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Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21
SierraTimes.com ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Nancy Levant

Posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer

Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21 Nancy Levant

I keep waiting, and waiting, and waiting for Bill O’Reilly or Shaun Hannity or Oprah Winfrey or somebody…..anybody, who has daily access to the multitudes, to say the words, “Agenda 21.” I’m still waiting, and for the life of me, I don’t understand the refusal to talk about the greatest threat to America that has ever existed. However, it dawns on me that wrapping a brain around Agenda 21 requires time, effort, interest, and a lot diligence. No one told me about Agenda 21. I found it by accident on the Internet. Then I went to the U.N.’s website and read Agenda 21. From there I went to Buenos Aires, The President’s Commission of Sustainable Development, my local sustainable development commissions and planners, to local visioning commissions, ecology conglomerates, and then back to the U.N.. After about six months of reading about a whole lot of global, national, and philanthropic organizations, I started documenting and keeping running lists because, I discovered, Agenda 21 was huge, highly developed, and a done deal. “How is it,” I asked myself, “that in 50 years, I never heard of any of this before? Where were my trusted newscasters? And why hasn’t my President, or the previous Presidents, ever talked about Agenda 21, the meetings in Buenos Aires, and Agenda 21’s connections to the World Trade Organization, World Bank, and a thousand other global organizations?”

So, I kept researching the Net. And lo and behold, I finally realized that Agenda 21 would never be publicized to Americans. It really can’t be.

As my running lists were now becoming encyclopedic, I also realized that there was no way to explain Agenda 21 easily. It’s too big, profoundly sophisticated, intentionally masked and hidden by corporate agendas and ecological ideologies that are, themselves, exploited by corporate agendas. But more than that, I realized that for Americans to understand Agenda 21, they would have to come to terms with a truth that, I fear, they won’t believe. What would that truth be? Let me try to say it in one sentence: Agenda 21 is the end of America.

As I read that sentence I think, “Well, Nancy, now everyone is going to think you are an extremist and no one will believe anything you say from now on. Everyone knows there can be no end to America….”

But unfortunately, my dear Americans, there can be an end to America, for America is a way of life. The place on Earth - where we are – the beautiful and bountiful lands between Canada and Mexico, might retain the name of “The United States of America,” but I’m not even sure that that is a given. If you believe even half of Agenda 21 and it’s dealings with the World Trade Organization, The World Bank, The President’s Commission on Sustainable Development, The Commission on Global Governance, The World Conference on Global Governance, The Millennium Project, The Court of Criminal Justice, The Nature Conservancy, The World Summit on Sustainable Development, Smart Growth, AND the “visioning” training and manipulation of American people, then you realize what has happened right under our noses over the past 35 years and without one national personality ever mentioning Agenda 21.

So, let me offer a list of website addresses to help readers research for themselves. I suggest you take notes and collect new website addresses. I believe that, as Americans, we owe it to our history and our sense of ourselves, to do the following:

· Read Agenda 21. If you read the other information via the web addresses in this article, you will wrap your brain around Agenda 21. It’s unbelievable and it’s dastardly, because not one politician or national media outlet has had the guts to tell us what was being taken from us.

· Pass your knowledge on to others. Don’t stew and be paralyzed. Take your knowledge to churches, civic organizations, and any other groups or individuals you can, and resolve yourselves to spread the news. Have an Anti-Agenda 21 Parade or Day to draw attention to the cause. Without fail, it’s the most important thing you will ever do in your lives as patriotic people. Write to your representatives and tell them you know what they have hidden, and that their manipulations of American citizens are shameful. Do it.

· Try so very hard to home school your children. Public schools are governmental institutions embroiled in Agenda 21 and its plans for the United States and our children. As you read and study Agenda 21, you will see it alive, well, and operating most obviously in the public schools. You will also see it clearly in the newest communities in all states across the country. Agenda 21 is everywhere, and it wants your children’s intellects and value systems as well as your land and land rights.

· Finally, teach your children about Agenda 21, what it is, and what it is doing to their country. Children have unique wisdoms at every age. Teach them truths so that they can faithfully and fearlessly speak truths. They must understand what is happening in their country. They cannot fight hidden and masked manipulations if they don’t understand how and where they operate.

