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Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21
SierraTimes.com ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Nancy Levant

Posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer

Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21 Nancy Levant

I keep waiting, and waiting, and waiting for Bill O’Reilly or Shaun Hannity or Oprah Winfrey or somebody…..anybody, who has daily access to the multitudes, to say the words, “Agenda 21.” I’m still waiting, and for the life of me, I don’t understand the refusal to talk about the greatest threat to America that has ever existed. However, it dawns on me that wrapping a brain around Agenda 21 requires time, effort, interest, and a lot diligence. No one told me about Agenda 21. I found it by accident on the Internet. Then I went to the U.N.’s website and read Agenda 21. From there I went to Buenos Aires, The President’s Commission of Sustainable Development, my local sustainable development commissions and planners, to local visioning commissions, ecology conglomerates, and then back to the U.N.. After about six months of reading about a whole lot of global, national, and philanthropic organizations, I started documenting and keeping running lists because, I discovered, Agenda 21 was huge, highly developed, and a done deal. “How is it,” I asked myself, “that in 50 years, I never heard of any of this before? Where were my trusted newscasters? And why hasn’t my President, or the previous Presidents, ever talked about Agenda 21, the meetings in Buenos Aires, and Agenda 21’s connections to the World Trade Organization, World Bank, and a thousand other global organizations?”

So, I kept researching the Net. And lo and behold, I finally realized that Agenda 21 would never be publicized to Americans. It really can’t be.

As my running lists were now becoming encyclopedic, I also realized that there was no way to explain Agenda 21 easily. It’s too big, profoundly sophisticated, intentionally masked and hidden by corporate agendas and ecological ideologies that are, themselves, exploited by corporate agendas. But more than that, I realized that for Americans to understand Agenda 21, they would have to come to terms with a truth that, I fear, they won’t believe. What would that truth be? Let me try to say it in one sentence: Agenda 21 is the end of America.

As I read that sentence I think, “Well, Nancy, now everyone is going to think you are an extremist and no one will believe anything you say from now on. Everyone knows there can be no end to America….”

But unfortunately, my dear Americans, there can be an end to America, for America is a way of life. The place on Earth - where we are – the beautiful and bountiful lands between Canada and Mexico, might retain the name of “The United States of America,” but I’m not even sure that that is a given. If you believe even half of Agenda 21 and it’s dealings with the World Trade Organization, The World Bank, The President’s Commission on Sustainable Development, The Commission on Global Governance, The World Conference on Global Governance, The Millennium Project, The Court of Criminal Justice, The Nature Conservancy, The World Summit on Sustainable Development, Smart Growth, AND the “visioning” training and manipulation of American people, then you realize what has happened right under our noses over the past 35 years and without one national personality ever mentioning Agenda 21.

So, let me offer a list of website addresses to help readers research for themselves. I suggest you take notes and collect new website addresses. I believe that, as Americans, we owe it to our history and our sense of ourselves, to do the following:

· Read Agenda 21. If you read the other information via the web addresses in this article, you will wrap your brain around Agenda 21. It’s unbelievable and it’s dastardly, because not one politician or national media outlet has had the guts to tell us what was being taken from us.

· Pass your knowledge on to others. Don’t stew and be paralyzed. Take your knowledge to churches, civic organizations, and any other groups or individuals you can, and resolve yourselves to spread the news. Have an Anti-Agenda 21 Parade or Day to draw attention to the cause. Without fail, it’s the most important thing you will ever do in your lives as patriotic people. Write to your representatives and tell them you know what they have hidden, and that their manipulations of American citizens are shameful. Do it.

· Try so very hard to home school your children. Public schools are governmental institutions embroiled in Agenda 21 and its plans for the United States and our children. As you read and study Agenda 21, you will see it alive, well, and operating most obviously in the public schools. You will also see it clearly in the newest communities in all states across the country. Agenda 21 is everywhere, and it wants your children’s intellects and value systems as well as your land and land rights.

· Finally, teach your children about Agenda 21, what it is, and what it is doing to their country. Children have unique wisdoms at every age. Teach them truths so that they can faithfully and fearlessly speak truths. They must understand what is happening in their country. They cannot fight hidden and masked manipulations if they don’t understand how and where they operate.

