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Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21
SierraTimes.com ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Nancy Levant

Posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer

Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21 Nancy Levant

I keep waiting, and waiting, and waiting for Bill O’Reilly or Shaun Hannity or Oprah Winfrey or somebody…..anybody, who has daily access to the multitudes, to say the words, “Agenda 21.” I’m still waiting, and for the life of me, I don’t understand the refusal to talk about the greatest threat to America that has ever existed. However, it dawns on me that wrapping a brain around Agenda 21 requires time, effort, interest, and a lot diligence. No one told me about Agenda 21. I found it by accident on the Internet. Then I went to the U.N.’s website and read Agenda 21. From there I went to Buenos Aires, The President’s Commission of Sustainable Development, my local sustainable development commissions and planners, to local visioning commissions, ecology conglomerates, and then back to the U.N.. After about six months of reading about a whole lot of global, national, and philanthropic organizations, I started documenting and keeping running lists because, I discovered, Agenda 21 was huge, highly developed, and a done deal. “How is it,” I asked myself, “that in 50 years, I never heard of any of this before? Where were my trusted newscasters? And why hasn’t my President, or the previous Presidents, ever talked about Agenda 21, the meetings in Buenos Aires, and Agenda 21’s connections to the World Trade Organization, World Bank, and a thousand other global organizations?”

So, I kept researching the Net. And lo and behold, I finally realized that Agenda 21 would never be publicized to Americans. It really can’t be.

As my running lists were now becoming encyclopedic, I also realized that there was no way to explain Agenda 21 easily. It’s too big, profoundly sophisticated, intentionally masked and hidden by corporate agendas and ecological ideologies that are, themselves, exploited by corporate agendas. But more than that, I realized that for Americans to understand Agenda 21, they would have to come to terms with a truth that, I fear, they won’t believe. What would that truth be? Let me try to say it in one sentence: Agenda 21 is the end of America.

As I read that sentence I think, “Well, Nancy, now everyone is going to think you are an extremist and no one will believe anything you say from now on. Everyone knows there can be no end to America….”

But unfortunately, my dear Americans, there can be an end to America, for America is a way of life. The place on Earth - where we are – the beautiful and bountiful lands between Canada and Mexico, might retain the name of “The United States of America,” but I’m not even sure that that is a given. If you believe even half of Agenda 21 and it’s dealings with the World Trade Organization, The World Bank, The President’s Commission on Sustainable Development, The Commission on Global Governance, The World Conference on Global Governance, The Millennium Project, The Court of Criminal Justice, The Nature Conservancy, The World Summit on Sustainable Development, Smart Growth, AND the “visioning” training and manipulation of American people, then you realize what has happened right under our noses over the past 35 years and without one national personality ever mentioning Agenda 21.

So, let me offer a list of website addresses to help readers research for themselves. I suggest you take notes and collect new website addresses. I believe that, as Americans, we owe it to our history and our sense of ourselves, to do the following:

· Read Agenda 21. If you read the other information via the web addresses in this article, you will wrap your brain around Agenda 21. It’s unbelievable and it’s dastardly, because not one politician or national media outlet has had the guts to tell us what was being taken from us.

· Pass your knowledge on to others. Don’t stew and be paralyzed. Take your knowledge to churches, civic organizations, and any other groups or individuals you can, and resolve yourselves to spread the news. Have an Anti-Agenda 21 Parade or Day to draw attention to the cause. Without fail, it’s the most important thing you will ever do in your lives as patriotic people. Write to your representatives and tell them you know what they have hidden, and that their manipulations of American citizens are shameful. Do it.

· Try so very hard to home school your children. Public schools are governmental institutions embroiled in Agenda 21 and its plans for the United States and our children. As you read and study Agenda 21, you will see it alive, well, and operating most obviously in the public schools. You will also see it clearly in the newest communities in all states across the country. Agenda 21 is everywhere, and it wants your children’s intellects and value systems as well as your land and land rights.

· Finally, teach your children about Agenda 21, what it is, and what it is doing to their country. Children have unique wisdoms at every age. Teach them truths so that they can faithfully and fearlessly speak truths. They must understand what is happening in their country. They cannot fight hidden and masked manipulations if they don’t understand how and where they operate.