Now is the time for Americans to help Americans. We cannot fight the loss of our rights unless we understand the game, and most Americans are totally unaware of what is happening to them and their communities. However, I do believe that the bulk of American people “sense” that something is amiss. Let’s commit to them, our children, and our futures. Let’s spread the news and make the media and politicians talk. They have counted on our stupidity, our silence, and our laziness. They have even counted on us not really caring.

We have to remember – it’s our government. It does not belong to politicians. They work for us. Unfortunately, they have not done that, and furthermore, they have advanced a worldwide mission without our knowledge, our votes, or even our opinions. So I say, one town at a time, here we come, and any elected official found to be complicit or a silent player in the Agenda 21 game needs to go.

Agenda 21 – Learn All About It

Basic Explanation of birth of Agenda 21 http://www.johannesburgsummit.org/html/basic_info/unced.html

Timeline of development of world governance and agenda 21 http://www.sovereignty.net/timeline.html

Key players of Millennium Project http://www.unmillenniumproject.org/documents/tf6interim.pdf

HABITAT II – U.N. Housing Requirements http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/hab2.html

Brainwashing/education http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/brainwashing.html

Global Governance – key international players http://www.sovereignty.net/p/gov/gganalysis.htm

Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Millennium Goals Project http://www.earthinstitute.columbia.edu/about/director/

Rocky Mountain Institute http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid61.php

Sustainable Development in the United States – natural resources goals: http://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/countr/usa/natur.htm

Henry Lamb http://www.sovereignty.net/p/sd/strong.html

The Sustainable Development Institute http://www.susdev.org/

American Policy Center – Tom DeWeese http://americanpolicy.org/ invasive species legislation: http://americanpolicy.org/prop/main.htm the Wildlands Project, Smart Growth Project http://americanpolicy.org/un/darkside.htm

American Farmland Trust & the Nature Conservancy & OSU http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/articles5/rustling_america_in_ohio.htm

Human Settlements – goals http://www.nlihc.org/mahn/habitat.htm ***Education for sustainability: An Agenda Action http://www.gcrio.org/edu/pcsd/toc.html United Nations dissolves USA Sovereignty http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a33916.htm Visioning Training-How To Re-Envision People and Communities www.hhh.umn.edu/centers/rlc/comm/outcome.htm People and their organizations and schemes: http://www.southern-style.com/conspiracy_of_the_left.htm How to force visioning upon the public as quoted from the United Nation’s Agenda 21 document: http://doncasey.home.mindspring.com/vision.htm World Summit on Sustainable Development http://www.minambiente.it/Sito/settori_azione/pia/docs/forum_chairman_summary.pdf


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To: rwfromkansas
The boogie man is coming to get me.

Yep, the term "Agenda 21" and the "U.N." involvement typically brings out that response. However, many of the components of this "agenda" are clearly taking place across the country.

251 posted on 02/04/2005 12:41:24 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: rwfromkansas
Don't scoff at what is a real threat to America.
It isn't just about the UN, they are but a spoke in the wheel. It is something much bigger and more wide spread than apparently you know.

Have you read any of the information that has been posted on this thread?

This is a tangible flesh and blood boogie man.

252 posted on 02/04/2005 12:42:40 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: 1Old Pro

I did that last night. This thread is a keeper.


253 posted on 02/04/2005 12:44:10 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Coleus

Is he still alive? I haven't heard a thing about him in ten years!
Fr. Malachi Martin,


254 posted on 02/04/2005 12:45:17 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: CyberAnt
"NO IT'S NOT .. who told you that! "

Hey, that's tellin' him! Ha ha! Great rebuttal.

255 posted on 02/04/2005 12:47:54 PM PST by subterfuge (Call him "Slick Willie"---he hates that. On second though, he's probably lying.)
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To: rwfromkansas

Why are you telling me?


256 posted on 02/04/2005 12:50:29 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: FreeReign

>>Treaties don't override the Constitution. But you and a bunch of liberals believe it does.<<

Yes they do by our voluntary signing of the treaty we forfiet the protections of the Constitution!


