM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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