Now is the time for Americans to help Americans. We cannot fight the loss of our rights unless we understand the game, and most Americans are totally unaware of what is happening to them and their communities. However, I do believe that the bulk of American people “sense” that something is amiss. Let’s commit to them, our children, and our futures. Let’s spread the news and make the media and politicians talk. They have counted on our stupidity, our silence, and our laziness. They have even counted on us not really caring.

We have to remember – it’s our government. It does not belong to politicians. They work for us. Unfortunately, they have not done that, and furthermore, they have advanced a worldwide mission without our knowledge, our votes, or even our opinions. So I say, one town at a time, here we come, and any elected official found to be complicit or a silent player in the Agenda 21 game needs to go.

Agenda 21 – Learn All About It

Basic Explanation of birth of Agenda 21 http://www.johannesburgsummit.org/html/basic_info/unced.html

Timeline of development of world governance and agenda 21 http://www.sovereignty.net/timeline.html

Key players of Millennium Project http://www.unmillenniumproject.org/documents/tf6interim.pdf

HABITAT II – U.N. Housing Requirements http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/hab2.html

Brainwashing/education http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/brainwashing.html

Global Governance – key international players http://www.sovereignty.net/p/gov/gganalysis.htm

Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Millennium Goals Project http://www.earthinstitute.columbia.edu/about/director/

Rocky Mountain Institute http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid61.php

Sustainable Development in the United States – natural resources goals: http://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/countr/usa/natur.htm

Henry Lamb http://www.sovereignty.net/p/sd/strong.html

The Sustainable Development Institute http://www.susdev.org/

American Policy Center – Tom DeWeese http://americanpolicy.org/ invasive species legislation: http://americanpolicy.org/prop/main.htm the Wildlands Project, Smart Growth Project http://americanpolicy.org/un/darkside.htm

American Farmland Trust & the Nature Conservancy & OSU http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/articles5/rustling_america_in_ohio.htm

Human Settlements – goals http://www.nlihc.org/mahn/habitat.htm ***Education for sustainability: An Agenda Action http://www.gcrio.org/edu/pcsd/toc.html United Nations dissolves USA Sovereignty http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a33916.htm Visioning Training-How To Re-Envision People and Communities www.hhh.umn.edu/centers/rlc/comm/outcome.htm People and their organizations and schemes: http://www.southern-style.com/conspiracy_of_the_left.htm How to force visioning upon the public as quoted from the United Nation’s Agenda 21 document: http://doncasey.home.mindspring.com/vision.htm World Summit on Sustainable Development http://www.minambiente.it/Sito/settori_azione/pia/docs/forum_chairman_summary.pdf


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To: CyberAnt

I responded to the tone of your posts. They were not characteristic of an open mind.


451 posted on 02/05/2005 4:08:54 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: pbrown

's ok. He's suffering from a crainial-rectal inversion.


452 posted on 02/05/2005 4:17:36 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: FreeReign

Why don't you look at how the Desertification treaty got approved?


453 posted on 02/05/2005 4:24:59 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: pbrown

Correct. Go do a search on the Heinz Foundation and the Tides foundation.

JEffinK's wife is all over it.


454 posted on 02/05/2005 4:31:16 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Domestic Church; pbrown; hedgetrimmer; B4Ranch; AuntB

Here's a black helicopter scenario for ya.

What if Her Heinous becomes president and His Slickness has Annan's job?

Think about all this stuff in that context - as in likelihood that attempts would be made to impose all of it.

Think about how His Slickness did the roadless conservation area initiative (58 million acres - bigger than the state of Colorado) BY EXECUTIVE ORDER in the last few months of his "administration."


455 posted on 02/05/2005 4:39:08 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: pbrown

eco.freedom.org and sovereignty.net


456 posted on 02/05/2005 4:41:02 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: DoughtyOne

btt


457 posted on 02/05/2005 4:43:02 AM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: hedgetrimmer

Thanks for the post. Bumping for later read.