Now is the time for Americans to help Americans. We cannot fight the loss of our rights unless we understand the game, and most Americans are totally unaware of what is happening to them and their communities. However, I do believe that the bulk of American people “sense” that something is amiss. Let’s commit to them, our children, and our futures. Let’s spread the news and make the media and politicians talk. They have counted on our stupidity, our silence, and our laziness. They have even counted on us not really caring.

We have to remember – it’s our government. It does not belong to politicians. They work for us. Unfortunately, they have not done that, and furthermore, they have advanced a worldwide mission without our knowledge, our votes, or even our opinions. So I say, one town at a time, here we come, and any elected official found to be complicit or a silent player in the Agenda 21 game needs to go.

Agenda 21 – Learn All About It

Basic Explanation of birth of Agenda 21 http://www.johannesburgsummit.org/html/basic_info/unced.html

Timeline of development of world governance and agenda 21 http://www.sovereignty.net/timeline.html

Key players of Millennium Project http://www.unmillenniumproject.org/documents/tf6interim.pdf

HABITAT II – U.N. Housing Requirements http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/hab2.html

Brainwashing/education http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/brainwashing.html

Global Governance – key international players http://www.sovereignty.net/p/gov/gganalysis.htm

Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Millennium Goals Project http://www.earthinstitute.columbia.edu/about/director/

Rocky Mountain Institute http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid61.php

Sustainable Development in the United States – natural resources goals: http://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/countr/usa/natur.htm

Henry Lamb http://www.sovereignty.net/p/sd/strong.html

The Sustainable Development Institute http://www.susdev.org/

American Policy Center – Tom DeWeese http://americanpolicy.org/ invasive species legislation: http://americanpolicy.org/prop/main.htm the Wildlands Project, Smart Growth Project http://americanpolicy.org/un/darkside.htm

American Farmland Trust & the Nature Conservancy & OSU http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/articles5/rustling_america_in_ohio.htm

Human Settlements – goals http://www.nlihc.org/mahn/habitat.htm ***Education for sustainability: An Agenda Action http://www.gcrio.org/edu/pcsd/toc.html United Nations dissolves USA Sovereignty http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a33916.htm Visioning Training-How To Re-Envision People and Communities www.hhh.umn.edu/centers/rlc/comm/outcome.htm People and their organizations and schemes: http://www.southern-style.com/conspiracy_of_the_left.htm How to force visioning upon the public as quoted from the United Nation’s Agenda 21 document: http://doncasey.home.mindspring.com/vision.htm World Summit on Sustainable Development http://www.minambiente.it/Sito/settori_azione/pia/docs/forum_chairman_summary.pdf


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To: hedgetrimmer
If Congress signs an agreement that creates a supranational body to take over a constitutionally specified responsibility of Congress, does that hurt US sovereignty?

It would be unconstitutional if Congress passed such a law.

351 posted on 02/04/2005 4:18:11 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: hedgetrimmer
H.R. 3752 will establish a simple process of due process, and will reestablish the role of Congress where it should be in the first place, as the ultimate decision-maker who manages the lands of the United States and who should maintain sovereign control of the lands in the United States of America.

I cannot believe that this had to actually be said about who controls America....The UN.....or Americans.

That statement in and of itself should send shivers up and down Americans spines.

352 posted on 02/04/2005 4:19:32 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: FreeReign

Ever heard of GATT and the WTO?


353 posted on 02/04/2005 4:21:02 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: pbrown

Unfortunately the bill did not pass.


354 posted on 02/04/2005 4:21:29 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: pbrown

Sorry, I'm not familiar with L.O.S.T. Will have to read up on it. Thanks for the heads-up.


355 posted on 02/04/2005 4:23:20 PM PST by Purrcival (Be kind to me - I turn 50 on Sunday)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Ever heard of GATT and the WTO?

Ever hear that Congress passed the specifics GATT and WTO and the president signed the specifics of GATT and WTO into law?

Our sovereignty remains what it was.

356 posted on 02/04/2005 4:24:43 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Purrcival
You're welcome. It's here on this thread somewhere. Along with President Bush's approval.

I love that man, but this treaty is one of the worse things to come up the pike in quiet awhile.

357 posted on 02/04/2005 4:25:11 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Bump for book mark & later read


358 posted on 02/04/2005 4:25:39 PM PST by The SISU kid (You Don't tan in Washington State, you RUST...)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Just damn.......