257 posted on 02/04/2005 12:51:40 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: rwfromkansas

I agree.

If Hillary manages to be president (somehow), and Bill is head of the UN - America is really doomed.

If people think that's far out .. just read Bill Sammon's book, AT ANY COST - HOW AL GORE TRIED TO STEAL THE ELECTION. Once you read that book .. there will be no doubt in your mind that the Clintons are willing to do anything to destroy what America is.

I will go so far as to suggest they would perpetrate an attack upon America (because they have already accused Bush of doing that) in order to declare martial law - suspend elections - confiscate weapons, etc. I know that's harsh .. but if Hillary is already castigating Bush for "overreaching, hubris and arrogance", you can be sure that is exactly what she would do.

However, at the rate of destruction the dems are perpetrating upon themselves .. they will not be in power for at least 40-50 years. I might be long gone by then so I won't care.


258 posted on 02/04/2005 12:52:48 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

wait a minute...let put on my fart bell cap, aw, ... thanks!


259 posted on 02/04/2005 12:53:26 PM PST by ken21 (most news today is either stupid or evil.)
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To: hedgetrimmer; A Balrog of Morgoth
"Do you really claim that?"

Hey hedge. If you notice, there are a lot of posters on the forum who are new, that seem to frequently deride those long time FReepers who are more inclined to look at the facts. I can't decide if they are leftist plants who are just here to disrupt and confuse, or if they are just naive and clueless.

Your observations are right on the money. I think there is a lot of subversion going on in this forum right now. Fortunately FReepers are armed with cogent reasoning and the truth.

Regards!

260 posted on 02/04/2005 12:55:14 PM PST by subterfuge (Call him "Slick Willie"---he hates that. On second though, he's probably lying.)
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To: rwfromkansas

What a brilliant analysis of the material on this post. Can I have your autograph, professor?


261 posted on 02/04/2005 12:55:43 PM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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To: FreeReign

independence

What does signing a treaty do if not place restrictions on our "independence" and "freedoms" to do as we wish?

Where do you think gun control comes from? Read the UN Charter before you continue.

http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/ch-cont.htm


262 posted on 02/04/2005 12:56:16 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: subterfuge
Your observations are right on the money. I think there is a lot of subversion going on in this forum right now. Fortunately FReepers are armed with cogent reasoning and the truth.

Nice self-parody.
263 posted on 02/04/2005 12:57:07 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: sergeantdave

Agenda has been going on for 50 years with basically nothing to show for it.


264 posted on 02/04/2005 12:59:16 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: CyberAnt
I might be long gone by then so I won't care.>

Anyone with children or grandchildren, or even the hope of having them should repudiate the UN, Agenda 21 and all its global socialist tentacles. Because even if you're gone, the legacy you will be leaving will devastate what was once the most free and most blessed country on earth.

I for one want to leave our progeny with something better than life under the jackboot of worldwide centrally managed socialism.
265 posted on 02/04/2005 1:01:27 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

How you doing, hedgetrimmer. Here's a court decision from your neck of the woods that people might be interested in -




Should government ever take natural resources from private property, landowners now have ammunition to demand payment.

In this precedent-setting case, the Court of Federal Claims ruled that four California water districts must pay $16.7 million to farmers for water the government took for fish.

The case arose after the federal government withheld billions of gallons of water from California farmers and diverted it to protect winter-run chinook salmon between 1992 and 1994.

Senior Judge John Wiese ruled in December 2003 that the government’s halting of water constituted a “taking” or intrusion on the farmers’ private property rights. This latest ruling set the price for that taking. The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution prohibits the government from taking private property without fair payment.

So-called “environmentalists” are steamed because now taxpayers will get a bill every time private property is taken for their questionable pet projects. In other words, property theft now comes at a price, as it should.


266 posted on 02/04/2005 1:02:54 PM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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To: subterfuge
I'm fairly new..I agree with hedgetrimmer.

It appears something has been afoot for 30 years or so and a few of us are just hearing about it.

267 posted on 02/04/2005 1:04:14 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: toledocon; hedgetrimmer
"seriously people dont sink to the DU's level with ridiculous black helicopter style stories"-toledodon

Here is another one. Signed up in November.