458 posted on 02/05/2005 4:44:07 AM PST by PGalt
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Frightening and predicted thousands of years ago in Bible prophecy.

That being the case, I have two questions:
1. Could we stop it? 2. Would you want to if you could?
459 posted on 02/05/2005 4:52:12 AM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Agenda 21 cannot be explained with a sound bite, which is what Americans require now. It has more tentacles than a centipede. It covers everything from environment to neighborhood associations to thought police to treaties which implement Agenda 21 such as the FTAA treaty.

When something is too hard for the average guy to comprehend they fall back on "conspiracy theory", but Agenda 21 is too dangerous to be blown off so lightly.
460 posted on 02/05/2005 5:09:21 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie

Correct. Understanding Agenda 21 requires an effort, ie, reading UN documents and cross referencing the principles and edicts to land-use plans pushed by federal bureaucrats and others.

In other words, some level of intelligence is needed to follow the thread. A number of people don't have the brain power to connect the dots and add two and two together. They are a lost cause. May as well give them a ball of string and let them play in a corner.

All the material to understand Agenda 21 is out there. But reading and comprehension is a lost art for some people. They'll read the back of a cereal box and puzzle over its meaning.

I can certainly understand skepticism when first meeting the Agenda 21 scheme. As I said, it takes effort to understand how the tentacles reach into our lives and identify the traitors pushing this UN fascism. Some people, however, will never be convinced. They're unfortunate and naive people pushed into smart growth gerbil apartment boxes thinking they're off to a holiday.

We've gone far too long along the road where unelected, unaccoutable bureaucrats are telling us how to live. It's time to push back. The free ride for these fascists is done.


461 posted on 02/05/2005 7:06:50 AM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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To: B4Ranch

"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas."

That could be the tagline of some people around here.


462 posted on 02/05/2005 8:03:12 AM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Mark!


463 posted on 02/05/2005 8:06:39 AM PST by KoRn
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To: Paul_Denton

The liberty committe has a free email blaster to send a protest to your senator about LOST.

All ya gotta do is type in your zip code, and your name and address.

http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/alert/?alertid=6868141&type=CO

http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/lost.htm


464 posted on 02/05/2005 8:09:36 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: AuntB
That could be the tagline of some people around here.

So true!
465 posted on 02/05/2005 8:12:32 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: sauropod

I would add:

http://www.discerningtoday.org/

http://www.freedom21santacruz.net

http://www.advancebulletin.net


466 posted on 02/05/2005 8:14:09 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: sauropod
Correct. Go do a search on the Heinz Foundation and the Tides foundation.

That's what terrified me when sKerry was running for pres, all her ties to the different groups that want American brought down.

I still get nervous thinking how close she came to being first lady. What a nightmare.

467 posted on 02/05/2005 8:19:26 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: sauropod
We touched on that last night. I could not even imagine the power those two would control. All their socialist dreams for our country would be unstoppable. The scenario is just mind-boggling.
468 posted on 02/05/2005 8:27:16 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Agenda 21 cannot be explained with a sound bite, which is what Americans require now.

No truer words spoken. However, this is exactly the reason I use the simple example of the Liberty Bell. It draws attention when I am having a conversation. I then go into a little simple rant about how this is our most "sacred" of national shrines, Declaration of Independence, yada,yada. Then I rant about this being under the control of the UN. Once something simple like this is established, you can go on to the land grabs.

469 posted on 02/05/2005 8:28:39 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Excellent post.

I hope that just ten percent of the readers bother to follow up and learn the facts for themselves.

Cheers.


470 posted on 02/05/2005 8:30:34 AM PST by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: sergeantdave
We've gone far too long along the road where unelected, unaccoutable bureaucrats are telling us how to live. It's time to push back. The free ride for these fascists is done.

Amen.

It almost blew me away when I heard that they control our 'Liberty Bell'.
There is a list on this thread of the things the UN controls in our country. Unbelievable.