359 posted on 02/04/2005 4:25:42 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown; hedgetrimmer
I cannot believe that this had to actually be said about who controls America....

HR3752 is redundant. See U.S. Constitution.

360 posted on 02/04/2005 4:26:38 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: hedgetrimmer
Unfortunately the bill did not pass.

The bill shouldn't pass. It restates what is already in the Constitution. It gives credence to liberals who think that our Constitution doesn't make us sovereign -- that our sovereignty has to be established in some cheap HR bill.

It makes an ass out of U.S. Constitution.

361 posted on 02/04/2005 4:30:33 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
I'm not being nasty so don't take this the wrong way but, have you ever heard of the word 'usurped'?

With enough supporting it, anything can be over turned.

Look how close we came to sKerry winning the election. We missed a bullet on that one. I'm sure with him at the helm, this Agenda 21 would have been sped up to light speed.

362 posted on 02/04/2005 4:31:34 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown; hedgetrimmer
I'm not being nasty so don't take this the wrong way but, have you ever heard of the word 'usurped'?

LOL! See my post #339. In that post I specifically reference hedgetrimmer's post #224.

Have you seen that post? What do you think my point was?

363 posted on 02/04/2005 4:40:40 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: pbrown; hedgetrimmer
I'm not being nasty so don't take this the wrong way but, have you ever heard of the word 'usurped'?

LOL! See my post #339. In that post I specifically reference hedgetrimmer's post #224.

Have you seen that post? What do you think my point was?

364 posted on 02/04/2005 4:41:29 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Your right to choose your vitamin, mineral and other supplements may end in June-August of this year (2005). After that U.S. supplements will be defined and controlled by the World Trade Organization (WTO) and the World Health Organization (WHO). The CODEX ALIMENTARIUS (Food Code) is setting the supplement standards for all countries in the WTO. They will be enforced by the WTO and will over ride U.S. laws. The U.S. President and Congress agreed to this take-over when the WTO Treaty was signed. Violations are punished by WTO trade sanctions. CODEX drastically restricts vitamins, minerals, herbs and other supplements. CODEX...

They will over ride U.S. laws.

This is on another thread.

But, like you said, they can't over ride US laws...right?

365 posted on 02/04/2005 4:43:52 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
But, like you said, they can't over ride US laws...right?

I never said the above. For starters the statement is too ambiguous.

Don't put words in my month.

BTW, the example of the treaty you give is unsourced, and is highly ambiguous.

366 posted on 02/04/2005 4:52:05 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
hedgetrimmer post #224:I believe in the supremacy of the US Constitution. However there are people in power who put treaty obligations over their duty to protect the Constitution and individual rights. hedgetrimmer post #235: Yes it dissovles our soveiegnty when our congress agrees to sign treaties like this. If you do something that violates one of these treaties, you can be held liable by international organizations. Is that not weakening our sovereignty?

How do these two statements clash? In #224 he says, there are people in power who put treaty obligations over their duty to protect the Constitution and individual rights.

post #224,it dissolves our soverenignty. I see no clash in those two statements. Show me where I am wrong.

367 posted on 02/04/2005 4:57:32 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: FreeReign
You are missing the point. The WTO will be making our laws...not Americans. Little by little our sovereignty is being whittled away. In small increments.

That is the aim according to Agency 21.

368 posted on 02/04/2005 5:01:41 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I first heard about Agenda 21 while watching that 'kook' Alex Jones. It was on cable access, this was in '96. Could we, like Jon Stewart, be wrong about this guy?


369 posted on 02/04/2005 5:02:42 PM PST by s2baccha
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To: FreeReign
WASHINGTON, Feb. 2, 2005– The Office of the Acting Under Secretary for Food Safety, U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Food and Drug Administration of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, today announced a public meeting to provide information and receive comments on agenda items that will be discussed at the 26th Session of the Codex Committee on Methods of Analysis and Sampling in Budapest, Hungary, April 4 - 8, 2005. The public meeting will be held from 10:30 a.m. to 12 p.m., Tuesday, March 15, Conference Room 1A002 of the Harvey W. Wiley Federal Building, 5100 Paint Branch Parkway, College Park, MD. Agenda items for the meeting can be found at http://www.codexalimentarius.net/current.asp. The Codex Committee on Methods of Analysis and Sampling (CCMAS) specifies reference methods of analysis and sampling and considers specific sampling and analysis problems. Codex was created in 1963 by two United Nations organizations, the Food and Agriculture Organization and the World Health Organization. Codex develops food standards, guidelines and codes of practice in order to protect the health of consumers, ensure fair trade practices in the food trade and promote coordination of food standards undertaken by international governmental and non-governmental organizations. For information concerning the public meeting or for a sign language interpreter, contact Dr. Gregory Diachenko, Director, Division of Chemistry Research and Environmental Review, Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, FDA, Harvey Wiley Federal Building, 5100 Paint Branch Parkway, College Park, MD, 20740, at (301) 436-1898 or by fax at (301) 436-2634.