268 posted on 02/04/2005 1:08:17 PM PST by subterfuge (Call him "Slick Willie"---he hates that. On second though, he's probably lying.)
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To: rwfromkansas

You need to keep reading, Sir.


269 posted on 02/04/2005 1:08:32 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
I'll be saying to my local militia leader: "Locked and loaded and ready for combat, SIR..."

Stock up on your ammo, now! I don't believe black helicopter crap like this, but there's absolutely no reason to discredit it. Every movie I can think of that falls in the future shows a "Unified Earth Initiative" type government.

Also, isn't there a UN mandate on the docket this year for a worldwide ban on small arms? What happened to the Constitution of the United States? Thank GOD for W!

270 posted on 02/04/2005 1:09:24 PM PST by rarestia
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To: B4Ranch

Have you even asked yourself why presummably sane Americans would elect federal representatives who are members of the DEMOCRAT SOCIALIST (formerly COMMUNIST) PARTY ..??

I guess that might explain why agreements are made with organizations which support Communism and Socialism.

That answers (a) (b) and (c)
(d) they're communists or socialists - who lie for a living
(e) President Clinton has a DEMOCRAT COMMUNIST for a wife
(f) We are the RICHEST COUNTRY ON THE EARTH
(g) Since Senator McCain supported John Kerry - I would never call him a "patriot" - for America anyway. And .. President Bush DOESN'T WRITE LEGISLATION - THE CONGRESS DOES .. whine to them.
(h) The conservative movement in this country - proves that we are no longer walking in that direction. But .. everything cannot be undone overnight.

And .. I beg to differ with you .. we are NOT "dissolving our sovereignty" - not by a long shot.

I do not support the Law of the Sea Treaty - not at all. But the American public does not get to vote on this. If you want to rant and scream - you need to be sending this info to the people who will get to vote - the Congress!!


271 posted on 02/04/2005 1:10:02 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: rwfromkansas
NATURAL RESOURCE ASPECTS OF SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA



USDA Council on Sustainable Development Members

Sustainable Development Challenge Grant (SDCG) Projects from the EPA
272 posted on 02/04/2005 1:11:22 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: ken21

I am sure I am not interested at all in what kind of headgear you choose to wear.


273 posted on 02/04/2005 1:12:07 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Little Ray

You're correct .. and that's why it's so important that Hillary never be allowed to be president and Bill never be allowed to be Secy Genl of the UN.


274 posted on 02/04/2005 1:12:25 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
From the UN overview document:

A) Empowering communities

3.7. Sustainable development must be achieved at every level of society. Peoples' organizations, women's groups and non-governmental organizations are important sources of innovation and action at the local level and have a strong interest and proven ability to promote sustainable livelihoods. Governments, in cooperation with appropriate international and non-governmental organizations, should support a community-driven approach to sustainability, which would include, inter alia:

(a) Empowering women through full participation in decision-making;

(b) Respecting the cultural integrity and the rights of indigenous people and their communities;

OK, given that points (a) and (b) are in direct conflict with each other in most poor countries, just how does the author of this document expect these things to occur?

275 posted on 02/04/2005 1:12:31 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: CyberAnt

>>>I might be long gone by then so I won't care.<<

Your kids will certainly have fond memories of you, won't they>


276 posted on 02/04/2005 1:12:48 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: rarestia
Also, isn't there a UN mandate on the docket this year for a worldwide ban on small arms? What happened to the Constitution of the United States? Thank GOD for W!

UN pressed to adopt treaty on global gun tracing Arms control activists urged U.N. treaty writers on Monday to approve a system for tracking small arms sales around the world, saying it was easier to track lost airline luggage than a machine gun.

Amnesty International, Oxfam International and the International Action Network on Small Arms called for a legally binding global marking and tracing treaty covering small arms and ammunition at the start of a two-week U.N. conference weighing how to deal with the problem.

"A piece of lost luggage can be traced from San Francisco to Sierra Leone within hours, yet deadly weapons disappear without trace on a daily basis," said Jeremy Hobbs, the director of Oxfam International.