471 posted on 02/05/2005 8:32:58 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: sauropod

Here's another:

http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=AdCampaign


472 posted on 02/05/2005 8:41:20 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
. Rousseau’s model of forced compliance has formed the basis of social and environmental laws in America since the 1970s. This is causing a hemorrhage in individ­ual liberties once taken for granted by all Americans, including property rights. Without private property, individuals are powerless to oppose any infringe­ment on their rights due to government control over the fruits of their labor. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the old Soviet Union, where all property belonged to the state. No one could speak out against the government for fear of their family being evicted, or their job taken away, by the local communist commissar.

We hear more and more each day of people who have had their homes and property stolen under the guise of 'Eminent Domain'. For the good of the community is what they espouse. What a load of crap.

473 posted on 02/05/2005 8:46:02 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: lodwick
I hope that just ten percent of the readers bother to follow up and learn the facts for themselves.

That's why this thread needs to stay bumped, so more people can see what is happening in this country.

474 posted on 02/05/2005 8:48:47 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: hedgetrimmer

What do you think the chances are that someone out there has explained Agenda 21 in simple, easy to understand terms????


475 posted on 02/05/2005 8:53:25 AM PST by Houmatt (America's own Holocaust: Abortion.)
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To: MissAmericanPie

I doubt that many are aware of it, but the generally swooned over U.N.I.C.E.F. actually submits educaton parameters for our nation's education system. Our dear education leaders implement too much of it. That's a big reason why our Education system is so far off the mark. Most of the major propaganda aspects of the education system, are a direct result of guidelines submitted to it by U.N.I.C.E.F. This is just one more reason why I dispise the U.N.

You are right about the tenticles thing. The U.N., the globalists (yes Johnny and Sally they ARE real), the NGOs, the rigged (read that unAmerican) treatings and trading pacts, are incidious.

Freedom loving, sovereignty devoted Americans should fight these things will every ouce of their energy.

If you're a Christian, you want no part of these things. They are as anti-Christ as it gets.


D1


476 posted on 02/05/2005 9:05:43 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: loboinok

I noticed you began on this thread at post #2 and last post was #337.
That is considerable interest for a thread you deem "farfetched".

Feel free to stop replying to me anytime.


477 posted on 02/05/2005 9:22:38 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: pbrown

Agree - I just saw it this morning, and wanted HT and others to know that we best wake up to the real agenda of the NWO, and that is to take America down.

Just look at the 30 million illegals living here in near total immunity, impunity, etc...bush is completely down with this crap, as is all the congress, save Paul, Tancredo, and now Shrillary.

Go figger.


478 posted on 02/05/2005 9:26:05 AM PST by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: DoughtyOne

Does your tag ever nail it, or what?


479 posted on 02/05/2005 9:27:38 AM PST by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: lodwick
This thread has reached a few of us who didn't know about Agenda 21 and all it's far reaching tentacles. I've been on the anti-L.O.S.T. campaign, which is but one more of the tentacles trying to strangle this country. Bush is down with that as well.

Agenda 21 is like an onion.
The first layer is freedom of religion rights, peel it away.
The second layer is gun rights, peel it away.
The third layer is freedom of speech rights, peel it away.
The fourth layer is property rights, peel it away

With each layer removed you get to the heart of the onion---Agenda 21.

480 posted on 02/05/2005 9:46:57 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: DoughtyOne

I remember watching C-Span when that white haired democrat from Germany presented for a vote our return to UNICEF before congress. It was a slap in our face for raising cain about the 58 million in past dues the U.N. was trying to stick us for, while ignoring what we have spent in the Balkins for their sake.

Regan got us out of that anti-American organization that squandered our money while promoting anti-Americanism, but they are "reformed" now, don't ya know. It took them no time at all to take over our education system.


481 posted on 02/05/2005 10:06:15 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: sergeantdave

Have to have some laws to stop it, evidently the Constitution isn't enough since it's become a living document.