How much you wanna bet it passes?

370 posted on 02/04/2005 5:09:45 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
post #224,it dissolves our soverenignty. I see no clash in those two statements. Show me where I am wrong.

Post one describes an illegal usurpation of the Constitution -- a realistic danger. The Constitution would still sovereign -- the supreme power.

Post two says that the Constitution isn't the supreme power. That it can dissolved by a simple vote of congress and a simple stroke of the presidential pen.

371 posted on 02/04/2005 5:15:03 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: pbrown
You are missing the point. The WTO will be making our laws...not Americans. Little by little our sovereignty is being whittled away. In small increments.

No you missed the point. The WTO can't constitutionally make our laws. If the WTO tries to make our laws and if any branch of our government goes along with such, then it is our own government that usurpts the U.S. Constitution.

That is the aim according to Agency 21.

I know what is the aim of Agency 21. However, the UN has no sovereign power here. Only a branch of our own government can usurpt our constitution.

372 posted on 02/04/2005 5:22:18 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: hedgetrimmer; Carry_Okie; Coleus; Ms. AntiFeminazi; countrydummy; hellinahandcart; Lil'freeper; ...

I see from the keywords that some FReepers are like dinosaurs.

They have small brains and refuse to learn.


373 posted on 02/04/2005 6:17:55 PM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
I've read Agenda 21.

Have you?

374 posted on 02/04/2005 6:18:38 PM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: FreeReign
Sorry for the delay.

I see your point.

375 posted on 02/04/2005 6:19:14 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: farmfriend

And I will be happy to join you in that effort.

I'd appreciate it if we could get someone decent to run in next spring though. I don't want him to serve a full term after this cut-down version.


D1


376 posted on 02/04/2005 6:26:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

You really need to get an effin' clue.


377 posted on 02/04/2005 6:28:06 PM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Freedom4US

Correct. That is the definition of fascism as an economic system.


378 posted on 02/04/2005 6:33:38 PM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: NRA2BFree

Hi NRA2BFree. I have always hated the UN. The UN has proven be untrustworthy (Oil for Food) and even hostile (various massacres in Africa and having Hamas members on its Payroll willingly) in the past and no doubt they will continue their evil, dictator-coddling ways. I do not trust them one bit for ANYTHING. What protects us right now is the 2nd Amendment, but the UN has sympathizers here (leftists) trying to eat away at our rights. My state's capital has on the table a bill to ban all firearms from Olympyia, and designates certain areas where no one (not even CCW permit holders) can carry. San Francisco is proposing a similar ban. We are lucky to have president Bush. While he is way too soft on immigration issues, only him kept us out of the ICC, Kyoto and other damaging treaties, both meant to undermine us economically and politically.


379 posted on 02/04/2005 6:50:34 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: CyberAnt

The Bible says, "Come. Let us reason together."

Pay attention to what has been offered here in the way of information and do your homework.

God does not say to turn our brains off just because we are Christians.


380 posted on 02/04/2005 7:00:32 PM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: pbrown
Subjects like the one we are discussing will be prohibited.

Then we need to discuss it more. Not only for the sake of defiance but to get more people to learn about it. Even I have not heard of A-21 until this thread.

381 posted on 02/04/2005 7:07:32 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: Paul_Denton
We're trying to keep this thread bumped so more people will know about A-21( i like your abbreviation). Until last night I had never heard of it either.

Things have been coming together for me since hearing about it I must say.

Citizens homes and properties being seized for the better of the community...sounds like either socialism or fascism to me.

382 posted on 02/04/2005 7:14:54 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: struggle

"If anything crazy happens, the Freepers will have enough firepower and will to secure one part of America."