A report by the three groups found that while weapons and ammunition often carry serial numbers, there is no worldwide system to record the information and make it available worldwide.

Nor are arms brokers -- middlemen who arrange arms sales across borders, putting them beyond the reach of most national governments -- required to register and report on their dealings in most countries.

That renders serial numbers "useless as a tool to identify, locate and trace illegal arms shipments," the groups said.

A worldwide marking and tracing mechanism would help enforce arms embargoes and identify international brokers who violated national or international laws, ultimately saving lives, they said.
277 posted on 02/04/2005 1:15:15 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Ever see the show "Real TV"? It's a reality TV show. Leading off today, a dead-of-night drug raid in Britain where the bobbies found not even close to enough suspected pot and coke to fill a small hefty bag. Of course, the JBT's were proud and happy and boastful about busting up the front door, waste pipes, cabinetry and such, with his wife and baby in the middle of the maelstrom. Just in case you thought that was just a Janet Reno fetish.

Follow this up with some 'impartial' coverage of the heroic Greenpeace trying to interfere with a U.S. Navy exercise, as narrated by the whale-huggers themselves. Watch the fearless battlers for the environment against the mean old military and their water cannons.

Agenda? What agenda?

278 posted on 02/04/2005 1:16:27 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: rwfromkansas
Want to see an idiot

I'm sure you'll get along, idiots often agree with other idiots.

279 posted on 02/04/2005 1:16:35 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: sergeantdave

>>In this precedent-setting case, the Court of Federal Claims ruled that four California water districts must pay $16.7 million to farmers for water the government took for fish.<<

I'm confident the World Court would overturn that decision, given the chance.


280 posted on 02/04/2005 1:18:18 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch

Hmmmmm? They'll be with me ..!! For I gave them the real truth when they were children!


281 posted on 02/04/2005 1:19:10 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Bump for later.
282 posted on 02/04/2005 1:20:49 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Excuse me .. your holier than thou attitude is very condescending. When I said I would not be here - that's because I believe Christians will be gone when all this mess happens in America.

Why do I believe that. Because it's the prayers of the Christians that keep America on the right path. When the prayers of Christians are no longer supporting America - even you don't want to be here.

I don't intend to be here. I have made my choice.


283 posted on 02/04/2005 1:22:25 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: CyberAnt

President Bush DOESN'T WRITE LEGISLATION - THE CONGRESS DOES

True! But he does sign it, does he not?
Until he signs, is it law?
Not when I went school it wasn't.
Have there been changes?

If you want to rant and scream - you need to be sending this info to the people who will get to vote - the Congress!!

Apparently you don't follow my posts. I do send it and spend quite a bit of time on the phone with them.

Are you getting upset beccause you are beginning to see that our President is involved in this? No need to get upset, the last six Presidents have been working for it, just some harder than others.


284 posted on 02/04/2005 1:25:10 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: CyberAnt
When I said I would not be here - that's because I believe Christians will be gone when all this mess happens in America.

Now how would I know that about you, if you didn't say it?
285 posted on 02/04/2005 1:26:19 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Because I said it earlier on the thread!


286 posted on 02/04/2005 1:27:21 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: CyberAnt

>>And .. I beg to differ with you .. we are NOT "dissolving our sovereignty" - not by a long shot.<<

You explain to all of why we are NOT "dissolving our sovereignty" when we sign a treaty.


287 posted on 02/04/2005 1:27:35 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch
Most people don't realize that the WTO has assumed what was once the sovereign duty of Congress to regulate trade. Now instead of our elected representatives regulating trade, we have the WTO and their unelected tribunal.

Because the WTO is a subsidiary agency of the UN, and the WTO is committed to implementing sustainable development through trade treaties and agreements, I'd say this is yet another example of loss of individual and US sovereignty to a global body under control of the UN.
288 posted on 02/04/2005 1:30:51 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: CyberAnt

As a parent YOUR responsibility is to keep fighting, not sit on your butt and relax when the enemy is still at your door.