482 posted on 02/05/2005 10:08:39 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: pbrown; Patriot; American; All
On a worldwide scale, the globalists have divided the planet into ten regions. The divisions may have changed from the map we’ve seen. North America – Canada and the U.S. – being Region 1; South America being Region 6. Given the present and ongoing Summit[s] of the Americas being held, it appears the ultimate plan is to unite the ‘Americas’ into one region... one nation, as in the European Union, with one currency. [See related links below for: Summit of the Americas and the Organization of American States]

Following is just a thumbnail sketch of how the plan is being implemented in America. Regional Governance is another layer of government. Picture in your mind a map of the United States of America. Then, picture ten federal regions... so instead of seeing the borders of the 48 contiguous states you see markings that have broken the U.S. up into ten federal regions. We’ve been quite effectively ruled under these ten federal regions since Nixon created them... by the stroke of a pen. (Just doing as he was told) Nixon then established ten mini-federal governments within the states, because each of the ten federal regions has a capitol, and all of the federal regional agencies have offices in the ten federal regional capitols.

When we hear the U.S. Congress talking about the ‘bloc grants’ that are being sent to the states be assured that the money does not go to the states. It goes to the regional agencies such as HUD, HEW, departments of Labor, Commerce, Education, etc, and to regional councils from there. The money is then doled back out to the local governments from which the money was taken in the first place... doled out in return for their compliance. No compliance, no money. We see that word a lot today, don’t we? Compliance. Passing whatever laws and ordinances the federal planners dictate. Those dictates emanate directly from the United Nations.

So, if in your minds eye you can see that map of the 48 contiguous states broken up into ten regions, then think of a little capitol building – a federal capitol building – ten of them planted throughout the country in each of the regional capitols. And that’s how the federal government did it. Richard Nixon claimed they were bringing government closer to the people. Yes... they did. They moved ten little Washington D.C.s right into the states. Nixon called it, "Power to the People".

Then, between 1968 and 1972 the Advisory Commission on Intergovernmental Relations (ACIR) urged and encouraged the states to hold constitutional conventions to change their state constitutions. When that happened a section was added in the Local Government Section of the constitutions... the "Intergovernmental Cooperation" section was added. That allows other "units" of government to be created. The "other units of government" are sub-state and multi-state and multi-national regions.
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Really make your head explode with the Regional Governance enacted by Nixon

483 posted on 02/05/2005 10:11:33 AM PST by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: lodwick
It appears that the only way this will be stopped is when enough politically active Americans realize that their complaints about federal usurpation of states rights are being directed to the wrong place. Usurpation can only occur when another entity acquiesces to the usurpation. That’s us, folks.

I sit here in disbelief, shaking my head, as example after example is laid out for me to see of how our country is being assimilated into the entity known as the UN.

It almost makes one throw their hands up in surrender at the nearly insurmountable problems facing us today.

The keywords here are, 'almost' and 'nearly'. It appears we are set on a collision course with who controls America, we who believe in our inalienable right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, or one world government controlled by our nemeses, the UN.

Who was it that said, "Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country" Was it Patrick Henry?

484 posted on 02/05/2005 10:43:21 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: lodwick; B4Ranch; Kay Ludlow; pbrown; farmfriend; sauropod; DoughtyOne; o_zarkman44; sport; All
This is such important information. Thank you for posting.

Now about regional government. I'm going to capitalize stuff for emphasis so please don't take it the wrong way---

PEOPLE WATCH OUT FOR YOUR COUNTIES. The county system, which existed before many territories becames states, will be WIPED OUT by the regional councils lodwick talks about in the previous post. Counties (or parishes in some states) were created as the way to bring constitutional government closest to the people and give the people the greatest control over elected officials and paid bureaucrats.

REGIONAL GOVERNMENT DESTROYS THE COUNTY SYSTEM. Unlike the mantra Gov.Schwazenegger in CA is chanting, streamlinng government and replacing counties with regional councils and bureacracies DESTROYS FREEDOM AND ACCOUNTIBLITY. IT DILUTES YOUR REPRESENTATION AND YOUR SAY IN GOVERNMENT.

Ultimately the destruction of the county will result in the destruction of our electoral system. ALL representation from local, state to federal government is based on the PRECINCT or WARD system which is set up BY COUNTY. IF COUNTIES GO AWAY, OUR ENTIRE ELECTORAL SYSTEM IS BUSTED TOO. The census which operates out of county precincts to determine how many representatives will be sent to Washington will get busted too.