Let me know when the locale of Freeperville is disclosed.


383 posted on 02/04/2005 7:18:30 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: Domestic Church
Freeperville

Catchy name.

384 posted on 02/04/2005 7:25:28 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: sauropod; hedgetrimmer

I've been around Free Republic for what..over 6 years. One of the first times someone jumped me and started with the insults was when I was talking about the UN biosphere/Agenda 21 "ideas".
One can't get away with calling an illegal alien, well, an illegal alien these days, much less denegrating the international trading cabal that is very intent on supporting the UN. Some people have vested interests in it all. Same reason neither party is really going to get the UN for it's current dirty dealing. They're all the same people.

It's been 14 years since the first public display condemning the UN which I was involved in. You should have heard what they called us then. Nothing changes overnight. People may wake up. We can hope. It shouldn't have to make your gut hurt and your headache just to discuss a subject.



385 posted on 02/04/2005 7:25:53 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: sauropod

Well .. thank you for that lecture.

I thought you called for "reason together" - that's not the way to start the conversation.


386 posted on 02/04/2005 7:34:34 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: AuntB

You are very brave. Thanks for the work you have done on this issues in the past. Let's keep working together to repudiate the United Nations and Agenda 21 in the eyes of the American people. Then we shall be able to wipe it off our law books and drive its unAmerican ideology out of our country.


387 posted on 02/04/2005 7:35:00 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: pbrown

I agree. I just wonder what it will take to stop it.


388 posted on 02/04/2005 7:42:13 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: Paul_Denton

Read post # 165.....that's where we start. It's what I intend to do.


389 posted on 02/04/2005 7:51:48 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

The government is following a lot of UN dictates right now, through bureaucracy whether we approve the treaties or not. Its been happening very slowly for a long time but it has always been moving forward.


390 posted on 02/04/2005 7:54:33 PM PST by GeronL (2-7-72 is my birthday, in lieu of gifts, just send me cash)
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To: Purrcival

Yes. They are patient and they know the US is a tough one, its the only roadblock in their way really. The plans are being implemented in the US through the bureaucracy, sometimes whether the politicians approve of it or not.


391 posted on 02/04/2005 7:55:39 PM PST by GeronL (2-7-72 is my birthday, in lieu of gifts, just send me cash)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...

Personal prerogative ping.

Everybody needs to read this.


392 posted on 02/04/2005 7:56:05 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A woman needs abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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To: CyberAnt

The US has been implementing a lot of UN dictates through the bureaucracy, especially under Clinton, whether the Congress approved the UN treaties or not.


393 posted on 02/04/2005 7:56:34 PM PST by GeronL (2-7-72 is my birthday, in lieu of gifts, just send me cash)
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To: B4Ranch

I'd pay to see that.:<)


394 posted on 02/04/2005 7:59:31 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: GeronL

I agree. The UN has been very organised for years and have patiently pushed this agenda. Actually, the title of this thread says it all. "Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21".

Had the people known about the Liberty Bell in the 1960s or 1970s, I doubt this would have ever come to pass. The country was much more conservative then.


395 posted on 02/04/2005 8:03:07 PM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: GeronL

Yes, I'm aware Clinton was in favor of most things done by the UN. But .. in both Clinton's wars - CLINTON NEVER GOT THE APPROVAL OF THE UN FOR EITHER ONE!!


396 posted on 02/04/2005 8:08:08 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: pbrown

If...a big if...the Clintonistas come to power again and it looks like we're entering a Hilary dictatorship and exiting our beloved republic then we should have freeperville locales in all regions in which conservative folks could circle their wagons so to speak.


397 posted on 02/04/2005 8:17:11 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Paul_Denton

There are over 55,000 stories on .."The Law of the Sea Treaty". You need only read a few to see that this will be another step in taking away America's soverenignty. It will hand over to the UN wide sweeping powers concerning the US.


398 posted on 02/04/2005 8:20:08 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Domestic Church
We'll gather in Louisiana, it's a lot warmer this time of year...lol

If it gets too crowded, we'll mosey on over to Texas, lotsa room there.

399 posted on 02/04/2005 8:22:43 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: AuntB

Did you see B4 ranch's post #229?


400 posted on 02/04/2005 8:30:30 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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