289 posted on 02/04/2005 1:32:13 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: pbrown; A Balrog of Morgoth
"I'm fairly new..I agree with hedgetrimmer. It appears something has been afoot for 30 years or so and a few of us are just hearing about it."

Hey pbrown. I was just commenting on what I see, which is that there are a LOT of new posters and so many of them are fringe-like. At least as FReepers they are. They all seem to want to roast Bush over immigration, think the U.N. is filled with fine upstanding "leaders," and that Islam is just misunderstood. They frequently posit that "hey, Hillary might not be so bad if she's tough on immigration," wink-wink.

Just look at how rabid this A Balrog of Morgoth guy is. He just absolutely sure the UN is a wonderful orgarnization.

290 posted on 02/04/2005 1:32:35 PM PST by subterfuge (Call him "Slick Willie"---he hates that. On second though, he's probably lying.)
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To: B4Ranch

LOLOLOL


291 posted on 02/04/2005 1:32:44 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: B4Ranch

No .. I'm getting upset apparently because your questions seem to imply that I'm responsible for the mess we're in .. or that I somehow have the responsibility for fixing the mess we're in.

I'm telling you .. if you're going to elect COMMUNISTS into your govt you have to expect you're going to get legislation which supports their point of view.

I don't help elect those types of people - and I actively work against their election. That's my part - and that's the best I can do. I call, I write letters (yes snail mail) to 18 of our senators and I basically told them off; I email. To seemingly hold me responsible for what these COMMUNISTS in the UN and the US govt are doing is just foolish.


292 posted on 02/04/2005 1:34:44 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Read Michael Crichton's State of Fear. It's an excellent, very readable book of fiction, based on the phoney science of the environment. It explains the fallacy and politicization of the environmental movement, how it's all a big power play. The story line is of course fiction but the facts (all footnoted) are real.
293 posted on 02/04/2005 1:36:13 PM PST by Eva
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To: B4Ranch

We'll be by to pick you up shortly. Please do not run, as we can track you via the bug implanted in your nasal cavity.


294 posted on 02/04/2005 1:37:02 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: CyberAnt

Have you heard of the LOST treaty that was defeated in the Reagan administration, defeated again last year? It is being brought up again pushed by senator Lugar. It includes a global tax efectively. Henry Lamb's last article quoted our new secretary of state wanting it passed and Bush has said he would like to see it passed.

You may want to stick your head in the sand while the UN trys to pass aglobal tax, but I for one won't.


295 posted on 02/04/2005 1:37:22 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: subterfuge
Hey pbrown. I was just commenting on what I see, which is that there are a LOT of new posters and so many of them are fringe-like. At least as FReepers they are. They all seem to want to roast Bush over immigration, think the U.N. is filled with fine upstanding "leaders," and that Islam is just misunderstood. They frequently posit that "hey, Hillary might not be so bad if she's tough on immigration," wink-wink. Gotcha. I love Bush. I hate and want to see the destruction of the UN. islam is not a religion, it is a cult of death. Those are my opinions

I don't agree with Bush on immigration. It is wrong.

296 posted on 02/04/2005 1:39:03 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: B4Ranch

Here you go insinuating that I'm not doing anything.

What do you know ..?? I take care of my mom who is 92 years old and suffers from demenia. The rest of the time, I go to school to learn a new trade because I need to have extra income. I'm writing a book. I run the San Diego Chapter of FR - although we're not really that active at the moment - but I'm sure we'll gear up as we get closer to 2006.

If you call that "sitting on my butt" and "relaxing" .. you're in la la land.


297 posted on 02/04/2005 1:40:06 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: Larry Lucido

I have seen maps where the sustainable development crew have divided the whole west coast into areas for humans and the rest to be returned to nature. The scope of their plans is stunning. They want you to eat mass produced foods (think Soylent Green) with little or no animal product and live in multi-family dwellings. In other words they want to herd the people and let the animals run free.


298 posted on 02/04/2005 1:42:11 PM PST by Eva
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To: B4Ranch

A treaty does not give up out sovereignty. I don't know where you get that from .. but you need to investigate that assumption.


299 posted on 02/04/2005 1:42:42 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: Junior

That was harsh.


300 posted on 02/04/2005 1:43:27 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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