The UN push for regionalism, bioregionalism, whatever kind of regionalism, is expressly designed to bust America into little globally controlled pieces. Be on the watch in your county, and see how many councils and regional governments and cooperatives your elected officials participate in. They probably don't know it, but by participating in, and giving these groups authority by their presence, your constitutionally elected representatives are putting themselves out of a job and taking away your Constitutional right to elected representation.
485 posted on 02/05/2005 10:56:33 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: sergeantdave; MissAmericanPie

See post #485


486 posted on 02/05/2005 10:57:27 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Thank you. Good point.


487 posted on 02/05/2005 11:05:55 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Thank you, it is important to us as well. It should be to all Americans.

Looks like I have a lot of phone calls and e-mails headed in the direction of my locally elected officials. However, I think Senator Mary Landrieu, is one of the enemy. I'll get no satisfaction from that cow.

488 posted on 02/05/2005 11:11:53 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: CyberAnt
kook conspiracy stuff

There can be no doubt that there are a lot of high-level folks world wide who do not share our values of free markets and free people.

Many of them can be found at the U.N. Many more can be found in teaching positions at schools from coast to coast.

They don't need a conspiracy to be enemies of freedom.

Agenda 21 codifies beliefs they already have, and goals they intend to pursue with or without leadership.

The U.N.'s incompetence is a great blessing. However, its goals for the world are no less odious for their failures in execution.
489 posted on 02/05/2005 11:17:51 AM PST by cgbg (Come die in Seattle--your vote will still count!)
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To: cgbg
The U.N.'s incompetence is a great blessing. However, its goals for the world are no less odious for their failures in execution.

Remember that saying, 'even a broke clock is right twice a day. The UN could get lucky and have only a stupid day instead of a moronic day.

490 posted on 02/05/2005 11:48:57 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Just did that. Thanks.


491 posted on 02/05/2005 12:04:26 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: deaconjim
That being the case, I have two questions: 1. Could we stop it? 2. Would you want to if you could? Nothing is impossible. It is HOW we can stop it. And I would galdly stop it if I knew what I as a small indivisual could do.
492 posted on 02/05/2005 12:06:39 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: lodwick
I hope that just ten percent of the readers bother to follow up and learn the facts for themselves.

Yeah. It is pretty draconian. I am going to tell my friends about it and help them do research into it. This has to get out. This could not come at a worse time when my state is planning to impose draconian gun laws, preventing not only the sale of "assault weapons" but the mere possession of them. The same goes for .50 caliber rifles and even CCW holders will lose their rights if this passes.

493 posted on 02/05/2005 12:12:39 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: pbrown
That's why this thread needs to stay bumped, so more people can see what is happening in this country.

Does this forum have a "pinned" or "sticky" function to keep it permanently on top?

494 posted on 02/05/2005 12:13:25 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: Paul_Denton
Does this forum have a "pinned" or "sticky" function to keep it permanently on top?

I don't know what that is.

495 posted on 02/05/2005 12:19:29 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
The keywords here are, 'almost' and 'nearly'. It appears we are set on a collision course with who controls America, we who believe in our inalienable right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, or one world government controlled by our nemeses, the UN.

Very sad indeed. If we cannot repell the U.N.'s insurrection politically (too many politicans here synmpathize with the U.N) that that leaves only one other option.

496 posted on 02/05/2005 12:26:14 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: pbrown
I don't know what that is.

Some forums have the ability to keep certain threads on top of all the others. That way everyone (member and non-member) will see it. I used to run a sci-fi forum that had that functionality.

497 posted on 02/05/2005 12:29:20 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: Paul_Denton
Me and my family know what that option is. The one that cannot be said out loud. We are great believers in the 2nd amendment.
498 posted on 02/05/2005 12:35:03 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: DoughtyOne
"They're happily networking with communities across our nation to 'preserve animal and plantlife'."

I'm all for preserving animal and plantlife.....in the freezer.

499 posted on 02/05/2005 12:36:37 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Paul_Denton

I haven't heard that mentioned on here before. I guess they don't. It sure would be nice though if they did.


500 posted on 02/05/2005 12:36:40 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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